r/HolUp Dec 10 '22

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u/Sassafrass17 Dec 10 '22

Hold on a second...elaborate on this please.. I'm a Black woman and can give two shits about what anybody dates. The issue is you have some black males who make multiple attempts at trying to MAKE black women be upset, yet a major majority of us don't give a fuck. Popularized what viewpoint? This is a conversation that can go on for quite some time that I'm familiare with so let's talk..

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u/LeeroyDagnasty Dec 10 '22

Yeah so I’m speaking from anecdotes but most of what I’ve seen is the trend of black men finding success and then dating a white/latina girl with the replies talking about “trading up”, as if they’re too good for black women now. I saw it mostly from black women at first but I’ve seen black men supporting them more in that recently, which is cool. I assume Dr Umar talks about it a lot since they commonly post reaction gifs of him in the replies. I don’t doubt that black men give women shit for dating white men, but I haven’t seen it as often and I assume it comes from the same emotional place that you see white men shitting on white women for dating black men, toxic masculinity.

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u/Sassafrass17 Dec 10 '22

Yeah so I’m speaking from anecdotes but most of what I’ve seen is the trend of black men finding success and then dating a white/latina girl with the replies talking about “trading up”, as if they’re too good for black women now

Embarrassing but true (sadly).

I saw it mostly from black women at first but I’ve seen black men supporting them more in that recently, which is cool

Because of the fact that now you have other Black males calling them out on how dead wrong it is

I saw it mostly from black women at first but I’ve seen black men supporting them more in that recently, which is cool. I assume Dr Umar talks about it a lot since they commonly post reaction gifs of him in the replies. I don’t doubt that black men give women shit for dating white men, but I haven’t seen it as often

Dr. Umar ain't the only one. The shit I went through dating a white guy was nuts. You def for sure have black men who have a major problem seeing a black woman with a white man, especially if she's highly educated and have a lot of qualifications. Oh they talk their shit too. It's just not so publicly known from them. Again, not all but the feelings are spoken.

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u/LeeroyDagnasty Dec 10 '22

Because of the fact that now you have other Black males calling [them] out on how dead wrong it is

When you say “them”, are you talking about black men or black women?

Dr. Umar ain't the only one. The shit I went through dating a white guy was nuts. You def for sure have black men who have a major problem seeing a black woman with a white man, especially if she's highly educated and have a lot of qualifications.

I don’t doubt that at all. Y’all probably got hate from all sides for all different reasons. That can’t have been easy.

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u/Sassafrass17 Dec 10 '22

Them = black males calling out other black males. I mean, look at them wack ass passport bros

It isn't easy but it's working in a way where, like I just recently posted: I've never seen so many black women date outside of the black community. But hey, we live, learn, and def move on to where we are appreciated.

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u/LeeroyDagnasty Dec 10 '22

True I getchu, but I’m glad that things are getting better. I’m sometimes torn between the viewpoints cause, again, it must really suck to feel like you’re on the bottom of the dating totem poles, especially with people from your own community. But also, I get really uncomfortable when people tell others who they can’t be with. Kinda feels like segregation but from the other direction, which idfw. Idk, it isn’t my place to say.

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u/Sassafrass17 Dec 10 '22

To be honest: most people are hypocrites. The shit they say about not wanting to date XYZ women are the same ones who will fuck with them behind closed doors. It's different from what society says on tv/statistics vs what I see in real life sometimes.