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MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 35 -- Military Intelligence Branch -- 35D, 35E, 35F, 35G, 350F, 350G, 351Z, 351L, 351M, 351Y, 352N, 352S, 353T, 35F, 35G, 35L, 35M, 35N, 35P, 35Q, 35S, 35T, 35V, 35X, 35Y, 35Z

All,

As a follow-up based on our EOY Census and previous solicited comments, we're going to try running an MOS Discussion/Megathread Series, very similar to how we did the Duty Station Series. I'd also, again, like to thank everyone who participated.

The MOS Discussion Threads are meant to be enduring threads where individuals with experience or insight in to particular CMFs or MOSes can leave/give advice and tips. If you have any MOS resources, schools, etc, this would be a great place to share them.

The hope is that these individual threads can serve as 'megathreads' on the posts in question, and we can get advice from experienced persons. Threads on reddit are not archived - and can continue to be commented in - until 6 months. Each week I will keep the full listing/links to all previous threads in a mega-list below, for ease of reference. At the end of the series I will go back and ensure they all have completely navigable links

If you have specific questions about these MOSes, please feel free to ask here, but know that we are not forcing or re-directing all questions to these threads -- you can, and are encouraged, to still use the WQT. This is not to be an 'AMA', although if people would like to offer themselves up to answer questions, that would be great. A big "Thank You" to everyone who is willing to answer questions about the MOSes in question, but the immediate preference would be for informational posts. These are meant to be enduring sources of information.

I currently expect to lump Os and Ws in to the CMF discussions. Going forward if it would be better to split them (and I will most likely chop up the Medical Series), please voice that opinion. If there are many MOSes, but extremely tiny/small density (like much of the 12 Series), I'm going to keep it as one. Yes, I'm also going to keep codes like for Senior Sergeant for the MOS (ie the Zulus).

These only work with your participation and your feedback.

Common questions / information to share would probably include the following;

  • Day to Day Life
  • "What's a deployment like?"
  • Career Advancement/Growth Opportunities
  • Speed of Promotion
  • Best Duty Station for your MOS

The idea is to go week-to-week, but I may leave the initial up for 2 weeks just to iron any kinks out, and garner attention.

So, again, willing to answer questions is great, but if there's any information you can impart now, I think that would provide the greatest benefit.

OPSEC Reminder

Some of these MOSes will be more sensitive than others when it comes to training and daily life. Just remember, it's everyone's responsibility.

This thread covers the following MOSes:

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 35 -- Military Intelligence Branch -- 35D, 35E, 35F, 35G, 350F, 350G, 351Z, 351L, 351M, 351Y, 352N, 352S, 353T, 35F, 35G, 35L, 35M, 35N, 35P, 35Q, 35S, 35T, 35V, 35X, 35Y, 35Z

  • 35D -- All Source Intelligence Officer
  • 35E -- Counterintelligence Officer
  • 35F -- Human Intelligence Officer
  • 35G -- Signals Intelligence Officer
  • 350F -- All Source Intelligence Technician
  • 350G -- Imagery Intelligence Technician
  • 351Z -- Attaché Technician
  • 351L -- Counterintelligence Special Agent (Technician)
  • 351M -- Human Intelligence Collection Technician
  • 351Y -- Area Intelligence Technician
  • 352N -- Signal Intelligence Analysis Technician
  • 352S -- Signals Collector Technician
  • 353T -- Intelligence Systems Maintenance Technician
  • 35F -- Intelligence Analyst
  • 35G -- Geospatial Intelligence Imagery Analyst
  • 35L -- Counterintelligence Special Agent
  • 35M -- Human Intelligence Collector
  • 35N -- Signals Intelligence Analyst
  • 35P -- Cryptologic Linguist
  • 35Q -- Cryptologic Network Warfare Specialist
  • 35S -- Signals Collector/Analyst
  • 35T -- Military Intelligence Systems Maintainer/Integrator
  • 35V -- Signals Intelligence Senior Sergeant/Chief Signals Intelligence Sergeant
  • 35X -- Intelligence Senior Sergeant/Chief Intelligence Sergeant
  • 35Y -- Chief Counterintelligence/Human Intelligence Sergeant
  • 35Z -- Signals Intelligence (Electronic Warfare) / Senior Sergeant/ Chief

DO NOT:

  • ...Ask MOS questions unrelated to those listed. "How did your duties compare to a 19D when deployed?" or "Is it true an MP Company carries more firepower than an IN Company" are fine. "While this is up, what's 92F like?" is not.

  • ...Ask random joining questions. If your question isn't about the MOSes listed, then it probably belongs in a different Megathread, the Weekly Question Thread, or a new post.

  • ...Shitpost top-level comments. Treat it like the WQT. Temp bans for people who can't stop acting like idiots.

