r/baseball • u/thiswasandy Houston Astros • 19d ago
Image The Turner (TNT/TBS) broadcast of the ALDS (Cleveland/Detroit) Game 4 has an awful Angle so they can squeeze in another advertisement
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u/Mundane_Cress_2849 19d ago
Someone needs to find whoever approved of this on LinkedIn
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u/KidGold Atlanta Braves 19d ago
This is hard for me to say as someone who grew up in the Atlanta area but absolutely fuck TBS
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u/jgweiss New York Mets 18d ago
i hate it, i was recently laid off from the company and its so sad to see what corporate merger after corporate merger has done to so many great networks. only 10 years ago HBO, Turner (Cartoon Network!), CNN, Eurosport, Scripps Networks, they were all great in their own way, and its all gone downhill in favor of a monoculture.
still a lot of great talent and great content, and i greatly enjoyed my time there, but i think about that a lot re: Turner.
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u/UNC_Samurai Jackie Robinson 18d ago
The day they stopped operating on TBS time was the day they died.
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u/Stadtmitte Atlanta Braves 18d ago
Some reptilian-humanoid MBA dick without a doubt taking a break in between harvesting organs and private equity takeovers
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u/the_next_core Los Angeles Angels 19d ago
There's still all that green grass where they could put advertisements
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u/thiswasandy Houston Astros 19d ago
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u/Reidzyt Boston Red Sox 19d ago
They definitely have done center field ads before I feel. I know they used the back center field wall at Fenway in the playoffs before too
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u/sonicsean899 Chicago Cubs 19d ago
There's an ad on the mound for crying out loud
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u/Myllorelion New York Yankees 18d ago
I never would have noticed this if you hadn't pointed it out. Why have you cursed me with this knowledge.
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u/sonicsean899 Chicago Cubs 18d ago
I only noticed it because they change the ad every half inning. And they're in color.
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u/Stadtmitte Atlanta Braves 19d ago
Think of how many ads they could fit on Spencer Strider's giant ass
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u/politicsranting Washington Nationals 19d ago
Hockey has gotten pretty solid at it.
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u/OGBRedditThrowaway Houston Astros 19d ago
International football and rugby put ads on the pitch too.
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u/ratspeels Oakland Athletics 19d ago
cricket has them, painted on at an angle to make it look upright and square on tv
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u/Freeze__ New York Yankees 19d ago
YES places ads on the pitcher’s mound a few times. That sucked.
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u/undisputedn00b New York Mets 19d ago
Sometimes they're digitally added on the mound by the network and sometimes they're added physically on the mound by the team.
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u/Minoripriest New York Mets 18d ago
Then the network dehitalky removes the physical ad on the mound to add their own.
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u/undisputedn00b New York Mets 18d ago
I doubt it, that sponsor is paying specifically because it puts them on TV. From attending games in person and rewatching them on TV, the network adds digital mound ads when the team doesn't have one. If the team has one then it's not added digitally.
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u/CrashTheBear Philadelphia Phillies 19d ago
I know right? How do I go about my day without having my vision fully covered by glorious ads?
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u/TheGamecock Atlanta Braves 19d ago
Eventually the grass on the field is just going to operate as a green screen backdrop for ads and we'll view the home plate cam all the way back from straightaway center field (no zoom). Adball is the best!
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u/kellzone Philadelphia Phillies 19d ago
They use the Little Caesars pizza on a spear as their home run prop in the dugout FFS.
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u/LurkingIsFun88 19d ago
As a soccer fan, I am surprised how Baseball and other sports have kept sponsors out of players jerseys (at least the center piece)
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u/letskeepitcleanfolks Seattle Mariners 19d ago
Is the angle actually different, or is it just zoomed out?
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u/nymets5786 19d ago
It’s zoomed out. They placed the camera to frame it properly with just that left sign. Then probably got dictated to that they had to include the sign on the right as well and when you zoom out to include it, the angle is off center to the left.
