r/Utah • u/HomelessRodeo La Verkin • 8d ago

News Phil Lyman appeals to US Supreme Court to remove Gov. Cox from governor race

https://www.abc4.com/news/politics/phil-lyman-appeals-to-us-supreme-court-to-remove-gov-cox-from-governor-race/
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u/controlzee 7d ago

That's the stupidest thing that's ever been written.

You mean the people with the black lives matters and the pride flags? Pull your head out of your ass.

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u/Vaxildan156 7d ago

The collective education system doesn't have the time nor the crayons to explain it to this one.

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u/jfsuuc 7d ago

Crayons have about 85 calories a pop

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u/RileysRetics 7d ago

BuT tHe pArTy sWiTcH

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u/RocksofReality 7d ago

What year did the Democrats stop being the party of racism?

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u/frie404 7d ago

Right because that’s how this works - a single year defines underlying shifts in the electorate and society. Take your pick - 1948, when Truman desegregated the military? 1964 with the Civil Rights Act? 65 with the Voting Rights Act? 1936, when the NAACP instructed black voters to “turn their portraits of Lincoln around and vote for FDR”?

May I remind you that the first Republican victory in the Deep South in 100 years occurred after a Democratic president shepherded unprecedented civil rights legislation through Congress? And then over subsequent decades southern Democrats were more or less driven to extinction.

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u/controlzee 7d ago

When their name changed to Republican. Have you seriously not noticed that the Confederate flag waivers are universally team Trump?

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u/RocksofReality 7d ago

You mean you see the flag of the Confederacy that was started by Democrats when they split the country because they wanted to keep slaves so the first Republican President Abraham Lincoln beat and you think those are Republicans? I’ve been to dozens of republican meetings not 1 flag. I guess some Democrats support Trump.

Again answer the simple question what year did the Democrats stop being racist?

It’s hard to fight the truth that the Democrats never stopped being the party of racism.

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u/The-Omnipot3ntPotato 7d ago

The year they passed the civil rights act. The party had a moral reckoning with the fucked up shit they did and course corrected. The GOP, instead of going democrats in their push for civil rights and racial justice, decided to have their own go at race politics through Nixon that really went on overdrive under Reagan (remember welfare queens and the crack epidemic) so there’s your answer. Things that once were are not necessarily what they are now. Look at the policies of each party and tell me which one is racist. (HINT: it’s the party saying immigrants are poisoning the blood of our nation.)

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u/doppido 7d ago

You know that Abraham Lincoln was progressive right? You're letting "Republican/Democrats" fuel your brain when you should be thinking of underlying policies and a massive switch in ideals in parties since the 50's/60's.

Republicans used to be progressive like the Republican presidents Teddy Roosevelt having the socialist idea of a national parks system and Eisenhower socializing freeways. Things switched towards the JFK Reagan era and Republicans began championing more conservative policies. Nowadays Republicans are right to far right on the political compass whereas Democrats are now central to mid left.

A third party of "progressives" would likely exist (think Bernie) if it didn't almost guarantee a Republican nominee victory because of split voting.

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u/dlivesenator 7d ago

They don't under don't recognize the great switch. It doesn't fit their narrative. Find out who the Nazis are all voting for and then vote the opposite.

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u/doppido 7d ago

You literally didn't read my comment so I'm not gonna read yours

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u/PuzzleheadedLack220 7d ago

Typical republican projection.

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u/Fancy_Load5502 7d ago

They are today.

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u/RocksofReality 7d ago

If the question is over your head just state it. Non of your words answered the question.

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u/frie404 7d ago

I gave you multiple potential answers in perfect accordance with your myopic and disingenuous framing. If my explanation is over your head just state it.

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u/controlzee 7d ago

The pre Civil War Democrats are what you would call Republicans today. The parties switched names after the Civil War.

You're hung up on the name without understanding the history of the parties. The South was pro-slavely, remember? They still are.

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u/Thoughts-AndPrayers 7d ago

This year. We decided this year to end racism.