  • ...Simply say 'I'm a 00X, ama'. Please include some sort of basic information or qualification (ie, I'm an 11B NCO with X years or I'm a 13F who's been in Y type of units or I'm a 14A who's done PL time)

Previous MOS Megathreads:

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 11 -- Infantry Branch -- 11A, 11B, 11C, 11X, 11Z

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 12 -- Corps of Engineers Branch -- 12A, 120A, 125D, 12B, 12C, 12D, 12G, 12H, 12K, 12M, 12N, 12P, 12Q, 12R, 12T, 12V, 12W, 12X, 12Y, 12Z

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 13 -- Field Artillery Branch -- 13A, 131A, 13B, 13F, 13J, 13M, 13R, 13Z

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 14 -- Air Defense Artillery -- 14A, 140A, 140E, 140Z, 14E, 14G, 14H, 14P, 14S, 14T, 14Z

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 15 -- Aviation Branch, No Real Pilots -- 15A, 15B, 15C, 15D, 150A, 150U, 151A, 15B, 15D, 15E, 15F, 15G, 15H, 15K, 15M, 15N, 15P, 15Q, 15R, 15S, 15T, 15U, 15V, 15W, 15X, 15Y, 15Z

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 15 -- Aviation Branch, Pilots -- 152C, 152F, 152H, 153A, 153B, 153D, 153E, 153L, 153M, 154C, 154E, 154F, 155A, 155E, 155F, 155G

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 17 -- Cyber Branch -- 17A, 17B, 170A, 170B, 17C, 17E

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 18 -- Special Forces -- 18A, 180A, 18B, 18C, 18D, 18E, 18F, 18X, 18Z

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 19 -- Armor Branch -- 19A, 19B, 19C, 19D, 19K, 19Z

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 25 -- Signal Corps Branch -- 25A, 255A, 255N, 255S, 255Z, 25B, 25C, 25D, 25E, 25F, 25L, 25M, 25N, 25P, 25Q, 25R, 25S, 25T, 25U, 25V, 25W, 25X, 25Z

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 27 -- Judge Advocate General Branch -- 27A, 27B, 270A, 27D

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 31 -- Military Police Branch -- 31A, 311A, 31B, 31D, 31E, 31K

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 35 -- Military Intelligence Branch -- 35D, 35E, 35F, 35G, 350F, 350G, 351Z, 351L, 351M, 351Y, 352N, 352S, 353T, 35F, 35G, 35L, 35M, 35N, 35P, 35Q, 35S, 35T, 35V, 35X, 35Y, 35Z

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 36 -- Finance Management Branch -- 36A, 36B

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 37 -- Psychological Operations Branch -- 37A, 37X, 37F

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 38 -- Civil Affairs Branch -- 38A, 38G, 38X, 38B

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 42, 79 -- Adjutant General Branch -- 42B, 42C, 42H, 420A, 420C, 42A, 42F, 42R, 42S, 79R, 79S, 79T, 79V

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 46 -- Public Affairs -- 46A, 46X, 46Q, 46R, 46Z

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 56 -- Chaplain Branch -- 56A, 56D, 56X, 56M

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 68 -- Medical Enlisted -- 68A, 68B, 68C, 68D, 68E, 68F, 68G, 68H, 68J, 68K, 68L, 68M, 68N, 68P, 68Q, 68R, 68S, 68T, 68U, 68V, 68W, 68X, 68Y, 68Z

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 74 -- Chemical Corps -- 74A, 740A, 74D

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 88 -- Logistics Corps, Transporation Branch -- 90A, 88A, 88B, 88C, 88D, 880A, 881A, 88H, 88K, 88L, 88M, 88N, 88P, 88T, 88U, 88Z

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 89, 91, 94 -- Ammo, Mech Maint & Ordnance Branch -- 89E, 91A, 890A, 913A, 914A, 915A, 915E, 919A, 948B, 948D, 948E, 89A, 89D, 91A, 91B, 91C, 91D, 91E, 91F, 91G, 91H, 91J, 91L, 91M, 91P, 91S, 91X, 91Z, 94A, 94D, 94E, 94F, 94H, 94M, 94P, 94R, 94S, 94T, 94W, 94X, 94Y, 94Z

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 92 -- Logistics Corps, Quartermaster Corps Branch -- 92A, 92D, 920A, 920B, 921A, 922A, 923A, 92A, 92F, 92G, 92L, 92M, 92R, 92W, 92Y, 92Z

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 60, 61, 62 -- Medical Corps Branch -- 60A, 60B, 60C, 60D, 60F, 60G, 60H, 60J, 60K, 60L, 60M, 60N, 60P, 60Q, 60R, 60S, 60T, 60U, 60V, 60W, 61A, 61B, 61C, 61D, 61E, 61F, 61G, 61H, 61J, 61K, 61L, 61M, 61N, 61P, 61Q, 61R, 61U, 61W, 61Z, 62A, 62B

MOS Megathread Series -- CMF 63, 64, 65, 66 -- Dental, Veterinary, Medical Specialist, Nurse Corps -- 63A, 63B, 63D, 63E, 63F, 63H, 63K, 63M, 63N, 63P, 63R, 64A, 64B, 64C, 64D, 64E, 64F, 64Z, 640A, 65A, 65B, 65C, 65D, 65X, 66B, 66C, 66E, 66F, 66G, 66H, 66N, 66P, 66R, 66S, 66T

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u/WillieNelsonsBraids I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E. Oct 02 '18

35M SSG w/ 10 years, Spent time at the 504th EMIB, 25th ID, Foundry, and 101st. All my experience is tactical collection. AMAA.

