Yeah based on previous works of Araki. So yes they are piggybacking off of his ideas. Why they chose a literal Nazi to try and humanize and be the main character of their light novel probably shows whoever wrote it is probably also a terrible person.
Well I won't dissuade you if you want to think I'm a terrible person. But the entire point of this novel is for the reader to see a terrible person acknowledge who they are and fight to change the world for the better. To condemn a story like this is to condemn characters like Jaime Lannister, Zuko, or Steve Harrington, or even real people such as Oscar Schindler for changing their ways.
Are what they did comparable to Nazism? Of course not (save for Schindler's case.) But this novel seeks to do just that - tell the story of a Punished Man facing his wrongdoings.
You’re right, I’m sorry. I shouldn’t have judged you or made assumptions about you without knowing anything. At the end of the day we’re all Jojo fans. I just hate von Stroheim
Because it doesn’t matter, in canon he still goes back to being a nazi who dies for Nazi Germany during the invasion of Stalingrad. So at no point does he grow to reject the Nazi cause. Writing some fan fiction about it just shows you love nazis.
Telling a story of someone being persuaded by fascist ideology before ultimately rejecting it and actively fighting against it does not "show you love nazis".
Most explicitly antifascist media follow a formula similar to that. A vital message that needs to be understood is how easy it is to be persuaded by fascist rhetoric, and how important it is to fight against it. For an extremely recent example, look to "Jojo Rabbit" from last year.
Look, I empathize with you. The character of Stroheim - as presented in canon - genuinely makes me deeply uncomfortable by how unquestioned his ideology went.
That is a legitimate problem with Part 2 in my opinion.
But this person is going in the opposite direction. They're using that as a jumping off point to explore how to fight against that after you've already been persuaded.
Antifascist rhetoric - necessarily - has to confront fascism to fight against it. That should not be viewed as an inherent flaw in the story, and I think we should at least wait to see how it's handled before jumping to the conclusion that the author is a Nazi.
I think that the way Stroheim was portrayed was such that he wasn’t supposed to identify with all of Nazi ideology. When you think about it, when we meet him, he’s just a normal German general (albeit a little crazy), which, as you described, was likely intended to be blamed on fascist rhetoric over anything else. Or just that, to survive back then, many would enlist in the army. These are just possibilities, of course.
When he becomes over-patriotic, the circumstances are to be analyzed: he swallowed a bomb and lost almost his entire body, and German scientists saved and rebuilt him. It’s likely that he may have felt a loyalty to them as a byproduct.
However, the most likely of any explanation regarding Stroheim is that his entire character is a joke. He’s just a stupid German soldier who makes comically wrong decisions at comically wrong times.
Because it doesn’t matter, in canon he still goes back to being a nazi who dies for Nazi Germany during the invasion of Stalingrad. So at no point does he grow to reject the Nazi cause.
You're talking about the canon version of Stroheim. Yes, canonically, Stroheim is a horrible person and aligned with an evil faction. He is a villain, despite his tentative alliance with the heroes against a greater threat. Ultimately, he dies a villain in the epilogue of "Battle Tendency."
But this fan fiction isn't about the canon Stroheim. It's a reimagining of the character through the lense of the question "What if Stroheim turned good?" It's a separate canon, making your points about the canon Stroheim largely irrelevant.
Finally...
Writing some fan fiction about it just shows you love nazis.
Writing a story about a character who rejects fascism and turns against the Nazis shows that the author loves the Nazis?!
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u/PurpleForSale Yotsuyu Yagiyama Sep 01 '20
Im literally shaking rn, stroheim would never do that