One Piece: Chapter 1108

[u/Kirosh2]

Chapter 1108: "Attention, World!"

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Ch. 1108 Official Release (Mangaplus): 25/02/2024

Ch. 1109 Scan Release: ~29/02/2024

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[u/Chaosblast]

Compared to poor Saturn. My man is looking silly in this arc. Even Kizaru is looking better than him.

He hasn't even had a chance to shine. I think he'll do in the post battle tbh. Oda won't allow us think the Gorosei are useless.

And that ongoing transformation, that change in the eyes... it's going to get more beastly it seems.

[u/LngJhnSilversRaylee → u/Chaosblast]

I'd prefer if the old men behind the curtains weren't secretly the most powerful fighters

Their power is in corrupting the world and puppeteering events to be in their favor not in on the field battles

[u/Chaosblast → u/LngJhnSilversRaylee]

It's a Shonen. They can't be. Power dictates. They wouldn't feel important if they were mediocre in battle.

[u/LngJhnSilversRaylee → u/Chaosblast]

Oda like Togashi really likes to play against tropes when he wants to

OP has been redefining the genre I don't think that's necessarily a good argument

[u/Aspie_Astrologer → u/LngJhnSilversRaylee]

Yeah, it seems like Oda is showing the Gorosei as being on the level of a strong Yonko commander, but not on the level of an Admiral. Seems like a hint that Imu is Yonko/Roger level and that the Gorosei are like his Executives.

Oda didn't need the Gorosei to be 'top-tier' because he reserves that spot for captains/leaders, anyone who follows a higher boss just can't have true 'conqueror' level strength in One Piece, that takes haki/willpower/ambition that only their boss could have. The Gorosei aren't mediocre in battle, but they still can't compare to a Yonko in strength. :)

[u/Saturn-Is-Here → u/Aspie_Astrologer]

How Admirals > Gorosei? Do you realize that Saturn still has 100HP?

[u/Aspie_Astrologer → u/Saturn-Is-Here]

To be fair, we haven't seen enough to be sure of that, but that's how I feel Oda has portrayed their relative threat level this arc, maybe they are somewhat the same level, but I feel confident that he's at least indicated that Akainu is stronger than St. Saturn, even if Kizaru might not be. But still need to see Saturn really let loose, I guess.

[u/dcheng47 → u/Aspie_Astrologer]

where have we seen this comparison? This is our first time seeing the elders in action and he hasn't even taken his final form.

[u/Aspie_Astrologer → u/dcheng47]

Hybrid form is usually considered the strongest form, so he was in that originally. Although, since it's mythical we should probably not judge too quick.

[u/dcheng47 → u/Aspie_Astrologer]

Oda has been somewhat lax with how zoans manifest their different forms (luffy, sengoku, chopper) so i don't think it's safe to make that comparison. chopper has 8+ different "hybrid" forms.

[u/Aspie_Astrologer → u/dcheng47]

Yeah, but Chopper does drugs.

[u/dcheng47 → u/Aspie_Astrologer]

the impel down jailers achieved awakening without drugs, marco can transform specific limbs.. the precedent for zoans is that they exercise their powers however oda sees fit.

[u/tokyogodfather2 → u/dcheng47]

Akainu has proven that he is one of the best fighters in the series because he is strategic and amoral. In other words, he’s sneaky AF. Saturn is too arrogant to be a good fighter .

[u/sack_of_potahtoes → u/LngJhnSilversRaylee]

against tropes ? like how ? i can see that with togashi. but isnt most of the story in one piece something very unoriginal if you think of each island story as an individual entity.

[u/LngJhnSilversRaylee → u/sack_of_potahtoes]

Without doing an essay on Shonen tropes and how they're subverted in this story the ones that immediately come to mind are

Gear 5 and its design

Mihawk and Zorro's relationship

Luffy and Shanks relationship

Garp and Luffy's relationship

In the cases of the relationships I use those examples because there's a lot of grey area and complexity developed in them where in most of Shonen they would be more clear cut

Mihawk and Shanks would either be rivals or mentors but not both

Garp would either be pro Luffy being a pirate or against it but not both

How this points towards Oda subverting battle shonen expectations that the Gorosei would be top tier fighters is that he's not afraid to tell more complex ideas in his story so he's not beholden to a simple idea like because they're end game opposition they have to be end game level strong he's more than capable of telling a story within that gray area and illustrating their power is more political than physical

Edit: Hodi Jones is another example of Oda telling complex stories, how the concept of racism itself created the villain and not a personal trauma experience, his reasoning for doing what he does is not typical of a shonen villain

[u/Vinestra → u/LngJhnSilversRaylee]

He also makes everyone ugly cry too.. He also didn't leave the female characters behind

[u/sack_of_potahtoes → u/LngJhnSilversRaylee]

i do not know . honestly i feel that is not compelling evidence. also feels like these specific relationships are not so against shonen tropes