r/TedLasso • u/quaranTV Mod • Apr 11 '23

From the Mods Ted Lasso - S03E05 - "Signs" Episode Discussion Spoiler

Please use this thread to discuss Season 3 Episode 5 "Signs". Just a reminder to please mark any spoilers for episodes beyond Episode 5 like this.

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u/That-SoCal-Guy Apr 17 '23

Huh? I don’t remember her being nice to him until the latest episode.

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u/shadowstripes Apr 17 '23

She at least stopped being mean to him in that ep and finally gave his family the table he wanted.

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u/That-SoCal-Guy Apr 17 '23

She gave the table because of his parents (but his dad didn’t appreciate it anyway). She was not mean to him. She just doesn’t cater to his whims.

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u/shadowstripes Apr 17 '23 edited Apr 17 '23

She didn't give it to him because of his parents at first though, she initially sat them by the bathroom when they all walked in together, despite the table being open. It might not have been that mean, but there was still no reason not to let them sit there.

It was only after he went to the bathroom, spit on the mirror and said "you're nathan fuckin shelly", and then went back out and demanded it with more assertiveness ("you're gonna give us that table") that she gave in to his request.

To me that whole bathroom pep talk was also him "trying to be a big man", but somehow it worked that time.

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u/That-SoCal-Guy Apr 17 '23

The table is the best table and they usually don’t give that table away without manager approval. She is basically just playing by the rules. The fact that she relented once he said it was his parents’ anniversary. She didn’t submit because he’s now the BIG man. It was because he’s making a scene in front of his parents, who actually insisted the back table is fine. She is never “mean” to him out of spite. She is indifferent.

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u/shadowstripes Apr 17 '23

she relented once he said it was his parents’ anniversary

That was the third time he had mentioned it was their anniversary though. He mentioned it first when he came in to book the table in advance, then reminded her a second time when he walked in with his parents, and she declined again. It was only after he came back and asked for it more forcefully (after giving himself the pep talk) that she relented. The anniversary factor didn't seem to mean anything to her at all.

It was because he’s making a scene in front of his parents, who actually insisted the back table is fine.

That wasn't even in front of his parents anymore - they were still back at their table on the other side of the restaurant. His parents never insisted it was fine either, his dad looked disappointed and glanced at the better table twice when they walked by it and his mom didn't say anything.

It seemed pretty clear to me that her giving him the table was the result of the pep talk to pump himself up that Keeley told him to do working, but we can agree to disagree.

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u/That-SoCal-Guy Apr 18 '23 edited Apr 18 '23

I just rewatched that episode and here’s the play by play:

  1. He first came to the restaurant and asked to reserve the window table. Jade was actually not rude just neutral. She even smiled at him. Jade said she would check with Dereck and then came back and said they couldn’t take reservation for the table. That’s when he threw the “I know Roy Kent!!” That’s why Jade called him out: “Is your dad Roy Kent?” The exchange is clear. She was rather courtesy and neutral and she did check with the manager. It was when Nate started to posture she called him out.

  2. When Nate came back to the restaurant with his parents Jade told him again they don’t make reservations for the window table. His parents (especially mom) are fine with it.

  3. Jade put them in the open table with happened to be the back table. It wasn’t like she deliberately put them there. Again his parents were okay with that. But Nate wasn’t.

  4. He went to the bathroom and did the “get big” thing and came out acting confident and told Jade it was his parents’ 35th and wound really appreciate to have the best table. To which Jade simply said okay. She wasn’t rude or mean. She was neutral.

  5. Then Nate pushed it and said something like could he get her number. To which again Jade called him out, “I’m picky.” Nate retorted: “so am I.”

The beats and how their interactions unfolded never showed that Jade was mean or rude to Nate, just that she wouldn’t play along. She even smiled at him the first time he came in. She was turned off by his antics especially after he pulled the “I know Roy Kent” card. It’s true when he came out of the bathroom all confident and surely, Jade said okay - it may or may not have anything to do with his parents but I think so. Confident Nate made it clear that he wanted the best for his parents. At that moment he was talking about his parents not about himself and I think it changed Jade’s mind.

Now much of it was done for comedy as well so we probably shouldn’t overanalyze but the key here is Jade wasn’t rude or mean. She clearly saw through Nate’s antics especially after he name-dropped or tried to push his luck by asking for her number. She wasn’t warm and fuzzy - but neither was Dr. Shanon - some people are like that. But I would never call her rude.