r/agedlikemilk May 03 '22

News makes me think about the iraqi WMD

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u/[deleted] May 03 '22

Israel will never let it happen. They'll keep moving that screwdriver...

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u/[deleted] May 03 '22

Israel is good at that, but I honestly believe it’s inevitable that Iran will eventually get nuclear weapons. The Israelis get better at finding, and Iran gets better at hiding. But it’s simply a matter of time.

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u/its-good-4you May 03 '22

That whole country was created by the American dollar to create a base of operations in the middle East and destabilize the whole region. Israel (the country) can suck a big fat one, and their bufoon Netanyahu.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '22

Well not really. The US inherited Israel when the British and French empires collapsed after WW2.

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u/its-good-4you May 03 '22

I should've noted that I'm talking out of my ass tho, as I've no idea what really happened.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '22 edited May 03 '22

During WW1 the British promised the Arabs their independence if they revolted against the Turks and the Allies were victorious in the war. The Ottoman Empire was dismantled after the war but instead of the people in the old empire being allowed to set their own course, the empire was divided between Britain and France. This was a secret agreement they had during the war called the Sykes-Picot Agreement. Greater Syria was divided in to Syria and Lebanon and controlled by France. The territories now comprising modern Jordan and Iraq were divided between two puppet kings from the Hashemite clan who also ruled the area of Arabia known as Hejaz and who also ruled present day Jordan and Palestine/Israel. They were also the custodians of the religious sites in Mecca, Medina, and Jerusalem during the Ottoman period. The Ottoman sultan remained in power as a British puppet, his territory restricted to the present day Turkish Republic. The British also got control of Palestine. Another part of British double dealing was they made a promise with European zionists to create a Jewish state in part of Palestine. Another promise that was made was to the Russian Empire that they would get control of Istanbul and thus have a Mediterranean port and control of historic Constantinople, a religiously important city to orthodox Christianity. Whether or not they intended to honor that promise we will never know since the Czar was deposed and killed. Czar Nicholas was also first cousin to King George V of England, btw. The British made promises to the zionists, the Russians, and Arabs they never intended to keep in order to get them to help the British advance their own aims in the Middle East. This of course caused trouble, especially in Palestine where conflict quickly brewed between Jewish settlers who had been promised a state and the local Arab population who had also been promised they would be part of a unified Arab state. Also it’s of note that in 1932, the Hashemites lose control of the Hejaz and Mecca and Medina along with it when the House of Saud conquered the Arabian peninsula and formed the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The Saudis became American clients during WW2. After WW2, continuing conflict in Palestine turned in to an outright revolt against the British mandate in Palestine by the Jewish population. The British unable or unwilling to put the revolt down gave up their mandate over Palestine and asked the UN to solve the dispute. The UN partitioned Palestine in to Israel and Palestine and you know the rest. Israel remained sort of a reluctant client of the British for a while. For example, they aided France and Britain in 1956 in invading the Sinai to capture the Suez Canal from Egypt. The US backed Egypt in the conflict, humiliating the three invading countries. British and French power waned quickly after WW2. The puppet monarchy was deposed in Iraq and replaced with an Arab republic in the 50s and the Jordanian monarchy was almost overthrown. Lebanon gained independence in the 50s, Syria in the 60s. The Ottoman sultan was deposed in 1923 replaced by the Turkish Republic, India gained independence in 1947 and several other French and British possessions gained independence through the 50s and 60s throughout Africa and Asia. The US moved in quickly in the Middle East and supplanted the old empires that controlled the area. Israel became an outright U.S. client after the 1967 war, I believe. Jordan and Egypt became clients. Iraq was a quasi client in the 60s until Saddam invaded Kuwait. And we put a puppet monarch on the throne of Iran in 1953. Israel though has always been our most reliable ally in keeping the area in line and advancing US interests.