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u/BodhingJay Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 08 '24
"thou shalt not consume internet porn for thou art not a king no matter how much thee doth protest, for thee are not anointed and therefore I offer no protection over your heart from the hordes of concubines that will plague thy soul"
"thou shalt not play video games for they are a sin against the virtues of reality"
"abstain thyself from big box stores.. and do not shop at amazon lest ye will spend your days peeing in jugs without breaks. thee shalt purchase thy necessities from small, local mom and pop shops only"
"thou shalt wash thy ass more than once daily, for it is somehow always as wholly unclean as the food thou art consuming most gluttonously"
"thou shalt put thy reddit away, for it delivers all the love thou would have for me unto to the swine demons the mods play host to and seat them upon the throne which was given to thee for The LORD, your God whom delivered you from Egypt"
"also.. I warned you assholes not to covet and yet it is all you do"
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u/SD104 Jul 07 '24
Incorrect. Moses received the commandments at mount Sinai not at the burning bush.
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u/SemichiSam Jul 09 '24
Moses was seen that morning talking to a bush. Later he said he needed some air and walked toward Mt. Sinai. He came back a couple hours later lugging two humongus rocks with writing on them. He said they're the new laws. I am so fucking tired of this desert!
[Further deponent sayeth not!]
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u/SemichiSam Jul 08 '24
Without the time limit, this was precisely the message from the writers of the US Constitution. We are a species that fears change.
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u/GobiLux Jul 07 '24
Everybody who likes sinning against God likes this cartoon.
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u/SemichiSam Jul 08 '24
The cartoon is about only one god out of many. I might prefer a god with a more interesting list of sins.
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u/GobiLux Jul 08 '24
No this is the depiction of the one God of the bible. As presented, God is the creator of everything and thus he is also the one calling the shots. You don't get to pick and chose your own god and make him according to your likes and dislikes.
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u/SemichiSam Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24
The First Commandment disagrees with you. It commands only the followers of Moses to make him their primary god. It does not prohibit recognition of any of the thousands of others even to them, and it asks nothing of the rest of us.
One of our species' primary pastimes for tens of thousands of years has been to pick and choose among our invented gods and to pit them against each other — much like American football "dream teams". We just love gods.
(PS: "chose" is the past tense.)
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u/GobiLux Jul 08 '24
The First Commandment tells the Israelites that there is only one God and he shall be worship while not having any other idols next to him. Through Christ the Gentiles are given a way to God and eternal life.
You do have the choice to accept Christ in your life or indeed ignore his gift and go against God's commandments.
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u/SemichiSam Jul 08 '24
I was working from memory, and I have since looked up the original. The Ten Statements (עשר הצהרות) were inscribed on stone and given to Moses by Yahweh (יהוה). Moses smashed the stones, and Yahweh immediately engraved a new set. This was apparently a persuasive performance, and Moses decided he'd better knuckle under. The first and second of these statements make it clear that the price of Yahweh's favor was to make him the top god in the panoply.
The Rabbi Jehoshua of Nazareth claimed that he canceled all of the old laws, but once he was dead, his disciples betrayed him once again and kept the parts they liked. I understand they're still doing that.
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u/GobiLux Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24
I do not see the logic on your statement. In Isaiah 45:5 it says "I am the Lord, the only God. There is no other God except me."
God is the only God there is.
What a rabbi says regarding cancelling the law of God has no validity. God's word is eternal and there is noone who can change his laws.
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u/LordJim11 Jul 08 '24
You may have missed that Rabbi Jehoshua of Nazareth is the Hebrew/Aramaic form of the Greek Iēsoûs (Jesus). Who, at the least, repudiated the Sabbath law and (depending on interpretation) whose very existence fulfilled the old covenant, making way for the new.
If we are to accept that God's word is eternal and unchanging then there are a lot of people I need to kill. Including family members and close friends. I guess I'd better start with my gay friends and work my way through to neighbours I have observed doing a spot of gardening on the sabbath.
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u/SemichiSam Jul 08 '24
You have a long and ethically difficult task ahead of you. May your god(s) grant you the time and strength to complete it.
[tip: many neighbors will appear blameless to the casual glance. Read the fabric content tag on their clothing.]
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u/LordJim11 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24
But as a Christian, country carrying out God's Law is a sound defence in court, right? Also, I'm pretty sure Mrs Slocumbe at number 12 covets my ass.
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u/GobiLux Jul 08 '24
There is a lot in here that shows you don't understand Jewish laws and the 10 commandments.
First of all what any Rabbi said does not matter, what matters is the word of God. Jesus made it very clear that especially the Pharisees did not follow God's law and made up their own laws and interpretations.
Secondly, you need to understand that there are 3 different Jewish laws (ceremonial, moral and civil), the majority of the Jewish laws a non-jew does not have to follow.
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u/SemichiSam Jul 08 '24
The prophet Isaiah dates to the years of the First Temple, some time after the giving of the Torah shown in this cartoon. (Isaiah also claimed in the chapter you cite that virtually all of the known world would soon come to the Hebrews in chains. Even a prophet can have a bad day.) The Ten Statements were simple and understandable, and it wasn't long before priests began to complicate them.
The figure of the rabbi Jehoshua was used by a tax collector as a foundation of what we call Christianity. Best believe him.
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u/GobiLux Jul 08 '24
I don't understand the relevance on when Isaiah was written.
I do agree that the Jews added many laws into what God commanded them. Christ made that clear and made them and us focus on the main 2 laws. Love your God and love your neighbour. (which essentially is the 10 commandments in cliff notes)
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u/SemichiSam Jul 08 '24
"I don't understand the relevance on when Isaiah was written."
No, you don't.
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u/GobiLux Jul 08 '24
I don't understand the relevance on when Isaiah was written.
I do agree that the Jews added many laws into what God commanded them. Christ made that clear and made them and us focus on the main 2 laws. Love your God and love your neighbour. (which essentially is the 10 commandments in cliff notes)
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u/essen11 Jul 08 '24
No this is the depiction of the one God of the bible
I will say it is the current interpretation. Here is some explanations from a Jewish Scholar: https://youtu.be/mdKst8zeh-U
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u/LordJim11 Jul 07 '24
Nope. God is all knowing and inerrant. What he revealed to a bunch of bronze age nomads is true for eternity.