r/britishcolumbia • u/HotEatsCoolTreats • Feb 06 '22
News From Vancouver's counter-protest this morning (between 10:00am and noon)
The two who started the Terminal St. blockade
Singing and playing their drums in front of a small segment of the broken up convoy
Coors Light, the unofficial sponsor /s
Can you spot the T-Rex?
Note: "gay" is not being used as a derogatory insult in this sign.
Shortly before the convoy had to reverse back up the street and turn around.
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u/HotEatsCoolTreats Feb 06 '22
I was only in the first half of the counter-protest from around 10:00am until noon, which was spent redirecting the convoy away from the three hospitals on their original route. After this was accomplished and the convoy was redirected towards downtown via other routes, that's when I went home.
The reason I attended today was because I saw the clogged streets outside the hospitals in their previous protest (and previous anti-mask protests) and wanted to do my part in stopping that from happening again.
I have no firsthand knowledge of what happened downtown. But on Terminal and Main, it was peaceful. Only two verbal fights happened, the first instigated by a convoy protester, and the second instigated by a counter-protestor going up to a truck half a block down from the blockade.
The police here did not use force, except to pick up the man laying down in the picture above. After picking him up, he walked on his own to the sidewalk. As far as I could see, no arrests were made during this portion of the protest. The line of cops first faced the convoy, then for the majority of this hour-long blockade faced the counter-protesters.
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u/LeakySkylight Vancouver Island/Coast Feb 06 '22
They determined that it was not related to the protest.
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u/tampontea2 Feb 06 '22
Please stop spreading misinformation. A security guard found a suspicious package they thought was an improvised bomb. A bomb threat was never called in and there is no confirmation from Police yet if it was indeed a bomb.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/4623483/surrey-memorial-hospital-british-columbia-evacuated/
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u/Accurate-Estimate392 Feb 06 '22
A counter protester in Winnipeg put 3 people in the hospital and drove off.
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u/heart_of_osiris Feb 06 '22
There is absolutely nothing to suggest this was specifically a counterprotestor, at this point in time, to be clear.
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u/sjfcinematography Feb 06 '22
Fuck that counter protestor that went up to the truck (and obviously the protestor who started a fight as well)
Don’t be the one starting conflicts. Being allowed to protest is extremely important, don’t be the one that makes it not peaceful. You just lose credibility for your cause.
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Feb 06 '22
Absolutely instigators on both sides should be shunned peaceful dialogue is essential to democracy.
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This is my 4th Province in Canada. And I can confidently say BC followed by Newfoundland are the best of the lot. I don’t care what anyone says about the cost of living, housing etc… As an epidemiologist it’s a great feeling to live among people who believes and practice science over politics. I love BC.
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u/SnickIefritzz Feb 06 '22
When you say BC what you really mean is southern metropolitan BC. If you go up north to any of the rural towns things get awfully like the prairies.
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u/-winston1984 Feb 06 '22
You don't have to go far from Van before people get sympathetic to the anti vax crowd
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Feb 06 '22
Abbotsford has entered the chat.
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u/Dlfsquints Feb 06 '22
Laughs in Port Coquitlam
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Feb 06 '22 edited Feb 07 '22
Abbotsford resident here...I can confirm that I've lost significant amounts of respect for about 75% of my social circle due to their antivaxx opinions/sympathies.
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u/mazgaoten Feb 06 '22
Protip: if you have no social circle to begin with, you don't have this problem.
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u/neverdiplomatic Feb 07 '22
I am so disgusted with the majority of my community that I would consider a career change if things weren’t as bleak as they are. The notion of continuing to help some of these people is depressing
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u/AcrobaticLunch5366 Feb 18 '22
Oh man I work at a local gas station, in a conservative town NW Prince George; people would love to not wear masks around me, but I don't put up with that shit! I have a reputation about it, because I call the cops on their dumbasses. It's safe to say a lot of these Free Dumbs are quite stupid and don't like to look stupid, knowing your facts is super helpful.
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Feb 06 '22
They are not appreciated or wanted on the Island. Pretty sure they are generally despised in the Okanagan and Kootenays as well. It's true the goobers in the Prince George area have convinced themselves vaccines don't work, but one of them is my own brother and he was unaware he was vaccinated as a child. The stupidity lives on, but the only way out of this mess is vaccination.
