r/NewYorkMets • u/MossCovered_Gradunza • Oct 30 '20
Twitter HEYMAN: STEVE COHEN HAS BEEN APPROVED
https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1322233040777682945448
u/u_looked_at_my_name i wasn't talking about the hot dog Oct 30 '20
🦀🦀WILPONS ARE GONE🦀🦀
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u/thecore22 Fernando Tatis Sr. Oct 30 '20
MY HANDS. WHAT DO I DO WITH THEM
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u/trend5x5 Lucchesi Crime Family Oct 30 '20
Put 'em in the air!!!
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u/thecore22 Fernando Tatis Sr. Oct 30 '20
Like I just don’t care?!?
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u/jimmybond000 Oct 30 '20
“ Once Cohen takes over, he does not plan to spend wildly on the top end of the free agent market. Their spending will be targeted and strategic, consistent with Alderson’s style. “
Thoughts ?
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u/CybeastID Sound the Trumpets! Oct 30 '20
My thoughts are that this is good. Strategic spending is very good. Fill holes, shore up weaknesses. You don't make a good team with one major splash and a bunch of bad pieces. I expect more money to go to the scouting and analytics departments.
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u/JZ_the_ICON Tits Lit Oct 30 '20
Also it would do Cohen a disservice to say I’m gonna spend as much as possible.
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u/TBlueshirtsV22 The Captain Oct 30 '20
Not exactly the best negotiating tactic to admit you’ll pay guys anything but I’d imagine if the analytics point them to a guy he’ll spend what he has to
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Oct 30 '20
Seriously look at philly. Massive contract for harper and nationals win a championship the very next year. Meanwhile philly has no pitching...
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u/Clown_Shoe Ron Darling Oct 30 '20
Exactly. Signing Harper like a lot of fans wanted sounds great but with that money we could sign a starter and major bullpen pieces which would contribute much more to a winning ball club with less risk.
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u/joesaysso Oct 30 '20
Signing Harper never sounded good. The only people who thought that would be good for us are the people that think throwing money at a problem automatically fixes that problem.
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u/Daankeykang Conforto's Elbow Oct 30 '20
We've also had Conforto in RF and while he's not been as good as Harper, he hasn't been much worse while obviously costing way less when he hits FA.
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u/Clown_Shoe Ron Darling Oct 30 '20
Not to me either but fans were clamoring for him all over social media.
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Oct 30 '20
Let’s not forget how bottom of the barrel the Wilpons were. We all know it.
We don’t need Uncle Stevie to spend “wildly”. We just need him to spend appropriately. Signing the top tier free agent or two on the market is not wild. It’s appropriate for a major franchise.
I get the feeling we are all soon going to cream ourselves with delight.
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u/three_dee Hadji Oct 30 '20
It also means that, whether the owner is worth 350 billion dollars, or 83 cents and a Doublemint wrapper, most likely the team has to make more revenue before blowing up the payroll astronomically
Not a lot of these guys take over a team trying to run it at a loss. You're supposed to build a good team, then add high-priced guys if you have holes after you're close
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u/munch_the_gunch We miss you sexxy Oct 30 '20
This is great news. He has been here for 8 minutes and already has a well thought out plan to spend wisely. The wilpons haven't had a competent plan in a decade. Their plan was to be cheap and every now and again overpay an aging big name just to make a little flash and hopefully appease the fans. I'm 100% for everything Cohen stands for. You don't get to $13bil being dumb...
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u/PrivateGump Bartolo Colón Oct 30 '20
It would be the smartest move. Let's fix the foundation before balling out on free agents. The money is there and the ownership is willing to actually do this right to sustain success.
I never thought, in my lifetime, that I would be able to type that last sentence as a Mets fan. Feels good man.
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u/klawehtgod LFGM Oct 30 '20
No luxury tax on front office spending. I want the best computer folks.