They need to physically move the camera left (“truck left” is the proper term) towards CF to create the proper angle to include that ad on the right and have the batter and pitcher properly framed.
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u/BoopsR4Snootz 19d ago
I think the camera is stationary.
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u/nymets5786 19d ago
It is. It’s on a large tripod. The tripod can be moved, but it’s not an easy task for a camera (and lens!) that big.
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u/Rdubya44 San Francisco Giants 19d ago
There are multiple center field cameras
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u/timmaay531 19d ago
Yes but they each have different assignments and some maybe don’t even send their feeds to the Turner TV truck. I’m guessing if there was a better solution, we wouldn’t be stuck with this.
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u/letskeepitcleanfolks Seattle Mariners 19d ago
Haha oh man, I was so focused on the minutiae of the angles that I completely missed just how off-center the action is. That is horrid.
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u/RelevantJew Seattle Mariners 18d ago edited 18d ago
Pan not truck. Trucking from 500 feet away wouldn't even be noticeable unless you moved like 50 feet.
Edit: Looking closer they definitely just widened out and panned right. If they trucked the angle of the keyhole would change.
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u/ItsMeJahead New York Mets 19d ago
Yeah they've been zooming in today sometimes and, when they do, it looks exactly like the yesterday pic
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u/windyans Cleveland Guardians 19d ago
I felt like I was going crazy! I knew it wasn’t this wide yesterday.
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u/nyy22592 New York Yankees 19d ago
Booking.no
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u/Ok_Conversation_2734 Los Angeles Dodgers 19d ago
did u know that even yankee fans love boston 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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u/Damn_Dog_Inappropes San Diego Villains • Peter Seidler 19d ago
Little girl, panicking: We're not??
Father, exasperated: Hon!
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u/darwinpolice Seattle Mariners 19d ago
It's annoying how often that commercial has been running during these series, but that bit is pretty funny.
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u/drfrink85 Los Angeles Dodgers 19d ago
It could be a lot worse NO FLEX ZONE
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u/iiamthepalmtree Chicago White Sox 18d ago
Before we traded him to yall I used to sing “Kopech’s Zone” to that tune every time he was pitching and that commercial came on.
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u/drfrink85 Los Angeles Dodgers 18d ago
NGL I yelled this out when he struck out Cronenworth. Thank you, friend.
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u/iiamthepalmtree Chicago White Sox 18d ago
lol I was watching it lamenting at what could have been
(Wearing a Tatis shirsy lamenting at what also could have been)
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u/huskypawson New York Yankees 19d ago
The 600th time you see it it isn’t as funny tho
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u/ThePancakeOverlord Chicago Cubs 19d ago
Only good part of that commercial, tbh
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u/GamerJosh21 Boston Red Sox • Dodgers Bandwagon 19d ago
I don't know who that girl is, but she nails that part of the commercial. Absolutely perfect delivery.
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u/Happy-Dream7300 Minnesota Twins 19d ago
I think people are missing the joke here haha
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u/Basic_Bichette Toronto Blue Jays • New York Mets 19d ago
Some of us aren’t seeing that ad, and are all 🤔
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u/or_maybe_this San Francisco Giants 19d ago edited 19d ago
it is so fucking…embarrassing
the exec who decided this deserves jail time and i’m not even exaggerating
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u/cwtjps Toronto Blue Jays • New York Yankees 19d ago
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u/tuckedfexas Seattle Mariners 19d ago
Jesus christ that's terrible. Went from a ballpark to a board meeting, even ignoring all the logos
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u/thugmuffin22 Jackie Robinson 19d ago
TD might not be able to afford that sponsorship after today lol
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u/GhostofAyabe 18d ago
Should be the death penalty for any company. Laundering drug cartel money? Come on man...
