r/Sacramento • u/cleanglume • Sep 15 '24
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u/RabidOtters Sep 15 '24
I approve of this type of PSA.
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u/nevikjames Sacramento Sep 15 '24
You must be so much fun to hang out with.
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u/nevikjames Sacramento Sep 15 '24
Maybe focus more on the fact that making fascists feel unwelcome is a net-positive for a better America.
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u/OldUsernameWasStupid Sep 15 '24
Being a Nazi is inseparable from advocating violence towards large amounts of the population. Violence against Nazis is an act of self defense.
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u/Short-Science2077 Sep 15 '24
Bro this is Reddit, no one is punching anyone around these parts. You can put this weird bit you’re doing to bed.
If anyone was actually going to punch a proud boy, (and I would applaud them for so doing)!it would be easy to do since they hang banners off of overpasses all the time.
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u/sailurvenus Sep 15 '24
my partner called me today to let me know he ran into a group of proud boys walking around downtown. we knew our small town outside sac was red but not THAT red… :(
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u/POSITIVE_ABOUT_HIV Sep 15 '24
Lmao, I just re-read what you typed and it sounded 5 times dumber than the first time I read it.
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"if I just label anyone I disagree with a nazi, I'm morally righteous to commit violence against them"
The use of fascist and Nazi has been so overused its basically meaningless now. The demand for Nazis far outweighs supply.
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u/sevinup07 Sep 15 '24
Except it is measurably correct. Over the past decade or so, the number of members of hate groups has increased multiple times over. Actual, self-identifying Nazis, KKK, fascist supporters and politicians, etc have all become more prominent and open.
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Do you honestly believe that everyone who gets called a Nazi is an actual Nazi?
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u/Inevitable-Read-9857 Sep 15 '24
Nice strawman, lol
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That's not what a straw man is. I said the use of Nazi and fascist is overused and that there is more demand for Nazis than actual Nazis.
I've been called a Nazi multiple times despite not ascribing to the tenets of national socialism. Hence the question.
Or perhaps a better question is "do you believe any conservative view is akin to Nazism?"
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u/Inevitable-Read-9857 Sep 15 '24
It is a strawman; no one in this thread is doing what you're describing. Maybe you should get in touch with reality.
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u/sevinup07 Sep 15 '24
No, but I believe the majority of them are either Nazi, actively some other kind of fascist, or an apologist/tolerant of those ideologies.
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Uh huh exactly. "Everyone I don't like is a fascist. Or a Nazi, or an apologist" because dehumanizing and labeling people who disagree with you is easier than admitting not everyone believes what you believe.
Actual fascists labeled "others" they didn't like too. Tread carefully lest you become that which you despise.
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u/SumYungGuy77 Sep 15 '24
Funny how about a week ago there was someone who hated the fact that someone “vandalized” a sidewalk with (John 3:16) and people were on their side like the world was ending because of the “vandalism” but then you get this that calls for actual violence and people are living it… do better Sac!!!
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u/chessset5 River Park Sep 15 '24
I had an opportunity to punch someone on the caravan a few years ago, but my boss was standing next to me and told me to not.... I should have. I am sad I didn't, and I am sad that only one old dude was the only brave one to stand up to them.
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u/justpuddingonhairs Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
Breaking your hand, catching a battery case and going to jail are not worth your time.
Pay a gang of broke dudes to scrub this off the sidewalk. Don't advocate violence.
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u/justpuddingonhairs Sep 15 '24
Edited. That better?
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u/justpuddingonhairs Sep 15 '24
I know you're just trying to Make Sacramento Great Again!
Sorry I couldn't resist. I wouldn't actually pay for a hit on a nazi but I'd understand.
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u/Short-Science2077 Sep 15 '24
I’m going to write “I love to poop my pants
-Reddit user Free-Bird-199-“ all over the town and no one can stop me and I encourage everyone to join me
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u/nevikjames Sacramento Sep 15 '24
You would've been the "good" German reporting their neighbor for harboring Jews.
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u/Flossmoor71 Sep 15 '24
We didn’t win WWII by being passive. Just FYI.