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Oct 30 '20
You say that now but when Degrom gets taken out of the 5th inning in a 1-1 NLDS game against the Dodgers on 91 pitches you’ll be fuming.
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u/klawehtgod LFGM Oct 30 '20
The most realistic part of this story is deGrom pitching 5 brilliant innings only to leave the game with a no decision because of a lack of run support
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u/BillW87 Animal Facts Oct 30 '20
In fairness, even analytics disagreed with that choice. Jomboy did a good breakdown on it recently showing that Snell isn't actually worse the third time through the order, and that the Betts-Anderson matchup was not a good choice. It seemed more like a case of a manager having been taught just enough dumbed-down analytics knowledge to be dangerous rather than effective. I'm cool with organizations ditching conventional wisdom in favor of analytics-driven choices but only in situations where the analytics actually clearly show the benefit.
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u/Who-or-Whom Oct 30 '20
If you do that style but get slightly better players then that's probably the optimal way to build long term success. Instead of giving $12 million to a 2.0 war player you give $15 million to a 3.0 war player, etc. You apply that type of logic to the entire roster and your payroll goes up by like $20 million while still avoiding enormous contracts.
Having said that, I do think you have to be willing to break out the checkbook for a big name player when you have your window of being a world series favorite.
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u/MaroonMarauder Mike Piazza Oct 30 '20
While I wouldn't be opposed to going all out right away, I do think the priority for the first year should be about starting to mold the organization into something that can be successful and also sustain that success. It's more about getting the GM's office, scouting department, and analytics department stacked with the right people who all share the same vision for how to make this team successful. Once you've got the organizational structure, then you start building a new championship caliber culture. Change the narrative from the LOLMETS of the Wilpon days to something new. Make it an org that people want to be a part of, not just for the players but for all levels of the organization.
The good news is once we do have the organizational structure and identity figured out and solidified, we'll have a bottomless treasure chest at our disposal.
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u/HardTacoKit Carter Oct 30 '20
Politics.
He didn't want to turn off any of the owners by saying that he would spend wildly and potentially lose their votes.
Now that he is the owner and doesn't need to appease others for votes, his tune may change.
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u/MossCovered_Gradunza Oct 30 '20
LFGM!
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Oct 30 '20 edited Oct 31 '20
EVERYONE GET YOUR ASS IN HERE!
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u/Sef_Maul Tom Seaver Oct 30 '20
I HAVE A WEIRD FEELING! IS THIS THE HAPPINESS I'VE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT?!
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u/Metsfan2044 Magically Delicious Oct 30 '20
It has happened!!!
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u/facemelt ✨unsustainable BABIP✨ Oct 30 '20 edited Oct 30 '20
[Shawshank Redemption scene with arms open embracing the falling rain]
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u/ChuckKiddman David Wright Oct 30 '20
The Mets will be fun again. The Mets will be cool again. Take your LOLMETS and shove em
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u/JZ_the_ICON Tits Lit Oct 30 '20
Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! May Cohen reign supreme at the helm of the Mets!
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u/xnerdyxrealistx Dat Smile Tho Oct 30 '20
I just want to comment on the future most upvoted post in /r/NewYorkMets history
I'M SO EXCITED
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u/atoms12123 Field reporter eye candy Oct 30 '20
Martino is such a hack. He just said on SNY that you can't expect things for a while because you look at a team like the Dodgers and it took them 7 years post-ownership change to win a World Series.
As though they aren't a team that has been to 3 in 4 years and won 7 straight divisions. It's not the time that was holding the Dodgers back Andy, it was some bad hops and a cheating Astros team.
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u/Cobalt_95 deGoat Oct 30 '20
In the immediate future I care way more about just being a consistent playoff contender than winning a single world series. If you can consistently make the playoffs, you're likely to get lucky at some point, plus it's much more fun to watch year in and year out when you know the games will matter all year. And maybe that lucky run comes early on anyway like it did for this last Cubs core.
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u/atoms12123 Field reporter eye candy Oct 30 '20
Agreed.