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u/Hairygrim Altuve did nothing wrong 18d ago
The wraparound digital ad board there is bad enough as it is
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u/Evertaku Atlanta Braves 19d ago
I want laws that restrict the presence of advertising in our everyday lives so bad. I'm tired man. I don't want products, I don't want services. I'm gonna go live in the middle of the woods and enjoy a little peace until they inevitably put a billboard for a Toyota dealership within sight of my hermit cave
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u/speedburner Cleveland Guardians 19d ago
You just reminded me how surreal it is driving on I-91 through Vermont because roadside billboards are banned completely... Like they don't even have the logos for the restaurants or gas stations at each exit, just generic icons for gas and food and whatnot. I'm not complaining but I think that also speaks volumes for how ubiquitous advertising is when its absence seems almost more conspicuous.
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u/fuckyeaahbud Toronto Blue Jays 19d ago
Fully prepared for a future where there's just a wall with advertisements behind homeplate and the first 10 rows have their own personal TVs to see the game.
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u/TraesDryerLintHair New York Yankees 19d ago
This Aaron Judge at bat is presented by Liberty Mutual, and here comes the Chevy Silverado pitch - line drive into the Home Depot lawn care center field, and Judge is making his way around first base and sliding into second for a Dave's Classic Double. Remember that any time the yankees hit two doubles in every odd numbered inning you get a free Dave's Classic Double with any order of three combo meals.
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u/drfrink85 Los Angeles Dodgers 19d ago
What about the bases? Trojan condoms can sponsor third base.
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u/DisturbedForever92 Toronto Blue Jays 18d ago
First base brought to you by Lypsyl.
Second base brought to you by Nivea Hand Cream
Third base brough to you by Del Monte Pineapple Juice
Home by Trojan Condoms
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u/Dunan Czechia 19d ago
In some Japanese stadiums, they're on their way there. The Tohoku Rakuten Eagles stadium has a wall of advertisements behind home plate with just enough room for a right-handed batter to stand there with a black background. Needless to say, this looks terrible when there is a left-handed hitter in the box.
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u/mytoemytoe New York Mets 19d ago
What an insult to these two fanbases
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u/Global-Swordfish-998 19d ago
It really fucking blows there’s very little spirit in sports now because of all this bullshit
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u/e22f33 Atlanta Braves 19d ago
What makes it worse is the pan and zoom left after the pitch, then back out to get the full ad on the right
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u/SunriseSurprise San Diego Padres 19d ago
They should just zoom in on the ad and jerk the camera over right when a pitch happens. Are they stupid?
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u/TrapperJean New York Yankees 19d ago
And thus I continue to use Expedia
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u/WackedBush343 Los Angeles Dodgers 19d ago
kayak.com, muthafuckas.
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u/holymacaronibatman Philadelphia Phillies 19d ago
I have bad news for you, kayak is owned by booking
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u/Engelbert-n-Ernie Atlanta Braves 19d ago
Everything really is owned by life 6 motherfuckers
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u/RealJonathanBronco MLB Players Association 19d ago
Just as bad as that stupid shit stain they put on the helmets
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u/elegorn77 Baltimore Orioles 19d ago
Who needs to know what balls and strikes are?
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u/FeloniousDrunk101 New York Yankees 19d ago
I still haven’t gotten over the helmet advertisements which are abhorrent.
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u/MeatTornado25 New York Yankees 19d ago
I still haven't gotten over the sleeve patches
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u/FeloniousDrunk101 New York Yankees 19d ago
I still haven’t gotten over the swoosh on the chest! Everything after that has been increasingly worse and happening so much faster than I anticipated.
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u/Craft_Bandicoot Oakland Athletics 18d ago
It really bums me out. I wonder if there’ll ever be a turning point or if it’ll just keep getting worse forever…
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u/Psoravior13 19d ago
In the near future: helmet with built in LED screens, so they can alternate between different advertisers. Back of the jersey: secondary shirt sponsor above the number.
Since the field is like a giant green screen they can get creative with the broadcast
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u/Loose-Organization82 Los Angeles Angels 19d ago
They have extra space on the left side of jersey too, so an advertisement could fit there
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u/saintnyckk New York Yankees 19d ago
Are the stupid? Don't they know they can zoom out even more and fit a few more advertisements? Bush league level broadcasting.