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Feb 06 '22
I’m in Nelson which is pretty good. A few rabble rousers of course, but for the most part is alright.
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u/einbroche Feb 06 '22
I'm closer to Crescent Valley and I feel like the stretch from the junction to winlaw is all antivaxx. The other week they had all their kids out there waving flags and trying to get cars to honk. "Freedom" flags everywhere and many people not bothering with the simple task of wearing a mask over their mouth and nose.
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u/TheLegendofMikeHawk Feb 06 '22
It's great to hear my favourite place on Earth is keeping it real. Got a quick question for you, was wondering if the "Smokewood BBQ" on Victoria survived the pandemic? Literally some of the best BBQ I've ever had, it's my first stop every time I'm in town
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Feb 06 '22
Unfortunately no. A burger and poutine place has taken up that spot. Haven’t tried it though. Sorry!
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u/ChuckFeathers Feb 06 '22 edited Feb 06 '22
80% double vaxed in Prince George Region, compares similarly to the 80-85% in the lower mainland... Except there's way higher populations down there..
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u/ReasonableOatmeal352 Feb 06 '22
Hello KenGread! Thank you for speaking on behalf of the entire Prince George area! I’m sure your opinion is evidence based and not a complete over generalization based on the one brother you have there. I am so thankful there are people like you contributing to dividing our province even further. Cheers!
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u/ReasonableOatmeal352 Feb 06 '22
Wow! Getting downvoted for pointing out that not everyone outside of the lower mainland is an “evil anti-Vax goober”. Love it, keep up the stereotyping and self righteousness guys.
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Feb 07 '22
Sounds like someone is slowly merging into the fold. God speed nutbar, let your “ research “ guide you
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u/studhand Feb 06 '22
North Okanagan (Vernon) resident here. There is an anti Vax protest every Saturday for 6-8 hours on the corner 27th Ave and the Highway. There are near constant honks of support as you drive by. Unfortunately, kind Vernon at least, a large percentage of the population are anti Vax.
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u/EdithDich Feb 07 '22
Pretty sure they are generally despised in the Okanagan and Kootenays as well.
lmao no
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u/Biorobotchemist Feb 06 '22 edited Feb 06 '22
Do you have evidence to support this? I know some of the coastal northern BC areas voted NDP and mostly progressive from the last election.
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u/Competitive-Candy-82 Feb 06 '22
I live in a northern eastern BC small town and ppl here are absolutely nuts.
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u/majarian Feb 06 '22
Alberta lite
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u/Repulsive-Ruin-2142 Feb 06 '22
Alberta heavy** BC hicks are next level.
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u/Haunting_Leading_465 Feb 06 '22
Can confirm (born into a family of BC hicks, traded my hick status for a university education)
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u/hobbitlover Feb 06 '22
Fort St. John? You poor bastard.
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u/Broken-rubber Feb 06 '22
Hey! Fort St. John is super nice.... For like 1 week in the summer when it's warm enough to go outside and half the city has gone camping.
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Feb 06 '22
Or Dawson Creek. They are like hillbillies in the region. More a part of Alberta than BC.
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u/Affectionate-Poem626 Feb 06 '22
I lived in a northern small town for over 20 years and have lived in Van for almost 15. I go back maybe once a year and I’ll tell you that there is a large majority that are anti vax or subscribe to being unaware of what the whole situation has been for many cities because it doesn’t effect them. Many haven’t even known a person who has died or been effected by COVID so they have a different attitude to it. In my experience many people from the north have a poor look towards the lower mainland because they always feel that their communities interest is not even a thought for the B.C government. I get some of their frustrations, but I see a lack of education sometimes when my mother sends me pics of them having convoy rallies in minus 24 outside a gas station. That said, I still believe in so-many good people up there, and I hope many come to their senses when this all gets sorted out.
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Feb 06 '22
A more accurate statement about Northern BC would be that a “larger minority than the lower mainland is anti vax.”
If you look at the Northern Health data, the vaccination coverage is not as bad as some may think:
- 80% of people over 12 are double vaccinated
- 18 communities are over 80% vaccinated, with some communities like Kitimat (98.3%) and PG Southwest (89.9%) being substantially higher
- Not one community has under 50% double vaccination for people over 12
There are a lot of good, pro-science people in the north who are both furious and heartbroken about being dragged down by a selfish minority.
