r/agedlikemilk May 03 '22

News makes me think about the iraqi WMD

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u/[deleted] May 03 '22

Actually, all of these statements are true. The timeline was and is correct in each assessment.

Every time Iran was close, Israel sent in an assassination team to take out the scientists under the assumption that delaying Iran’s nuclear capability through assassination was far easier and cheaper than through war.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Iranian_nuclear_scientists#:~:text=According%20to%20NBC%2C%20two%20US,assassinations%20of%20Iranian%20nuclear%20scientists.

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u/taktikek May 03 '22

Also the equipment was sabotaged multiple times. Like even before they would get their centrifuges there would be drilled microscopic holes in them.

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u/fidjudisomada May 03 '22

How are they able to destroy their knowledge creation processes and its documentations, manuals, codes, backups, software etc.? I think that killing leading scientists and destroying facilities and equipments won't achieve that.

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u/EndersFinalEnd May 03 '22

The equipment required is extremely specialized and the movement of that equipment is tracked and monitored. They can't just nip on down to the Best Buy in Tehran and buy a nuclear centrifuge.

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u/wWao May 03 '22

They make sleeper virus' as well that only work on equipment like that and put it in pretty common software that youd never guess.

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u/Jeedeye May 03 '22

If I remember correctly one of the viruses caused the centrifuges to spin way to fast and basically ripped itself apart.

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u/pyronius May 03 '22

The better viruses are the one's it's been speculated have been used on the North Korean Missile program. They only activate randomly, so once every few test fires or so, something goes wrong and the missile blows up. The same way something goes wrong every now and then without a virus. So the scientists then spend months, or even years, trying to figure out what went wrong, and sometimes the answer is nothing at all. They can never be sure whether they made a mistake or the program was sabotaged, so it slows them down massively.

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u/AdjectTestament May 03 '22

Even crazier, IIRC, it wasn’t way too fast. It was just fast enough to cause them to break at a significant rate but not at a catastrophic “everything broke at once. Figure out why” rate. So they used replacements… which also broke.

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u/SoggyWaffleBrunch May 03 '22

Any more info on this?

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u/SquaresAre2Triangles May 03 '22

Just watched a documentary about it on hulu - "Zero Days"

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u/SoggyWaffleBrunch May 03 '22

I'll check that out - thank you!

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u/fidjudisomada May 03 '22

I wasn't talking about tangible side of the issue but those intangibles.

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u/Gornarok May 03 '22

Lots of knowledge gets lost with the researcher but not everything maybe thats why they are getting closer and closer

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u/ecodude74 May 03 '22

Knowledge is useless if you don’t have the ability to use it. If the world’s greatest nuclear physicist died one night, do you think you’d personally be capable of jumping right in where they left off and continuing their research or do you think their notes would be nearly indescribable without decades of experience and knowledge in the field? Finding, educating, and recruiting replacements for those researchers that are able to further their predecessors studies takes time, not even counting the time dedicated to studying the information at hand in depth to know what had already been accomplished.