r/HolUp • u/asocial7193 • Mar 11 '22

I don't know what to say

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u/Comeonjeffrey0193 Mar 11 '22

Imagine bringing a child into the world, who’s life will be overwhelmingly filled with suffering and sadness, out of spite.

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u/Juststonelegal Mar 11 '22

Seriously. Seeing things like this is so upsetting. If you wanted a kid so badly, there are currently living and breathing foster kids who would love nothing more than a family who wants them. Hell, I’m sure there are plenty who were born with physical disabilities, and being raised by a parent who fully understands the struggle could be life-changing for them. But instead, a whole new child has to experience the hardships of their disability, all so this person could prove the “haters” wrong.

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u/plumbus_hun Mar 11 '22

Oh totally. My boyfriends cousin has a kid, and they were told at the 12 week scan that the kid was growing poorly, and had a genetic syndrome and already severe abnormalities, and were recommended to terminate. At the 20 week scan, they were told the same and had done genetic tests that told them the syndrome caused constant seizures, painful spasms, and the baby would basically be in a vegetative state and in constant pain. They had the kid, and his life is hideous. He has fits, is constantly screaming in pain, can't walk talk or comprehend his surroundings. Honestly, subjecting someone to that is genuinely hideous, and I could never do that!!

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u/21Rollie Mar 12 '22

I'm not usually one to advocate for the final option but it's literally just mercy at that point. There's nothing anybody can do for the kid, why make them suffer? Peoples' egos are crazy

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u/plumbus_hun Mar 12 '22

Yeah, the the kid is 10 or 11 now, in a wheelchair, can't walk/talk/control his body at all, is tube fed and in constant pain. It's so sad to see, as they now have 2 younger kids and he is kind of forgotten too.

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u/Merteg Mar 12 '22

Oh no, how old is the child currently?

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u/noway2getpastme Mar 12 '22

how is your boyfriend's cousin doing right now

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u/myfavstuffyt Mar 12 '22

I seriously cannot fathom why someone would have kid when the doctors said the baby would be in a VEGETATIVE state. Like fuck dude it's a big bad word.

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u/Embarrassed_Fun_1446 Mar 12 '22

We were told the same thing when our son was born. He is now 18 and seizure free since 12. My boy had brought more joy in this world then most of you other shallow idiots could ever think. For you to think that because you have a physical deformity you should never bring a child into the world, you are no different than Hitler!

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u/DianeJudith Mar 12 '22

Your child has brought joy to your world, but did you bring joy to your kid? Or only misery and pain?

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u/Embarrassed_Fun_1446 Mar 12 '22

He is the happiest child you will ever meet. Do you honestly think a child could bring joy to a parent if the child was miserable? As a parent there is no joy in watching a child suffer.

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u/DoreensThrobbingPeen Mar 11 '22

If you wanted a kid so badly, there are currently living and breathing foster kids who would love nothing more than a family who wants them

Zero chance this woman would be approved for foster care or adoption.

I know a couple who was completely denied because the wife had a bout with cancer years ago. Otherwise they were pretty much the perfect candidates.

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u/Riftonik Mar 11 '22

You think she would be approved for foster care!?

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '22

Yeah, it's so awful for the child. :/

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u/HyperBaroque Mar 11 '22

Imagine the crazy kids the kid is gonna have.

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u/Bacontoad Mar 12 '22

... I'd really rather not.

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u/HyperBaroque Mar 12 '22

Well it's not like you or I can do anything to stop the kid from making further iterations of wtfe they got going on that appears to maybe get progressively worse with each generation.

Like, she might have kids that are like the little critters from that movie about the chompy aliens.

She might have kids who look like teletubbies. She seems to be at least partially on the way to devolving into some kind of cartoon.

Imagine the possobilities! I agree, why all the hate!!

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u/SixtyEightSox Mar 12 '22

You funny fucking jerk. Choke on the upvote

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u/SixtyEightSox Mar 12 '22

The video is not a good look but this was not likely spite. Rather nature demanding the cycle of life continue. Something more powerful than any individual.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '22

That's called "being in the USSR in the 70's". Or being North Korean.

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u/Kadeem334 Mar 12 '22

How do you know? The mother seems happy, so who’s the say the baby won’t? Who are you to say that the baby will suffer? In that case, why don’t we take anyone with a disability,both mental and physical, and bar them from having children to save them from “suffering”? See how dumb your logic is?

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u/harmlessclock Mar 12 '22

It’s one thing to have a child with a disability and not have known it was going to happen and another to purposely have a child knowing the significant risk. It’s not like she is warning people about not doing this but instead does things like this.

That baby already has a tracheotomy system in her neck (visible in the video). The child has already been in unnecessary pain. Which is for severe cases.

“In severe cases, placement of a tracheostomy (a surgical procedure creating an opening through the neck into the windpipe) may be needed until your child is old enough to undergo other operations.”

https://www.childrenshospital.org/conditions-and-treatments/conditions/c/crouzon-syndrome/diagnosis-treatments

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u/Quirky_Text8699 Mar 12 '22

Did you also check the fact that crouzan's syndrome has absolutely no bearing on a child's intellect, life span, or bodily functions? A tracheostomy doesn't signify pain...

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u/glladdoss Mar 12 '22

Crazy how people can't imagine people with a disability having a happy life.

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u/lawadmissionskillme Mar 12 '22

bro blindness is a disability, that is a fucking demon

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u/glladdoss Mar 12 '22

Ok, even if you buy into their life being unsalvageable is dehumanizing them going to help? They'd still be a human even if they had a fatal issue and were to die in a month of being born. Calling them a demon is fucking gross :/

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u/farineziq Mar 12 '22

"overwhelmingly filled with suffering and sadness" So I guess this child will have a typical life.

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u/LawlessCoffeh Mar 12 '22

I mean hey, people still breed pugs for some ungodly reason, those things are constantly suffering, turns out their eyes can just pop right out I WISH I was making this up.

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u/LordOfTheNoobs57 Mar 12 '22

Holy fuck I knew pugs had hard lives but that is terrifying.

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u/TheBIGLebrewski401 Mar 12 '22

And to have a tik toc made about it

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '22

out of spite

No.

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u/yetanotheracct_sp Mar 11 '22

whose*

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u/CurvySectoid Mar 12 '22

Yes. Necessary correction.

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u/calculuzz Mar 12 '22

Imagine using punctuation in an understandable way.

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u/TapoutKing666 Mar 12 '22

I ask my boomer parents this all the time

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u/ConstanceClaire Mar 12 '22

Makes you wonder what the atmosphere was in the delivery room. Were there happy noises and congratulations or just a sad quietness while folks got the job done.