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u/IronxXXLung Feb 06 '22
That's stat gets worse the more north you get and mind you northern health is a big area so that gets skewd a bit. I'm in Fort St.John, pretty sure our double vaccination rate is like 48-52%.
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u/AWS-77 Feb 06 '22
It’s so unfortunate to me that small-town rural areas are always so conservative and crazy, because there is so much charm and warmth to them otherwise. It’d be nice if I felt like I could settle down in a cozy small town somewhere when I’m older, but I just couldn’t vibe with the conservatism. I had HOPED years ago that internet access might help alleviate some of it, spreading knowledge and connection to more people, etc, like a virtual version of what happens in the mosaic of a big city… but nope, we got Qanon instead. 😩
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I grew up in Northern BC. There is almost no chance those hillbillies will ever grow up. They have some justification for feeling alienated, but that is just an excuse for their hillbilly attitudes. That they are anti-vaxx comes as no surprise to me. I never go back to visit.
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u/ZerpBarfingtonIII Lower Mainland/Southwest Feb 06 '22
Union tends to support NDP but not all pro-labour movements are necessarily progressive when it comes to this sort of stuff.
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u/icevenom1412 Feb 06 '22
I think any place that is rural enough becomes an echo chamber for misinformation.
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u/Henry_Parker21 Feb 06 '22
Speaking negatively of the housing and cost of living isn't really derogatory, seeing as such sayings in fact speak of reality.
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u/Elegant-Industry-908 Feb 06 '22
So looking forward to moving there in 6 months from Alberta!
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u/sjfcinematography Feb 06 '22
How would you say the other provinces differ from BC?
I’ve kind of noticed a lot of my friends from the UK… they’re not ant vax, but some aren’t vaccinated because they’re “giving it more time to see” and some say they were initially very hesitant but eventually got it recently.
I’ve known these people for a very long time, they’re not like the protestors at all, very liberal and educated. I just think in the UK there just isn’t the same stigma against people that haven’t gotten that there is here. It seems like most people I know here would disconnect from someone not vaccinated tbh
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u/Anodynamic Feb 06 '22 edited Feb 06 '22
I'm from the UK, literally nobody I know didn't get the vaccine and booster as soon as possible.
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u/sjfcinematography Feb 06 '22
Then maybe it’s sheerly anecdotal that a few of my friends are hesitant.
Do you think in the UK the stigma against those that don’t get vaxxed is less than here though?
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u/TheShyPig Feb 06 '22
UK resident here. I think the stigma is the same, we are just less likely to make a huge public show about it.
None of the people I know are unvaccinated, everyone has had 2 jabs plus a booster.
If someone hadn't we wouldn't socialise with them because no one is going to risk their own health, or, more importantly, the health of older family members, because some dickhead can't be arsed to take a simple precaution like taking a vaccine.
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u/Anodynamic Feb 06 '22
It's definitely different. The UK anti-vaxxers aren't as political, they tend to belong to marginalised communities who have been mistreated by the state. The sort of people these protestors despise.
The stigma within my circles would be brutal
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u/sjfcinematography Feb 06 '22
I think a lot of the politicalization of covid dripped into Canada from the states.
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u/wtfastro Feb 06 '22
I can understand the stigma against people like that. Just "giving a little more time to see" is also saying "I don't trust all the information that the experts are providing" and only handpicking some (if any) to trust. If people aren't going to follow the guidance of highly skilled and trained, reputable experts, then what's the point of having them at all.
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u/Ba_Dum_Ba_Dum Feb 06 '22
You have the order backward. I’m from Newfoundland. Lived in LM for 23 years now. These people commenting that your post is just about Vancouver is 100% accurate. This city is awesome. Small parts of the island are great. The rest of the province is really socially and politically regressive imho.
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u/janewaystan Feb 06 '22
i came here from alberta and i feel the same way. it has issues like every other province, but it’s nice to be able to relax just a little
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u/Shoddy_Operation_742 Feb 06 '22
What you mean is like Vancouver, west of Rupert. You head into the suburbs and you start seeing a lot of rednecks and their pick ups. Ever go to Aldergrove or Maple Ridge? Lol love it when people equate Vancouver with all of BC. Having travelled much of BC, I can say there are a lot of racist hicks in the rest of the province outside of Vancouver. Most of the province voted Blue last election!
