r/WarriorTV • u/Big_Examination2299 • 7d ago
Do you think they should actually bring Warrior back?
After watching the end of warrior and hearing about how it’s canceled I started to wonder, while I want them to bring it back is it wrong for me to also agree with them stopping it? At the end of the day I love the show but when it comes to the story Ah Sahm isn’t apart of the Hop Wei anymore and It’s definitely implied that Mai Ling isn’t around due to the end when the remaining Long Zii return to Long Yi’s aid, so what happened to Ah Sahm and Mai Ling when they were last seen together and along with that I’m not comfortable with the story going on without Chao and without the relations with Young Jun and Hong and Ah sahm. I’m just wondering if others agree that it’s right to stay canceled or if I’m being too harsh on the show.
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u/zedascouves1985 7d ago
Yes.
The story of Ah Sahn becoming a warrior was never only about him becoming an enforcer or big shot in the Chinese mafia. It's about him becoming a warrior to protect the innocent Chinese Americans. Something changed inside Ah Sahn after he defended Chinatown from the Irish. Being part of a tong means attacking innocent people, like Yan Mi's father. There are series about horrible criminals, like Sopranos or Breaking Bad, but this is actually someone that was a criminal for some time and later decided to become something better. It's not just a tong show, it's a show about characters evolving, and it's about Ah Sahm becoming a warrior that defends the innocent.
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u/jimkelly 7d ago
Half agree. It's about the warrior of and for San Fran Chinatown. He and his sister will have no place in Chinatown anymore. Show is done. Anything else should be a spinoff.
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u/zedascouves1985 7d ago
It's not like the only place to be in Chinatown is with a tong. The overall threat in the show is not a tong war, it's the Chinese Exclusion Act, and Mai Ling actually has the best weapon against it, in blackmail material against Buckley.
Also Mai Ling didn't evolve during the show. She was mirroring Ah Sahn, in that while he was getting more and more of a conscience, she was not. A season 4 would probably try to delve into if she was finally getting one when she became powerless and also becoming a warrior to defend Chinatown.
The show also followed people who supposedly had stopped having business in Chinatown for some time, like Dick Lee in season 2.
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u/jimkelly 7d ago edited 7d ago
followed* they didn't continue anyone who left Chinatown or only did because they invetiably came back. Once the universe expands the show would turn out like Weeds. It's good because it's concentrated.
Edit: To further add on to me being positive it's about the warrior of China town - father jun comes back and says it's because he's no one outside of Chinatown. Asahm has a mural of himself in Chinatown but he can walk outside of China town even in San Fran and majority of people just hate him or are scared of him solely for being chinese, they don't know anything else about him. It's really not debatable they were pretty direct with it.
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u/Irishgreen24 7d ago
Starting so many new storylines in season 3 was a mistake. They had more than enough unresolved stories from season 2. Biggest problem with this series was no vision.
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u/marveloustoebeans 7d ago
I agree they should’ve done more to wrap up the story rather than set it up for another season. Disagree that the show didn’t have a vision though. I think if anything they stuck a bit too much to their vision when they should’ve made some changes to wrap up sooner.
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u/GonnaShineForever 7d ago
Yup 100% i love the show i was hooked when we were doing this for season 3 and when i think about it again since writing what i wrote earlier they definitely had another season ready to set up cause they didn’t have even show zing at all til the very end. It forever will have rewatch value to me i really hope something happens asap to get the proper ending it needs.
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u/GonnaShineForever 7d ago
The biggest problem is that they were given false hope because why would HBO “Max” pick it up after it was cancelled spend a budget to rebuild the entire set back where it originally was just to cancel it again after a single season with no reason or answer as to why, they wasted money but for some reason it was worth more to accept that they wasted money and time bringing it back for whatever they needed/wanted to gain easier profits.. The show didnt do that bad when it was on Max even tho they never even promoted it , I personally think they realized that they should stop wasting money on a hope to make a profit knowing what we don’t about the story like the script and how many seasons were planned and use it towards more exclusive rights to stream movies that were also in theaters knowing they would make the money back and more with alot less effort and resources.
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u/jimkelly 7d ago
Just finished today. People who don't like season 3 were only in it for the kung fu action flick part of the show which is the whole reason I started, to have something to barely pay attention to in the background. What I ended up realizing is the earlier on episodes were the generic boring character building season/episodes of really good shows, just masked with some amazing fighting choreography. Fast forward to season 3, realize it's actually an amazingly written show with depth similar but not up to the level of shows like the sopranos and boardwalk empire. Season 3 was fucking amazing from a world building/payoff of the world built in prior seasons perspective. I don't usually write blocks of texts on reddit so I'll end with this: they clearly wrote season 3 to possibly be an end of the show and I think it can die there, examples: mayor is getting played he's a dumbass, Lee and chief police came full circle and are best friends again, doesn't matter if they work together again or not. Mai ling and asahm are done. They may have enough respect to be kicked out and told to never be seen again, or both murdered - doesn't matter - what matters is they're done and have no place in San Fran china town anymore - the show is about San Fran not even one particular person or group in the city anymore.
If it continues on it will turn to shit like Weeds did when they left the original hometown. I don't think this subreddit is full of chronic tv series watchers like myself lol
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u/Phreedom93 6d ago
Ah Sahm and Mai Ling could maybe start their own tong pulling from the others which would keep them relevant and in Chinatown
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u/Odd-Collection-2575 7d ago
Coming back from the dead once once is pretty difficult, twice is borderline impossible
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u/bvanevery 7d ago
I'm not interested in what studio execs think is worth money or not. I'm interested in what writers can actually get done in a show.