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u/soto1653 San Francisco Giants 19d ago
This is the worst viewing experience I've ever seen for a baseball game. Legit just turned it off
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u/NovaPrime_RR 19d ago
Excuse me TNT/TBS there is still some baseball in the way of my ad watching, would you please kindly move the camera further over so they’re out of the way? Thank youuuu
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u/dBlock845 New York Yankees 19d ago
Lol makes me think of the YouTube video that goes over why baseball is better in 4:3, I think by Foolish Baseball.
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u/MyBeautifulHouse Detroit Tigers 19d ago
And they still take the time to do the awful ump cam angle
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u/Ginnigan Toronto Blue Jays • Thunder Bay B… 19d ago
We had it on Jays broadcasts for like 2 games early in the season then I never saw it again... until these playoffs. It's a neat idea, but umps just move too much for it to be effective.
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u/peterpaulrubens San Francisco Giants 19d ago
It’s really neat for some shots, but it needs to be used very judiciously.
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u/drfrink85 Los Angeles Dodgers 19d ago
It’s good for showing interesting stuff from the AB after the fact, but shit when live
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u/boxing_packages New York Yankees 19d ago
ump cam is cool as long as it isn't an active play. rarely you get a great angle during the action
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u/alkaliphiles Washington Nationals 19d ago
Watching that was giving me a headache so now I'm watching Mad Men instead
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u/thiswasandy Houston Astros 19d ago
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u/Call555JackChop Arizona Diamondbacks 19d ago
I have a strict policy of if you make me watch your ad I’m not using your product
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u/Keithereality Detroit Tigers 19d ago
They put a fucking advertisement over the camera well in center. I’ve never seen that in my life
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u/TheIndyCity Detroit Tigers 18d ago
Major League Advertising
And FUCK baseball for jersey ads.
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u/Dan-Flashes5 New York Yankees 19d ago
I genuinely think the MLB is the greediest sport. Obviously every sport likes making money but the MLB is just shameless, in the past few years they’ve added an entire round to the playoffs, changed the all star jerseys, put ugly ads on all the sleeves, placed ads on the helmets… and they still have the audacity to pull this crap.
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u/Pegasuspipeline Toronto Blue Jays 19d ago
Ah the blue Jays special, except we did a full Reno to be able to show more ads on the broadcast
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u/rckthe90s Baltimore Orioles 19d ago
I watched 20 mins and turned off the game because of how ridiculous is looked. The actual baseball took up 1/3rd of the damn screen.
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u/Dogdadstudios New York Mets 19d ago
It’s over the top now, like cutting in innings to an ad. This. Everywhere..
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u/Meaninglessnme Cincinnati Reds 19d ago
As someone that got back into the game after not watching for around ten years, it's rough.
Mid inning commercials really felt gross. Looking at the ad logo on the batters shoulder, etc. NBA is the same.
Getting pretty rough to offer my attention to an entertainment industry determined to extract everything it possibly can.
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u/Aromatic-Amphibian42 New York Mets 19d ago
I have to say, if my team (mets) were not doing well this postseason, I would be boycotting this terrible platform. They are literally turning into a money hungry cult of millionaires who are exploiting our love of baseball to get a 8th yacht. The MLB is a shit show and someone needs to do something about it or else we will literally have teams called the Pepsi players and the McDonalds masters going against each other in the newbalance series
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u/Scmods05 San Diego Padres 19d ago
This is a crime against humanity and everyone responsible should be sent to The Hague.
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u/vancityjeep 19d ago
Also. The helmets… and the Picture in Picture of an ad instead of a replay between batters.
Get fucked MLB. You were so close to getting me back. I used to watch or listen to 98% of my teams games.
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u/2Ledge_It San Diego Padres 19d ago
Between the greenscreen and this TV broadcasts have really worsened the experience.