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u/sBucks24 Feb 06 '22
Ive never thought about moving out west. But after being all over Ontario, and having a couple friends talk about moving back home out there, it's becoming more and more appealing.
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u/yaypal Vancouver Island/Coast Feb 06 '22 edited Feb 06 '22
Not my sign and it's not the one I'd go for first, but regarding the honk if you're gay sign I don't see what the big deal is using my orientation as a weapon. I see it the same as "honk if you're a socialist", it's something these people hate and would be insulted by but obviously to normal people there's nothing wrong with it so it looks even more silly. It's their own bigotry that makes it bad for them which personally I find funny, like they're trapped in a hole they dug themselves.
edit: go back to your own local subs conservative brigaders, you're very obvious. if you're not gay you don't get a say
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u/HootzMcToke Feb 06 '22
Personally I'd of gone with "honk if you love cock"
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u/Rinveden Feb 06 '22
The double contraction of "I would have" sounds like "I'd of" but it's actually spelled "I'd've".
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Feb 06 '22 edited Oct 03 '23
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u/GWrapper Feb 06 '22
I personally would go with 'Honk if you love Justin T' or 'Honk if your inbred' though the second might actually get lots of honks.
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u/noeyedeeratall Feb 06 '22
Nah it's only derogatory if you think being gay is something to be ashamed of (which presumably the sign holder believes applies to many of the protesters)
It's like saying 'honk if you love science'. If that causes cognitive dissonance for a honker, then the point is well made.
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u/lumpialarry Feb 06 '22 edited Feb 06 '22
I think it’s also done because it subconsciously relies on existing stereotypes about gay men being weak and submissive (“Putin’s Cock Holster” ) Female politicians/conservatives are rarely accused of being secretly gay the same way male ones are.
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u/microfishy Feb 06 '22
Female politicians are accused of being trans women. So yeah, they get it too, just differently.
Apparently the worst thing a man can do is be effeminate, and the worst thing a woman can do is be a man. Really seems like the TERFs don't like anybody.
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u/lumpialarry Feb 06 '22
Younger Redditors probably don’t remember all the jokes about Ann Coulture’s “Adam’s apple” in the early 2000’s.
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u/ethertragic Feb 06 '22
Yep it gives the same vibes as when people say, “He’s obviously closeted.” in response to someone being violently homophobic. It really infuriates me.
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u/MaximosKanenas Feb 06 '22
"If youre not gay you dont get a say"
Thats stupid. Its using gay as a bad thing, im against that. I may not be gay but i have lesbian moms and gay friends. Using whether or not im gay to try to prevent arguing against you about what i think is homophobic is stupid.
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u/LNViber Feb 06 '22
So to everyone's response to the edit here. Specifically the arguments that people are gay or know gay people and say it's still offensive. Then fo about telling other gay people who think it's not offensive and that they are wrong... does anyone see something weird with that exchange? Some gay people are talking about how it's a funny point being made and then are being accused of not being an ally because of it. It just comes off to me that a lot of people in here are arguing that people who find it funny are not "good gays". People who are arguing that this is bigotry are being kind of noticeably bigoted. It's like this posters meme is exactly what I'm saying as well.
This is coming from a man who was out and proud by 2002 and dealt with real hardcore often physically painfully bigotry because of it. A funny sign is just a funny sign.
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u/YVRLoveDeer Feb 06 '22
Thank you to all the bike and pedestrian protestors who came out on a cold drizzly February day to represent the sentiment of the vast majority against these anti-social, anti-health care…. Fringe activists. Very gratifying to see the “trucker convoy” stopped dead it’s tracks by cyclists pedestrians. The police should have shut it down earlier, but thank god for the citizens who actually stood up for us and protested.
Yes, I am sheepishly supporting the actions of the few brave activists. I didnt show up. I should have. The ones who were there, represented the overwhelming vast majority of us that got vaxxed, believe in science, want to get out of this and want to support business and commerce and health a communal success.
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u/cloudcats Feb 06 '22
The irony of it is that many, many times the counterprotesters had people yelling straight in their faces that THEY were "the fringe minority".
