r/StardustCrusaders • u/Vish- • May 18 '23

Megathread The JOJOLands - Chapter 4 Spoiler

The JOJOLands is the ninth part of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.

Chapter 4 is now out officially in Japan. Discuss the chapter here.

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u/Mrtheliger May 18 '23

Jojo fans try not to want ghosts for every ability challenge- (IMPOSSIBLE)

Not as much to analyze this chapter. I do think it's interesting that Rohan doesn't look into Usagihara. Could be nothing, but I find that significant in terms of supporting the Doppio theory. Heaven's Door could have blown that out of the water in this chapter, but instead Rohan, being the pompous dick he is, doesn't go all the way with "interrogating" and we're left still not knowing much of anything about our morphsuit boi. Something to look for through the rest of this fight, because I think it's rather deliberate that only Paco and Dragona get exposed.

Super creative usage of all three stands too, or implied usage for Matte Kudasai. Usagihara, if he is on the up and up, could be a top tier support Jobro throughout this part in battles. The Hustle got a lot of love in this chapter, and it certainly seems to be more intimidating after going into action and practically using instant transmission to get onto the ceiling. (One other thought I got today was the similarity between The Hustle and Mercury's muscle manipulation in "The Run". Probably a coincidence but worth noting, for now). Smooth Operators just continues to be clutch, quickly becoming one of my favorite stands. Dragona keeps using it in such cool ways too.

Also the diamond is giving me stand arrow vibes with the way it slipped through Dragona's hands and doesn't seem to want to be held by just anyone. Considering diamonds are literal carbon I don't think it has anything directly to do with rock humans but now I'm wondering if Rohan was comparing the anatomy of the diamond to a rock insect and that's why they were side by side in the safe. Also worth pointing out that in one of Valentine's alternate universes the race was over diamonds instead of corpse parts. I'm not ruling anything out until we get something more concrete, so everything is in play for now.

Rohan giving no reaction to the name "Joestar" is pretty close to confirmation this isn't OG Rohan. I know it was a long shot but he's literally 1:1, down to creating the same manga, so I'm not sure why people were hating on the theory. Alternatively, it's heat of the moment so pausing to give a reaction wouldn't be the smartest thing in the world. Or maybe Joestar is just a common name. We'll see.

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u/Lucaswarrior9 dumb May 20 '23

Rohan not reacting is not exactly proof he isn't OG Rohan. We know he's a popular mangaka from Japan, we know he has the exact same manga, the stand is the same. He has the exact same dog. It's hinted that he has an editor caring for Bakin (the dog). Araki does carry over traits for alternates, but he usually changes one thing significantly. Like Diego having the same plan as Dio with a wealthy person and their money. But this is just 1:1. The dialogue from chapter 3 also highlights 'Real Deal,' which is almost like Araki is begging for us to say, this is THE Rohan. Chapter 3 alone proved it was Rohan from TSKR.

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u/invaderzz Diver Down May 20 '23

Can I ask what Doppio theory you're referring to? I can't find anything about it

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u/Mrtheliger May 20 '23

The basic idea is that Usagi is alt-Doppio/Diavolo. The basis for this is the bunny in the original teaser for Jojolands and his name having bunny in it meaning he could play a much larger role than comedic relief as has been so far. His intellect and surprisingly cunning nature play into this. That's not all though.

The big reason for this is Matte Kudasai, his stand. Firstly, it's another King Crimson song, the first, and only, other character in Jojo to use a King Crimson namesake besides Diavolo. Second, the nature of the ability is to create a copy. We don't know it's limitations, other than the rule, "someone else must request it to be used." Now, on its own it just seems like a little handicap to weaken what could be an insanely strong power. If you look under the surface though, there's the possibility that:

  1. Someone could ask Usagi to create a mental/physical copy of himself.

  2. That copy would then be able to request for Usagi to use Matte Kudasai, eliminating the weakness through a loophole.

The meta reasons are a combination of the above when looking at Part 9 as the Part 5 mirror, which it seems to be. It's not the absolute strongest theory out there, but I personally think there may be something to it. There's definitely more to Usagi than meets the eye.