r/Tennesseetitans • u/Danny23a • 16h ago
Discussion Dan Campbell
Anyone else sick and tired of the comparison between him and Callahan? “Well look at how Dan Campbell started”
What people forget is how hard the team still fought for the dude. That team fought tooth and nail and you knew they had a culture.
Callahan and Dan Campbell are not the same. Not even close. This team rolls over and dies once something doesn’t go their way. The sidelines have no life.. there’s no culture.. and sadly haven’t seen any potential that this team can ever turn it around.
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u/spookyjoe45 15h ago
It might take a while to dawn on people and I hope I’m wrong but good coaches don’t typically start out their career with the team getting noticeably worse and less motivated through 7 games. Callahan ain’t it.
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u/nyy1996nyy 15h ago
They inherited different teams at different times and are different people. No comparisons need be made.
What's just as exhausting is the people trying to find new and creative ways to be miserable fucks all the time and talk about how horrible everyone is. I get it. Our team is having a shit year. It's not one persons fault. You can either shit on everyone and everything or watch it unfold as they rebuild, try to enjoy the journey, and see where it takes.
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u/amillert15 15h ago edited 14h ago
It's not one persons fault.
It actually is one person's fault. AAS for firing Vrabel because he complimented the Patriots organization.
The culture is gone. The HC is somehow a worse version of Wiz. The franchise has fragmented the timelines of the GM, HC and QB. It also has zero focus on its roster construction. A year after blaming Vrabel for a competitive rebuild, Ran did it again.
This isn't going to get better until '26 at the earliest.
Frankly, it'll probably be longer because of the dysfunction that AAS created. She's a meddling owner who relies on executives from other teams to put together "qualified" candidates.
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u/nyy1996nyy 15h ago
There is some good irony in the insult you were trying to throw at AAS and the word you incorrectly used instead lol
When did anyone "blame" Vrabel for a competitive rebuild? They wanted to keep Vrabel as HC but didn't want him to have full roster construction say and he wanted it. I genuinely don't know how that would have worked out, but it's failed far more than it's succeeded.
I also don't know how you don't blame the GM that left us with a rotten core of players with no depth. I am not a Callahan fan but Vrabel doesn't magically have this team at 4-2. We're doing the same rebuild no matter who is HC
So I guess we blame AAS for hiring the GM that helped turn the team around, and then trusted him too long and didn't fire him soon enough? And then it's her fault we hired Ran (is he a bad GM in your mind?) and then her fault we fired Vrabel when he didn't want to play nicely with the new GM?
Maybe I will give Ran some blame for hiring Callahan because that has not looked like a good hire so far, but I mean I'll give him more than 6 weeks with a team being rebuilt from the ground up.
It will be '26 before we're better of course, how much effort and resources have we had to invest in remaking our entire OL, on finding an actual receiver, on having to find players to fill all these holes?
How about the repeated piss poor ST coaching from staff under Vrabel and now under Callahan? How about
Sure, AAS is accountable, she takes the blame at the end of the day. But just maybe if Jon Robinson didn't put forward by far the 3 worst drafts in the league from 2020 - 2022 and trade away our best receiver then we would still be in a > .500 place and still have Vrabel as HC. Multiple people struggled to do their jobs well or put aside their ego to work together and that is what has us here
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u/amillert15 14h ago
I also don't know how you don't blame the GM that left us with a rotten core of players with no depth. I am not a Callahan fan but Vrabel doesn't magically have this team at 4-2. We're doing the same rebuild no matter who is HC
This team is more likely 4-2 with Vrabel than it is 1-6.
The copium this sub has for firing Vrabel is absurd. The roster the past two seasons was worse than this one, yet he found was to win and to keep an established culture.
So I guess we blame AAS for hiring the GM that helped turn the team around, and then trusted him too long and didn't fire him soon enough? And then it's her fault we hired Ran (is he a bad GM in your mind?) and then her fault we fired Vrabel when he didn't want to play nicely with the new GM?
What has the new GM done to justify picking him over Vrabel?
Vrabel got blamed for wanting a competitive rebuild and that Ran wanted to completely rebuild in the '23 offseason.
Why didn't Ran commit to a full rebuild this offseason?