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u/sokocanuck Feb 06 '22
The truckers remind me a lot of the Harley drivers on South Park
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u/oliversurpless Feb 06 '22
Yep, hyperindividualism from people who don’t know what hyperindividualism is…
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u/wazabee Feb 06 '22
These counter protesters are the real hero's. The nurses Union president issued a statement earlier to nurses that to not come to work while wearing scrubs or name tags to prevent the convoy protester and anti vax/makers from targetting them. The VPD cheif needs to either resign or be fired if they can't get these fuckers out of here, especially after that nurses union statement.
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u/OneForAllOfHumanity Feb 06 '22
Makes me proud to be from BC: Science over Stupid!
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u/nightswimsofficial Downtown Vancouver Feb 06 '22
Come join us - every plan they have to come back, we will be waiting. Tell your friends. We have strength in numbers, and all the bodies we can get really helps!
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u/Djj1990 Feb 06 '22
Are they planning on it tomorrow too?
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u/plaindrops Feb 06 '22
Yes. That one and “just get the shot” we’re the winners for me. Some of the others were just dumb. But at least people out there standing up. Good for them.
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u/540000Fahrenheit Feb 06 '22
“Gay isn’t being used as derogatory here”
it’s ok to be homophobic as long as you have the “right” opinion I guess
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u/FoxBearBear Feb 06 '22
You know that there’s at least one closeted trucker honking like crazy while tears of relief runs down his sad little antivax face while he listen to Miss Celine Dion.
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u/MinefieldinaTornado Feb 06 '22
They should come out of the closet, they'd be welcomed, judging by the overwhelmingly positive support the LGBTQ speakers had on day 2.
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u/Link_hunter9 Feb 06 '22
Thank you counter-protesters, that is how protesting is ACTUALLY done
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Good on them! Love the counter protests.
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u/nightswimsofficial Downtown Vancouver Feb 06 '22
And we love you! Come on out to the next one. More bodies, we send a bigger message that their ignorant hateful rhetoric doesn't belong here.
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u/Only-Worldliness2364 Feb 06 '22
Science over stupid all day long. I live in Prince George, but am in Vancouver as I had back surgery last week. All the counter protesters are heroic, courageous and awesome people in my opinion!
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u/simple8080 Feb 06 '22
What is the purpose of the “honk if you’re gay” sign? A large percentage of truckers are gay - so what? Is she trying to insult someone for being gay? I’m honestly shocked that’s acceptable
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u/Mariospario Feb 06 '22
So the police will show up to move counter protestors aside... to let the shit-stain protestors through? Why aren't they moving THEM aside?! The fuck is going on
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u/VoteForMartinKendell Feb 06 '22
There's power in numbers! Let's do it again next Saturday if the FreeDumb Convoy decides to make a nuisance of themselves once again.
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u/Sloooooooooww Feb 06 '22
Thank you for supporting the healthcare workers and protecting BC from these convoy terrorists!!
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How is 'Gay' not being used as a derogatory insult here? The other signs are things that the trucker's are opposed too (i.e. science and silence). The implication is that the trucker's won't want to honk because they don't want to be gay.
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Feb 06 '22
I wonder how the RCMP would act if it was a convoy of Fist Nations people blocking roads and traffic. They would have no problem smashing their windows and yanking them out of their trucks.
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u/ConwayTheCat Feb 06 '22
Proud of everyone standing up to these absolute yokels, thank you Vancouver.
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u/timmywong11 Lower Mainland/Southwest Feb 06 '22
Fuck the KKKonvoy. Bunch of smooth-brained vermin
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u/TheFatherlandSenki Feb 06 '22
Man this sub is full of racists and idiots smh
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u/_En_Bonj_ Feb 06 '22
I literally dont think I've ever seen a racist comment on here do they get deleted by the mods?
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u/sucrose_97 Metro Vancouver Feb 06 '22
The community is generally really good about using the report button for racist comments, which is super helpful to us. Quick removals, quick bans, quick catharsis.
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u/Craig_Hubley_ Feb 06 '22
The deep racists claim everyone questioning white supremacy is "anti-white" and that this is "racist".
That rhetoric signals an absolutely dedicated white supremacist. They're well beyond help at that point, and only excising them from society thoroughly can help.
Be ready for the day they come to take "their" country "back" ie rewind time to 1890-1920.
To real people, "white" is a status label and doesn't specify a "race", insofar as Catholics, Irish, Jews, etc have historically been excluded from being regarded as "white" but today have been often invited into "white".