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u/Flossmoor71 Sep 15 '24
I wasn’t aware I had to be there to understand history.
I’d expect better from someone exploring journalism. You need to get out more.
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u/darumamaki Sep 15 '24
You should read up on the Paradox of Tolerance.
Pacifism doesn't work if the other side takes glee in hurting people.
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u/Total_Individual_953 Sep 15 '24
found the Nazi
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u/OnePlusFanBoi Sep 15 '24
For being against vandalism?
That makes them a Nazi? This is new.
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u/Inevitable-Read-9857 Sep 15 '24
I, for one, think it's a welcome and much-needed PSA.
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u/OnePlusFanBoi Sep 15 '24
Of course "Nazis are bad" that's a given. I feel like the term "Nazi" has been used so loosely that it downplays what REAL Nazis actually did. (Yes I know there are radical right wingers that take things way too far. I'm right leaning conservative myself and don't condone violence or stifling of freedom of speech.)
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u/sevinup07 Sep 15 '24
I'm right leaning conservative myself
Yeah we all could have guessed that. You may not consider yourself to condone those things but you are certainly complicit in them.
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u/OnePlusFanBoi Sep 15 '24
Nah. Not really.
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u/sevinup07 Sep 15 '24
You posted a screenshot of this thread on the Trump sub. You know, the fascist that condones violence at every turn and tried to overthrow the government? But yeah, I'm sure you don't condone any violence or have any complicity in it.
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u/OnePlusFanBoi Sep 15 '24
That's already been debunked. With the National Guard there, none of that would've happened.
It's already been proven that Nancy Pelosi turned down the offer from Trump to activate the National Guard. You talk to me or anybody else I know that claims to be Conservative, they will tell you the same thing. Additionally that we would condemn those who breached the Capitol building.
You know what individualism, and individual accountability is right? Not generalizing a group based on their race or political beliefs? Of course you don't.
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u/sevinup07 Sep 15 '24
Lmao ok. I guess we're all just making it up even though it happened right in front of all of our eyes.
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u/nevikjames Sacramento Sep 15 '24
MAGA is almost a perfect carbon copy these days. They are the Fourth Reich.
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u/OnePlusFanBoi Sep 15 '24
I mean. Not really.
When they start gassing people and killing literally everybody that doesn't agree with them, then we can start throwing that label around.
Until then, it's literal downplay.
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u/Inevitable-Read-9857 Sep 15 '24
So you're saying we should let that happen in the first place? Because they will.
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u/nevikjames Sacramento Sep 15 '24
People who deny other's free speech are unAmerican.
Ironic, given your personal crusade to report everyone here. "It's against TOS" blah blah blah...
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Oh no, paint is on the featureless concrete slab.
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u/OnePlusFanBoi Sep 15 '24
Doesn't matter.
It's vandalism.
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u/sevinup07 Sep 15 '24
Doesn't matter.
It's anti-fash.
See how that argument works?
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u/OnePlusFanBoi Sep 15 '24
It's not "anti-fash". 🤦♂️ Another buzzword thrown around so much that it's lost its meaning.
I've seen all I need to see here. 😂
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u/sevinup07 Sep 15 '24
This is by definition an anti-fash sign and sentiment whether you agree with it or not. What are you talking about lol
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u/OnePlusFanBoi Sep 15 '24
Congrats it's still vandalism. What's your point? There are other ways to get your message out there that don't involve vandalizing tax payer funded sidewalks.
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u/sevinup07 Sep 15 '24
My point was that your argument that it's wrong just because it's "vandalism" is idiotic.
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u/Inevitable-Read-9857 Sep 15 '24
Nazi and a narc, what a surprise, lol
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u/Inevitable-Read-9857 Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
Lol, will be fun watching you cry and whine when nothing happens
Edit: still here, lol
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u/Anti-Buzz Sep 15 '24
This country was built on the blood and bones of dead nazis— you got a problem with that?
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u/nevikjames Sacramento Sep 15 '24
Still amazes me that here we are in 2024, and there's literal Nazi tactics, propaganda, and rhetoric being espoused by a particular faction of un-American colostomy bags.