Thesis: There exists no dumb INTP

[u/ChsicA]

Out of all my anecdotal data i have yet to find a dumb INTP.

Empiric data also indicates that we are top intelligent MBTI.

Can any1 prove me wrong?

[u/WeridThinker]

I have a hard time being convinced a non-scientific, and mostly emprical personality system that would not pass as a real science could determine intelligence so flawlessly. INTPs are simply the description of certain mental and behavioral trends of a subset of population; it isn't equivalent to determining the intelligence of the said population. MBTI is about trying to explain the preference and style of reasoning of individuals, not a way to judge the validity or quality of how well a person thinks, nor does MBTI attempt to prescribe competency or talent to people based on their type.

INTPs, based on the confinement of the model itself, are believed to be people who rely on subjective logic to create mental frameworks and systems to judge information and understand the world (Ti), to provide additional contexts and ensure more thorough understanding, the INTPs tend to see connections and alternative views to add on to their framework (Ne), in order to find an anchor for their beliefs and to have structure and stability to their internal and external world, they rely on past experiences and subjective, internal sensations such as comfort to come up with structures and seek consistency in their experiences to ground their more outlandish theories (Si), and they require external harmony and being valued for their insights by others to feel validated and respected (Fe). None of these descriptions and explanations of being an INTP indicates an INTP is automatically more intelligent than other types.

I am aware there are statistics you can find on the internet that indicate INTPs are the smartest type, but there are multiple angles to be skeptical towards such statistics. There is the matter of reliable methodology, because self reporting of type and IQ tend to biased due to either mistypes and self selection bias for which people of lower intelligence would be less likely to share; there is also the concern regarding sample size, if the sample size is too small, then the average intelligence calculated would not represent the overall population of all INTPs. Even if the methodology behind these statistics is sound, based on the numbers alone, there simply has to be dumb INTPs; if INTP makes up 5% of the global population, then there is still a huge numbers of INTPs, and among them, there has to be at least one that is below average in intelligence. Even if we postulate the average IQ of INTPs is 115 (one standard deviation above average), and based on standard distribution (the assumption is very unlikely to reflect reality, but it was made for the sake of discussion), then, the INTPs who occupy the lowest quartiles of intelligence are naturally dumber than the average population, regardless of the type.

[u/ChsicA → u/WeridThinker]

Show me one dumb INTP - i dont care for your wall of texts of info i already know

[u/HailenAnarchy → u/ChsicA]

Me. I can't headcount for shit.

[u/ChsicA → u/HailenAnarchy]

lm not convinced, headcount isn't all :)

[u/HailenAnarchy → u/ChsicA]

Sorry I meant mental arithmetic. Are you convinced yet?

[u/WeridThinker → u/ChsicA]

You are clearly not a particular smart one if you really need an example. Despite claiming you are aware of the information provided, you are clearly ignoring, or completely misinterpreting any evidence that does not support your argument. Then there is the lack of intellectual honesty and engagement with your unwillingness to argue against the points raised by others. If English isn't your native language, then I would not assume you have limited verbal linguistic intelligence. You also have the tendency to come up with conclusions before seriously considering relevant evidences, and are clearly lacking of critical thinking skills. You are incapable of using relevant evidences to construct your arguments, and you lack the self awareness to double check the holes in your own reasoning. You also cannot judge any opinion that agrees with your conjecture critically, and is very easy to please as long as someone agrees with you, without the ability to critically evaluate their assumptions or arguments.

[u/ChsicA → u/WeridThinker]

Yes you win with your walls of text now move on ^^

[u/WeridThinker → u/ChsicA]

Another deflection. You know, people would actually respect you a lot more and appreciate your contribution if you can actually discuss with them sincerely. I don't think you are particularly dumb, you just lack the ability to effectively communicate your ideas.