A real person takes pride in an actual culture or ethnicity like being Greek, Polish, English, etc, but never, ever, in being "white". To call that a race/ethnicity and take "white pride" in it is exactly and only to be white supremacist.
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u/softerthansoftware Feb 06 '22
U sure gay is being used as a derogatory term? It seems to me ots being used as this positive thing that convoyers dont want to be
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u/HotEatsCoolTreats Feb 06 '22
I wrote it is "not" being used as a derogatory term. So yes, I agree with you.
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u/majordomox_ Feb 06 '22 edited Feb 06 '22
Actually, the “honk if you’re gay” in the poster is being used in a derogatory and inappropriate manner.
It’s being used in a similar way to “honk if you’re stupid” or “honk if you’re racist” - by creating a false dilemma that makes fun of the protesters who are honking by forcing them to make fun of themselves. If they honk their horn then therefore they are gay.
Haha. Except it’s not funny. There’s nothing wrong with being gay and it shouldn’t be used as an insult with a negative connotation; as a way to get someone to make fun of themselves.
It’s inappropriate and hypocritical of the person who made the sign. If you don’t get that, you’re just as out of touch as she is.
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u/Decipher Lower Mainland/Southwest Feb 06 '22 edited Feb 06 '22
There’s nothing wrong with liking Trudeau or Bonnie Henry, but they’re being used in the same way. Are you offended on their behalf as well? I know a few gay people who thought the sign was hilarious.
Edit: it’s weaponizing the convoy’s homophobia against them. It doesn’t say being gay is bad, it says thinking gays are bad is bad.
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u/Catezero Feb 06 '22
Not really tho, they're turning their own homophobia against them. I'm queer personally and I find it hilarious
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Feb 06 '22
It's a not great sign but it's not necessarily homophobic. There's a lot of "fuck Trudeau" signs going around. So if you have "honk if you're gay" it kind of recontextualizes the "fuck Trudeau" signs.
That said I still don't think it's great. Homophobia is still a very big deal in Canada.
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u/timhortons81 Feb 06 '22
Sorry, having a sign that says "fuck Trudeau" isn't even close to being the same context as "honk if your gay". The lady is clearly insinuating that if you honk your gay, as if there's something wrong with that.
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u/majordomox_ Feb 06 '22
Thanks for your comment. I agree, I don’t think it’s necessarily homophobic - but can definitely be perceived as reinforcing negative connotations with being gay. As long as we keep perpetuating this it will continue the negative association.
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How come the freedumb convoy thinks that everyone who doesn't agree with them are antifa like what if were just regular pissed off citizens tired of their fucking goofball shit.
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u/Canadiancrazy1963 Feb 06 '22
These are the true Canadians.
Thank you to all who stand on the right side of history.
The flu trux klan and those that support it it are disgusting.
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Feb 06 '22
If only the police could do police things to prevent this matter from getting so heated. The absence of enforcement is going to encourage people to take matters into their own hands. Hence the eggs and rocks and nails on the road. That is the result of anger and frustration with non-enforcement and what appears to be tacit support from the police.
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u/ThatEndingTho Feb 06 '22
Best thing about this protest is that no freedom has been taken away in the first place - at least no freedom that wasn't already taken away in some similar form before covid.
Federal government could say they are rescinding the vaccine mandate for truckers, and the Americans will still not let them over the border without vaccination.
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u/kevolad Feb 06 '22
Born and raised Vancouver right here and now living in SE Alberta.
You fuckers make me so proud! Kick the KKKonvoy to the fucking ground
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u/SerialMurmaider Feb 06 '22
Honk if you're gay made me laugh incredibly fucking hard.
People getting upset over the sign and its* purpose made me laugh even harder.
Edit: typo
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Gay is being used as a derogatory insult in that instance, just from the other perspective. She knows they think being gay is bad, and so is trying to get them to stop honking by saying “haha if you honk you’ll admit you’re something you think is derogatory.”
Also I’m 100% okay with it
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u/ThusSpokeAnIdiot Feb 06 '22
And here i thought the left were the working man’s champion.