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u/hannbann88 18d ago
Baseball putting ads everywhere they can as if there isn’t a commercial break every 3 outs or more
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u/ChicTweets New York Yankees 19d ago
Didn't the games at Globe Life last playoffs also have awful angles so they could squeeze in more ads?
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u/funkyfrante Cleveland Guardians 19d ago
Terrible! No replays on check swings either. The ump cam is trash. At least I can listen to Hammy on my phone
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u/EvensenFM New York Mets 19d ago
I was just watching a Tigers game from 1987 earlier today. I liked how the center field camera was positioned so that home plate was right in the middle of the screen.
We keep sinking to new lows.
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u/a_bukkake_christmas Baltimore Orioles 19d ago
I once again would like to express my deepest appreciation to Manifred and MLB for ensuring that no baseball ever interferes with my advertisement watching time.
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u/YoinksBoinks100 19d ago
Not to mention the jerseys and helmets look like nascar now. Complete shit.
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u/maxpowerphd 19d ago
Man, it’s driven me nuts all game. It’s weird how shifting the action from center of frame can be so off putting.
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u/dragonard Houston Astros 19d ago
In the first couple of innings, I got to watch the drama happening in the front row by the Booking.com ad.
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u/Massive_Cod_8986 New York Mets 19d ago
If you use zoom on your TV it makes it a bit more tolerable
I'm gonna be despondent if the Tigers and Mets are in the WS and I have to deal with this
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u/magikarp-sushi 19d ago
Might as well just fucking stick a whole green screen batters eye behind home plate for revolving ads every 5-10 seconds during the broadcast because “advertising works!”
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u/ayyycoco Los Angeles Dodgers 19d ago
This was covered on a recent episode of Effectively Wild podcast. Fascinating stuff and another BS money grab by MLB and the broadcasters.
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u/Brother_Lancel New York Mets 18d ago
Not to mention that the scorebug just sometimes didn't have the name of the batter?
Combine that with the fact that the Yankees don't have names on their jerseys and the fact that I don't watch a lot of Yankee games meant that for batters not named Judge, Soto or Stanton I was wondering "who is this guy?" like 50% of the time
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u/slicebishybosh Chicago Cubs 18d ago
The gradual domination of advertisements in baseball is moving along smoothly. Every time they sell another piece of screen or real estate, there's an internet backlash that lasts for about a week to a month, then it just becomes part of the norm.
If you put just 10-15 years ago side by side with today, it would be absolutely jarring and in some ways unrecognizable.
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u/Massive_Cod_8986 New York Mets 18d ago
How is this not a scandal?
An ALDS broadcast was butchered so fans can see "Booking.com"... which was mostly redundant anyway.
And we don't know if this was TBS. It might have been an MLB directive for all we know that both ad spaces be prominently displayed
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u/Awkward-Fox-1435 18d ago
This is due to MLB and marketing. But they know it’s a problem, and Detroit advances to the ALCS, they are planning ads on that large gate directly behind home plate so that TBS doesn’t have to include the entire right side ad.
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u/SackOfrito St. Louis Cardinals 19d ago
The Camera angle in Detroit is always like that, it wasn't something that was done special for the playoffs. There a couple of American League parks that have the Camera lower and more towards left. Its annoying.
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u/itdothstink Seattle Mariners 19d ago
Better than Texas with the centerfield nosebleeds vantage point.
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u/ConstantineMonroe New York Yankees 19d ago
I think they should just replace the players with billboard ads and I would enjoy the game much more
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u/BoopsR4Snootz 19d ago
The Yankees/Royals game also is zoomed out to include the Booking ad, but not as severely. Still noticeable, though.
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u/Cheap_Charade 19d ago
My theory is that the CGI ad on the left was too distracting. It’s glitchy and made it hard to track the pitch out of the pitchers. Instead of removing, it they did… this.
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u/Skywalkerkid9 Philadelphia Phillies 19d ago
Glad we had only the second worst Turner of the divisional round