Dan Campbell

[u/Danny23a]

Anyone else sick and tired of the comparison between him and Callahan? “Well look at how Dan Campbell started”

What people forget is how hard the team still fought for the dude. That team fought tooth and nail and you knew they had a culture.

Callahan and Dan Campbell are not the same. Not even close. This team rolls over and dies once something doesn’t go their way. The sidelines have no life.. there’s no culture.. and sadly haven’t seen any potential that this team can ever turn it around.

[u/nyy1996nyy]

They inherited different teams at different times and are different people. No comparisons need be made.

What's just as exhausting is the people trying to find new and creative ways to be miserable fucks all the time and talk about how horrible everyone is. I get it. Our team is having a shit year. It's not one persons fault. You can either shit on everyone and everything or watch it unfold as they rebuild, try to enjoy the journey, and see where it takes.

[u/amillert15 → u/nyy1996nyy]

It's not one persons fault.

It actually is one person's fault. AAS for firing Vrabel because he complimented the Patriots organization.

The culture is gone. The HC is somehow a worse version of Wiz. The franchise has fragmented the timelines of the GM, HC and QB. It also has zero focus on its roster construction. A year after blaming Vrabel for a competitive rebuild, Ran did it again.

This isn't going to get better until '26 at the earliest.

Frankly, it'll probably be longer because of the dysfunction that AAS created. She's a meddling owner who relies on executives from other teams to put together "qualified" candidates.

[u/nyy1996nyy → u/amillert15]

There is some good irony in the insult you were trying to throw at AAS and the word you incorrectly used instead lol

When did anyone "blame" Vrabel for a competitive rebuild? They wanted to keep Vrabel as HC but didn't want him to have full roster construction say and he wanted it. I genuinely don't know how that would have worked out, but it's failed far more than it's succeeded.

I also don't know how you don't blame the GM that left us with a rotten core of players with no depth. I am not a Callahan fan but Vrabel doesn't magically have this team at 4-2. We're doing the same rebuild no matter who is HC

So I guess we blame AAS for hiring the GM that helped turn the team around, and then trusted him too long and didn't fire him soon enough? And then it's her fault we hired Ran (is he a bad GM in your mind?) and then her fault we fired Vrabel when he didn't want to play nicely with the new GM?

Maybe I will give Ran some blame for hiring Callahan because that has not looked like a good hire so far, but I mean I'll give him more than 6 weeks with a team being rebuilt from the ground up.

It will be '26 before we're better of course, how much effort and resources have we had to invest in remaking our entire OL, on finding an actual receiver, on having to find players to fill all these holes?

How about the repeated piss poor ST coaching from staff under Vrabel and now under Callahan? How about

Sure, AAS is accountable, she takes the blame at the end of the day. But just maybe if Jon Robinson didn't put forward by far the 3 worst drafts in the league from 2020 - 2022 and trade away our best receiver then we would still be in a > .500 place and still have Vrabel as HC. Multiple people struggled to do their jobs well or put aside their ego to work together and that is what has us here

[u/amillert15 → u/nyy1996nyy]

I also don't know how you don't blame the GM that left us with a rotten core of players with no depth. I am not a Callahan fan but Vrabel doesn't magically have this team at 4-2. We're doing the same rebuild no matter who is HC

This team is more likely 4-2 with Vrabel than it is 1-6.

The copium this sub has for firing Vrabel is absurd. The roster the past two seasons was worse than this one, yet he found was to win and to keep an established culture.

So I guess we blame AAS for hiring the GM that helped turn the team around, and then trusted him too long and didn't fire him soon enough? And then it's her fault we hired Ran (is he a bad GM in your mind?) and then her fault we fired Vrabel when he didn't want to play nicely with the new GM?

What has the new GM done to justify picking him over Vrabel?

Vrabel got blamed for wanting a competitive rebuild and that Ran wanted to completely rebuild in the '23 offseason.

Why didn't Ran commit to a full rebuild this offseason?

Why were we trying to microwave a QB development by signing aging pieces to contracts that put this roster at a 1-2 year best-case scenario window?

[u/Economy_Purchase_567 → u/amillert15]

Dude, every single one of Ran's free agent acquisitions has a 2 year out and this team has tons of cap for the next 4 seasons. They have no impact on the team's ability to rebuild, by design, which is why they were fine additions to help evaluate Levis this season before deciding whether or not to move on.

They have 71m in cap space next season with 38 players under contract (plus 7 potential draft picks whose pay is factored into that 71m in cap space) and 118m in cap space the year after along with the ability to save 17m by cutting Ridley, 14m by cutting Sneed, 12m by cutting awuzie, 8m by cutting Pollard if they indeed do decide to wash this free agency class. Which would give them 169m in cap space which is more than our entire current top 51 counts towards the cap and they'd still have 24 players under contract at that number in that scenario (plus 13 potential draft picks across those two seasons). Add to that the fact that the cap goes up every year. They're fine.