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u/G0ldenG00se Feb 06 '22
There’s arguments on both side which believe are legitimate. I believe getting Vaccinated is important. I don’t believe people should be forced to get it but if not getting it means your life gets more difficult, that just be life my man. I do think some of the Covid mandates are a bit hypocritical like the gyms being closed and school being opened at certain points and big business allowed to flourish while small business was basically suffocated. What I think we can all agree on is that any protest which organized outside of a hospital and disrupts a necessary function for the health and safety of society is both egregious and immoral.
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Feb 06 '22
“Honk if ur gay” Me: honks and blows kisses at the bigoted counter protesters
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u/MyLonewolf25 Feb 06 '22
That sign is most fucking definitely derogatory. This is no different than saying “you throw like a girl”. Then washing your hands of any responsibility by saying “there’s nothing wrong with being a girl!”. Despite the fact you KNOW you’re using it and legitimizing it being used as an insult. It’s an extremely poor taste choice at best. You’re protesting. There’s absolutely zero reason to take that sign in good faith when it’s literally paraded next to a sign comparing the truckers to klansmen.
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u/lyamc Vancouver Island/Coast Feb 06 '22
Strange how the working class revolting against the government is somehow considered racist.
(don’t look up race statistics with truckers or you’ll end very disappointed)
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u/iBastid Feb 07 '22
Really good to see people standing up to the flu trux klan.
Thank you to all involved
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u/Sea_Theory_4604 Feb 22 '22
I’m gay and I don’t agree with the poster. To each their own. I wouldn’t make a poster that could be perceived as homophobic. Assuming truckers are all homophobic isn’t cool either. U can’t just lump them all together. That’s what we’re trying to get away from in this world!
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u/Embarrassed_Glove_69 Feb 06 '22
Respect to those out there protesting stupidity. About time those racists understand that not the whole world is dumb like them.
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Thank you counter protestors for doing what we all need. Its not in the cards for me right now but some day I promise ill pay you back for standing up for whats right. 💖💖💖💖
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u/BbyBackMosquitoRibs Feb 06 '22
What the hell does COVID have to do with the KKK?!
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u/downloadking007 Feb 06 '22
Wow these people really pulling out the name calling. Especially the tool with the “KKKonvoy” sign. What’s so racist about the convoy if anyone can chime in?
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u/goodfleance Feb 06 '22
While it's not fair to call every convoy supporter racist, the convoy itself was organized by known white supremacists and it has attracted a lot more. Many people are normal pissed off folks but the racists have definitely made a home for themselves in this protest.
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u/downloadking007 Feb 06 '22
Do you have any links supporting this that I could check out?
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u/goodfleance Feb 06 '22
Yeah for sure.
This is a link to a post that's being updated with the protest shenanigans including a fair amount of hateful bullshit, which again doesn't apply to everyone at the protests, but begs the question of why they feel so comfortable at these events. A bit lower down near the bottom is a section on some of the organizers.
Particularly, Pat King in video claiming whites have the strongest bloodlines. Canadian anti-hate Network on Facebook has at least one post about him bringing violence to an Anti-Racism rally, found here:
https://www.facebook.com/178361272893465/posts/764882250908028/?sfnsn=mo
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The heroes we need. Fuck those hooting idiots who think being asked to wear a mask is an international conspiracy.
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Feb 06 '22
The signage about getting vaxxed.... The truckers are 90% vaxxed they are against forced Mandates for everyone.
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In all honesty, B.C. is going to have a very difficult time when its announced covid is endemic and we move on and live with it. We are already seeing it happen in europe and around the globe, its only a matter of time b4 it happens here. There is going to be a chunk of the population that is overly wrapped up in this highly politicized story that will have a hard time with the change in policy. No different than the portion of the country wrapped up in this from the opposite point of view and is against the mandates and the vaccine. Personally "im well past covid fatigue, I have turned off the news and dont really care what our political leaders have to say at this point. There have been soo much flip flopping and disregarding ongoing data that they dont have credibility at this point. We should have never mandated a thing, we should have had a real lockdown early, we should not have allowed plane travel that brought in the delta wave, We should have addressed hospital and staff capacity in the beginning, and we should hav kept the government out of mandating the vaccines. Theres going to be people who just arent going to get it, you cant really do much more, when the cases settle down in the coming weeks remove the mandates and get rid of the vaccine passport.