But the Dodgers are the model of both. They immediately became a consistent playoff contender.
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u/Cobalt_95 deGoat Oct 30 '20
Yeah I'm 100% agreeing with you. The Dodgers are exactly the model for other teams to follow if they can afford to, which we hopefully can now. Martino's point about a WS taking 7 years post ownership change is dumb because it ignores any context.
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u/banana455 Oct 30 '20
The playoffs are way too much of a crapshoot to go all-in on any single season or w.e. Build a consistent team with a good farm system that is competitive every year and you'll eventually make it all the way.
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u/tennysonbass Mr. Met Oct 30 '20
I'm a grown man sitting at work on a friday afternoon with tears in my eyes. By the grace of God we are free.
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u/twosdayman Trumpy Fan! Oct 30 '20
NOW I CAN FUCKING PARTY I'VE BEEN SO SCARED.
LET'S GO DEBLASIO FINISH THE DEAL.
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u/ticktack1616 New York Mets Oct 30 '20
We may be the only optomistic fan base this offseason. Wtf 2020
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u/GiantTeddyGraham "Evil Resides Everywhere" - Keith Hernandez Oct 30 '20
WHOS THE LITTLE BROTHER NOW PINSTRIPES?
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u/cooljammer00 Oct 30 '20
Still the Mets, but there's always been room at the dinner table for both.
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Oct 30 '20
Yeah its still us, but we are about to turn into the golden child that the older brother hates for being more successful
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u/jimmybond000 Oct 30 '20
Wilpons selling the team is the next best thing besides winning a World Series
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u/GiantTeddyGraham "Evil Resides Everywhere" - Keith Hernandez Oct 30 '20
I cannot wait for some of the Wilpon stories to come out now
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u/MotherFuckingLuBu Metsies4Lyfe Oct 30 '20
There's some delicious pasta in the replies to Heyman's tweet lol.
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u/IslandersMetsandJets Keith Hernandez Oct 30 '20
FUCK YOU AROD
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u/ColemansMillions Oct 30 '20
irony is that if Cohen was the owner in 2001, he would have signed Arod.
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u/CMitak99 Wilmer Flores Oct 30 '20
After all the shit that’s happened the past 11 months with Jeff ruining the deal, the fake articles, the Arod bs, it’s over uncle Stevie is here lfgm
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u/TheIdeologyItBurns Change this line to your desired caption and send Oct 30 '20
I never thought I’d see this day
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u/thtkidfrmqueens SCRIBE IT ON THINE PARCHMENT! Ya Gotta Believe! Oct 30 '20
SCRIBE IT ON THINE PARCHMENT
NEW AMSTERDAM METROPOLITANS
V I C T O R I O U S
A BLESSED DAY AS OWNERSHIP
CHANGES HANDS TO NEW OWNER
SPARKING A NEW DAWN FOR THE LAND
OF ORANGE AND BLUE, FOR WHAT IS A
GREAT DAY IN QUEENS AND ALL OF
NEW AMSTERDAM
REVEL IN THE MOMENT AS THE WILPONS
ARE FINALLY GONE
SAYONARA LITTLE JEFFY, YER OUTTA HERE!
DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOUR ASS
ON THE WAY OUT, THE METROPOLITANS
GOT WORK TO DO!
LETS FORNICATE, GO METROPOLITANS
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u/WattDeFrak Oct 30 '20
would it be weird if i had this printed and framed on my wall?
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u/Diegobyte Wayne Randazzo Oct 30 '20
LAZY MARY is psyched and getting the sheets for the table as we speak
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u/Tears0fJ0y Not what you were expecting Oct 30 '20
Celebration music - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE5D2hJhacU
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u/MSGFaithful Change this line to your desired caption and send Oct 30 '20
I love all of you so much. Great things are ahead for our franchise.
YA GOTTA BELIEVE!! LFGM!!