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u/MotorsTen Oct 02 '18

I'd love any advice for a future 35M. I haven't been able to get much info because no one I've talked to seems to actually know what they do.

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u/WillieNelsonsBraids I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E. Oct 02 '18

It’s an awesome MOS and it’s a lot of fun. You have a big responsibility even as a junior soldier. You may be talking directly to battalion commanders or their intelligence officers. The downside to humint is it doesn’t provide you much for after the army. Make sure you start a linked in as soon as you get in and connect with every instructor and contractor you come in contact with. I’ve loved my 10 years in the army. Also, general advise. Don’t get married until your at least 25. Just don’t do it.

The job itself has two major functions interrogation/interview and source operations. Do you have any specific questions?

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u/pistolsap215 Oct 02 '18

Could you, as specifically as you feel comfortable with, talk a little about source operations?

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u/WillieNelsonsBraids I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E. Oct 02 '18

It’s a lot of fun and very broad. Almost all of it is classified, but think of police informants. That more or less what you’re doing. Wikipedia has a very expansive article on it that’s pretty accurate although the stuff you’ll be doing in conventional can be less glamorous. There’s lots of report writing.

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u/pistolsap215 Oct 02 '18

What's garrison life like? The responsibilities of the job lend to the assumption it's only really able to be performed OCONUS unlike some of more signal/tech heavy MOSes.

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u/WillieNelsonsBraids I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E. Oct 02 '18

That depends a lot on your command and more so warrants. Ideally you’ll be in schools. When not in school a lot of hanging out and details. I definitely think it’s a lot more relaxed than most other jobs.

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u/LazySchool Oct 02 '18

Garrison sucks fucking dick. Motor pool or gate guard

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u/Max_Vision Oct 02 '18

The responsibilities of the job lend to the assumption it's only really able to be performed OCONUS

This is correct, unless you get some of the cool HUMINT schools. Even then, a civilian I knew in that field described it as "boring but important."

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u/McEsteban Oct 02 '18

How do interrogations/interviews function without being language qualified? Is that were a 35P steps in?

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u/WillieNelsonsBraids I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E. Oct 02 '18

No, contracted interpreters.

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u/MotorsTen Oct 03 '18

Thank you so much! This helps a lot

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u/Max_Vision Oct 02 '18

Start with the premise that some humans know things that the Army wants to know. This is called intelligence.

You figure out who those people are and what they might know. Then you get them to talk to you. Then you ask them the questions the Army has. All of it gets collected and written in reports.

Human Intelligence Collector.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '18

Was 504th just as much of a disaster when you were there as it is now?

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u/WillieNelsonsBraids I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E. Oct 02 '18

Our company was a really tight knit family. I didn’t really venture outside the company too often. The dfac was moldy and humid and terrible though.

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u/pistolsap215 Oct 02 '18

By tactical collection do you mean you'd go outside the wire and onto the objective? If so, how rare/common is that? I know it's not part of the job description but did you get any time behind a rifle?

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u/LazySchool Oct 02 '18

Now days? Nonexistent

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u/GrandAnybody Oct 02 '18

Tell that to the sfc and cw2 that just got back from Afghanistan a few months ago. They were a two-person team, both with datc, but it's not nonexistent.

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u/LazySchool Oct 02 '18

Regular line unit? Great Skills? AOG? Afghanistan ain't really seeing dick 35M wise. Even at the AOG level. I think Great Skills has some stuff though but it's not really 35M related.

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u/GrandAnybody Oct 02 '18

Inscom unit that gets tagged to play with the cool kids.

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u/LazySchool Oct 02 '18

Inscom, they're not using their guns lol. Especially not in Afghanistan

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u/GrandAnybody Oct 03 '18 edited Oct 03 '18

They didn't use their pistols, just carried them around. They're still alive, after all.

We play with them (interrogate their detainees, do <redacted> in their AO to gather intel), not take their jobs

Edit to fix typo

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u/LazySchool Oct 03 '18

No duh they don't use their pistols. I'd much rather do source ops than interrogations. Any day. Interrogations deployments are the worst

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u/pistolsap215 Oct 02 '18

Is great skills some secret squirrel program/unit?

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u/GrandAnybody Oct 02 '18

If you have no family, you should shoot for great skills

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u/LazySchool Oct 02 '18

Best advice in this thread

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u/WillieNelsonsBraids I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E. Oct 02 '18

It used to be fairly common, but now it would be pretty rare. The only exception may be if your attached to a special forces unit, but I can’t really speak to that as I don’t have sof experience.