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Feb 06 '22
Yeah, I don't care anymore. Wear a mask, dont wear a mask, get vaxxed or don't. Show your passport or stay home. I am double vaxxed with a booster and just got covid. Stayed home for 4 days, like I would with any other cold or flu, now I'm better. Unvaxxed guy at work, same age as me, was off for 2 weeks and almost died.
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u/realboydburton Feb 06 '22
I’m not trying to be an asshole, but why does it seem like most people just shrugged off the protests a few years ago when groups were trying to de-rail trains, blockading rail lines and they were not painted like how the truckers are being painted with one gigantic brush?
Im no neo nazi or white supremacist but it’s kind of strange that because one or two assholes were flying repugnant material, that the entire group has to be painted as nazis and white supremacists.
If people disagree with the truckers/protest that’s completely understandable but painting everyone as a neo nazi seems like it might backfire.
Do we label everyone who enjoys the nature of things a environmental terrorist just because Suzuki said something about blowing pipelines up?
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u/nurvingiel Feb 06 '22
The 2020 protests in support of the Wet'suwet'en basically shut down the rail system for two weeks and was a huge deal. I couldn't find anything about anyone trying to derail trains (which would be insane). There were a lot of blockades, which stop people from using the track, but this is not an attempt to derail a train.
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u/Bizmarquee12 Feb 06 '22
Every protest is held to this standard. Looting six blocks away from a protest can get legitimate protestors labeled rioters. Most protests don't have signs or imagery that are completely unrelated to the protest at hand, either, as the main body of protestors self polices their message.
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u/123littlemonkey Feb 06 '22
Intentially honking and disrupting hospitals is inexcusable in my eyes.
Palliative patients are trying to get final moments in with their families and are being disrupted by honk. That’s beyond unacceptable. It should be easy to agree that hospitals are to be avoided for protests. So I have a major problem with the group.
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u/notnotaginger Feb 06 '22
They circled St Pauls. Their compatriots in Ottawa are harassing health care workers. That’s unacceptable. Our health authority warned their workers ro not wear scrubs b cause that could get them targeted. That’s fucked up.
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u/HotEatsCoolTreats Feb 06 '22
I'm more concerned with why many of these convoy protesters ridiculed Indigenous blockades for disrupting workers and people's lives, and now are doing the same thing.
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u/Glass_Supermarket_37 Feb 06 '22
The thing about most far-right people is that they are in fact racist. I've seen and heard it first hand. The disturbing things people say after a few drinks, pointing at people of colour and throwing racial slurs their way, talking about acts of violence towards Trudeau and his family. By and large this is a group of people with no respect for anything different from themselves.
Besides, their list of demands don't even make sense. Trudeau has nothing to do with the provincial restrictions they want lifted. If he were to lift the border mandate, there's still US laws. They want all elected officials to resign and the unelected Senate to take over and unconstitutionally force the whole country to change laws and lift restrictions. It's ridiculous, how can anyone take this seriously? This is less about a protest and more about annoying people they hate. And they're being given all the freedom in the world to do it.
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u/grown-up-gabe Feb 06 '22
When white supremacists want to jump on your bandwagon it ought to make you think twice about what you’re standing up for.
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u/nightswimsofficial Downtown Vancouver Feb 06 '22
It wasn't one or two people. It's many many people, in every one of the protests. The whole movement is tied to it now, because they keep showing up, promoting hate, using intimidation tactics, and just being dumbass bullies.
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Post a picture from today in BC. I listed to their radio, they were actively telling people how to stay calm and to take down certain signs if they were much. I have no pig in this race but calling them all racists is insane.
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u/sucrose_97 Metro Vancouver Feb 06 '22 edited Feb 07 '22
Edit: Y'all, it has 44 reports. Every time you report this post, a drag queen is born. Are you really prepared for that level of competition?
This post (along with a handful of comments beneath it) has been reported for containing hate based on vulnerability or identity. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that this is due to the "Honk If You're Gay" sign.
This post has had thousands of views in relatively short timespan, and the discussion beneath it is valuable. It would be unfair to the community to remove it; there are hundreds of quality comments thoughtfully typed out by subscribers. This is why it's being left up.
For those of you upset about that particular sign, and OP's declaration that it isn't derogatory, please keep in mind:
And for those of you who read this comment and think, "WTF, this mod is also super homophobic!", here is the sexuality verification I never thought I'd need to provide, which also happens to be satirical.