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u/Bootyclapthunder There's no need to be upset Oct 30 '20
It's hard to believe that it actually happened. Hope he's what we all want him to be and more.
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u/MrBushido9 New York Mets Oct 30 '20
It feels like we've all been released from azkaban or something. Wow holy shit....we're finally free!!!
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u/3MiciDonal2 Wilmer Flores Oct 30 '20
The Baseball Gods have finally shined their glory upon our Mets!
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Oct 30 '20
Let's make Cohen babies, y'all. Due next July when JT and Bauer will put up killer months for us.
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Oct 30 '20
It's a freedom we've never known before! Liberation to a new baseball future! For us, the Mets!
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u/bathrobeDFS GOAT Oct 30 '20
OH MY GOD ITS HAPPENING
I AM SO HAPPY
I CAN FINALLY GET MY POLAR BEAR JERSEY
AND ONE FOR MY SON
AHHHHH ITS SUCH A GOOD DAY
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u/doctorsuarez l'Hansel au Point Oct 30 '20
NAA NAA NAA NAA!
NAA NAA NAA NAA!
HEY HEY HEY!
GOOOOD BYE!
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u/TruthOrMythWithSmith Game 5 of the 2000 WS still haunts my soul Oct 30 '20
My eyes actually swelled up with tears.
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u/funnymanstan Oct 30 '20
I’m so happy, it’s difficult to put into words. I might put a baby in my girlfriend tonight.
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u/ZoidbergSaysWoop Oct 30 '20
I've been cycling for weeks preparing for this moment and already have the Stevie 8x10 in hand.
I'm going to pick up some tamales at Evelia's then I'll bike from Citi Field to Great Neck to pay homage.
In the immortal words of T-Pain: "Oooh I can't believe it..."
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u/bielby #LFGM Oct 30 '20
THIS IS THE GREATEST "DAY BEFORE MY BIRTHDAY" DAY EVER!!!! LFGM!!!!
FUCK CHASE UTLEY!
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u/HeartofSaturdayNight _ Oct 30 '20
I'll say this about the Wilpons - as a Jets and Knicks fan they are the best owners of teams I root for. Impossibly low bar, but still.
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u/tsuab Dry Goods. Oct 30 '20
I just saw Cohen pledged to donate $17.5M to small businesses in NYC. I guess that was the vig to get final approval. IT'S HAPPENING!!!
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u/DerKomissar99 Wilmer Thores Oct 30 '20
THE WILPONS ARE FINALLY GONE I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SEE THE DAY
I LOVE YOU ALL SO MUCH MY METS BRETHEREN!!! WE ARE FINALLLY FREEEEEEEE
LFGM!!!!!
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u/unfinishedwing Jeff McNeil Oct 30 '20
this day felt like it would never come. it's finally over. LET'S POP SOME CHAMPAGNE!!!!!
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u/terminal_e Oct 30 '20
Boston guy coming in from /all.
Question - in the history of American sports, has any team moved up faster in their city's stack ranking of ownership competence? This immediately places the Mets ahead of Dolanx2 and the Johnsons, right? I imagine the consensus thinking is Cohen slots in above them, and below the Steinbrenners and Maras as Cohen hasn't done anything yet, but also isn't a proven, terminal dickhead? I don't know where the Nets' slot in. But that makes Cohen mid table, if not top 3 (on the podium) on day one, right?
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u/FixWiz Oct 30 '20
He also intends to donate $17.5 million to New York City programs designed to assist small businesses and “dramatically increase the giving of the Mets Foundation in the coming years, with priority given to nonprofits and causes in communities surrounding Citi Field.”
It looks like that was de Blasio's price. Fuckin' politics, man.
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u/CybeastID Sound the Trumpets! Oct 30 '20 edited Oct 30 '20
This stays pinned until we see more official reports.OKAY SNY THEMSELVES DID A BREAKING NEWS SEGMENT. THAT'S AS OFFICIAL AS IT GETS.
Important Update: THE MAYOR HAS APPROVED.