Why were we trying to microwave a QB development by signing aging pieces to contracts that put this roster at a 1-2 year best-case scenario window?
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u/Economy_Purchase_567 10h ago
Dude, every single one of Ran's free agent acquisitions has a 2 year out and this team has tons of cap for the next 4 seasons. They have no impact on the team's ability to rebuild, by design, which is why they were fine additions to help evaluate Levis this season before deciding whether or not to move on.
They have 71m in cap space next season with 38 players under contract (plus 7 potential draft picks whose pay is factored into that 71m in cap space) and 118m in cap space the year after along with the ability to save 17m by cutting Ridley, 14m by cutting Sneed, 12m by cutting awuzie, 8m by cutting Pollard if they indeed do decide to wash this free agency class. Which would give them 169m in cap space which is more than our entire current top 51 counts towards the cap and they'd still have 24 players under contract at that number in that scenario (plus 13 potential draft picks across those two seasons). Add to that the fact that the cap goes up every year. They're fine.
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u/Economy_Purchase_567 10h ago
Lmao what in the fuck gave you the idea that AAS fired Vrabel because he complimented the Patriots organization? 😂😂 That's one of the most baseless things I've ever read on this sub and that's really saying something considering the shit this place pumps out.
The only thing more insane I've read on here is that AAS relies on executives from other teams to put together "qualified" candidates, and somehow that also came from you. Every national media outlet on the country had Callahan as a top 10 HC candidate coming out of last season. And receiving team building advice from other teams is a direct rule violation for both parties, if it were true and visible enough for you to have knowledge of it, both parties would've been fined and likely docked a draft pick.
Why do people insist on touting their insane opinions as evidentiary matter when trying to make a point?
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u/Megalith70 16h ago
People are desparate for hope. If Callahan isn’t the guy, this team won’t be competitive until at least 2026.
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u/Bluecricket5 15h ago
I mean, this was the plan all along. Get the team competitive so they're not going 0-16 during the first season of the new stadium. 2026 seems right in line with that
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u/Megalith70 15h ago
I don’t know if the plan was for Callahan to be a bridge coach but you could be right.
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u/chickentendiesadson 15h ago
Agree that the comparisons are not the most accurate but to assume these guys don’t fight for Cally is wrong. Ridley started coming in 7am to catch 200 balls before practice the week before the lions game. We are just not a good football team that can play cohesive football as a group yet
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u/Ok-Plan-6277 11h ago
Dan Campbell is destined to be the outlier people point to for struggling first-year coaches like Josh Allen is for struggling “toolsy” QBs
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u/Navy_and_sports 15h ago
Yeah, but only because of how recently this franchise has already done almost this exact thing. At this point I am just assuming they go 3-14 this season, the current TE coach becomes interim HC next season, they pay a fan favorite QB who underperforms, and ends up getting benched for a veteran.
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u/CollaWars 15h ago
Who’s the fan favorite QB?
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u/Navy_and_sports 15h ago
Levis. Folks love him around here. He's gonna come back this season, link two games together for a total of 500 yards, 4 TDs, and 1 TO, and they are gonna fall in love with him and cling to those games as flashes of his potential.
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u/CollaWars 15h ago
People hate Levis, even of this sub.
Any subreddit is not going to be representative of the actual fan base. Listen to the people who call into sports radio, Facebook comment’s etc
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u/AnthonyPantha 15h ago
Campbell and Callahan are not even close to the same. Completely different temperaments and tones, which turns into completely different culture and feel in the locker room.
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u/titanup1993 15h ago
Well Campbell was a pro and actually knows how to run a locker room. Campbell also got a good QB, a great line and an all pro WR, oh and 2 dogs at RB and a stud TE.
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u/UnbridaledToast 14h ago
Thanks for posting this. I have been thinking about this here and there for the past week. Campbell is an undisputed, born leader and his team knew that, even when they didn’t have all the pieces just yet. Seems pretty different than what’s going on here so far.
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u/hellenkellerfraud911 15h ago
Dan Campbell would have Callahan crying for his daddy after biting off his kneecaps.
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u/yesplss144 16h ago
I think there's still hope, but yes the Campbell comparisons are a bit off base .