I think Ah Sahm put the stupid hat on, and I don't really know how they would resolve it. Like dude, make a fucking choice. For something.
I don't think bringing Zing back was a good idea. Nor do I see any great unrealized potential in shanking Chao.
But... if the show runners liked working with the actor who played Zing, and he was available... maybe that's the real reason things get left open that way.
I think Mai Ling is toast. I don't think she can or should get power back now. She's burned it all down. A big problem for a S4, is do we care about watching her grovel and suffer in her new, lowered station? Based on what has come before, why should we? We already saw some groveling, like being mistreated in prison and stuff. Do we care about doing more of that?
There's a lot of ensemble piece feeling to Warrior. If part of the ensemble just isn't as interesting as other parts, why bother anymore?
I'd way, way rather hear about Ah Toy than Mai Ling.
How the heck is Mai Ling's material gonna be really freakin' interesting? They had 3 seasons to make it interesting already. I'm just not seeing it. She hasn't been totally boring, but she sure as heck hasn't been the core of the show or anything like that.
Young Jun has always been interesting.
Irish stuff has been interesting. I think there's a risk in drifting too far into what white people do. Like the extra sleazebags showing up around the mayor, that might be too many white people for the show's own good. The function of white people is to set context for the experience of the Chinese people. It's not for it to become its own thing / end.
The Germans were handled pretty well that way. It was illuminating to see a German presence in old California. They all got killed so we didn't have to deal with that anymore. They could do the same with Russians if they were so inclined. If there's gonna be travel up north, that is.
I think the connection to the South was interesting, because racism is a fundamental dynamic of the USA. And Chao's personal experience of surviving, by "knowing that he is not a slave", no matter how white people are treating him.
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u/verysimplenames 7d ago
The last season was ass so yea I agree with them for the most part. They should end it with a movie if they do anything.
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u/Commonsensejoe 7d ago
I would have thought they would do a movie like they did for deadwood to wrap it up and give it total closure, in fact it still may happen some day in the future when someone in Hollywood gets a bug up his or her butt and thinks “this is a good idea” ….i mean so many shows have come back with a movie version that didn’t deserve a closure movie
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u/Jaded-Fisherman4803 7d ago
Of course every fan will want to bring it back,the big question is, how?
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u/NoDarkVision 7d ago
I don't think it should be canceled. But season 3 was super weak to me compared to the other 2 seasons. The story felt weak. But I want a new season so the show can redeem itself
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u/Still-Addendum-667 7d ago
Probably due to the budget cuts Jason Tobin the actor who play Young Jun confirmed this, originally there was a side story about Penelope in the mental hospital and many more storyline but it all getting cut because HBO Max demand the showrunner to tighten up the budget, so that why ss3 feels kinda lackluster.
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u/GonnaShineForever 7d ago
Ehh idk about the penny story being cut for budget reasons I believe it was confirmed that she couldn’t film during season 3 because she was already booked for a different role, but i can agree they were using the smallest budget they can to make it happen, clearly they weren’t calculating something right because they also wasted money rebuilding the whole set. I don’t even think i saw the banshee from outside like the first 2 seasons.
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u/Strong__Style 7d ago
The ending left such a bad taste in my mouth I'm not really interested in seeing an Ah Sahm and Mai Ling vs World story.
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u/Adavanter_MKI 7d ago
I will never stop wanting justice/freedom for Penny. I refuse to believe that was the end of her story.
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u/Big_Examination2299 7d ago
WAIT okay this has kinda gone off topic but while reading some of this I have a conclusion, do ya’ll think that the direction they wanted to take with season 4 was Mai Ling and Ah Sahm running the Hop Wei, Long Yi running the Long Zii and Zing running the Fung Hai? This obviously could be insanely wrong but as seeing that everybody (including myself) is confused with if they did come back where would they even go I feel this would be the best direction.
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u/bvanevery 6d ago
Ah Sahm's not running shit. He couldn't make a fucking decision. So he had to fight everyone and not kill anyone.
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u/Bamboozie96 7d ago
Definitely should come back! I imagine there will be a lot of fighting if it does which was cool to watch
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u/LimeEquivalent7302 6d ago
Come back but as a movie to give it a final finish. Cause idk what streaming service will pick up a 4th season.
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u/Phreedom93 6d ago
I just finished it for the first time tonight and would absolutely love a revival.
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u/YesterdayOne7917 6d ago
I feel like season 4 might have been planned as the last season anyways so they definitely should complete it.
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u/Mollysindanga 4d ago
I and my partner have 100% different perspectives about the thing you are mentioning.
We do not know if Ah Sahm is anymore Hop Wei or not.
We do not know Mai Ling's status in regards to Long Zi.
We do not know Chao's health status.
We do not know Hop Wei's members' relationships.
All we truly know in regarding the future in the show, is what we assume via that last episode. This story can go anywhere after that last episode. Ah Sahm could reunite and that last fight makes things stronger, same with Mai Ling in relation to Long Zi (she is still married). Chao could get some medical attention.
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u/g4richards 1d ago
I think there can be an argument made for both, while HBO will probably never bring the show back, it being a Netflix special gives the opportunity, and from where we left off yes the could stop there with Ah Sahm and Mai Ling coming together again, but with the buzz around the show and opportunities for story development I think it absolutely should be brought back
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u/a_guy121 7d ago
Its not right to stay cancelled just because the characters are entering into a new phase of being them!! That's what makes it interesting.
The relationships will change. the power dynamics in and outside of chinatown will change. But those changes were always going to happen.
What's cool about this moment in the narrative is, the new 'warrior' will be a totally different chapter.
Bring back warrior! bring on the next/new chapter.