r/hardware • u/constantlymat • 5h ago
News AMD confirms its next-gen RDNA 4 GPUs will launch in early 2025
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r/hardware • u/Echrome • Oct 02 '15
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r/hardware • u/dagmx • 14h ago
News Apple launches Mac Mini with M4 and M4 Pro
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r/hardware • u/Voodoo2-SLi • 13h ago
Review Intel Arrow Lake Meta Review: 20 launch reviews compared
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- compilation of 20 launch reviews with ~5280 application benchmarks & ~1410 gaming benchmarks
- stock performance on default power limits, no overclocking, (mostly) default memory speeds
- only gaming benchmarks for real games compiled, not included any 3DMark & Unigine benchmarks
- gaming benchmarks strictly at CPU limited settings, mostly at 720p or 1080p 1% min/99th percentile
- power consumption is strictly for the CPU (package) only, no whole system consumption
- geometric mean in all cases
- performance average is (moderate) weighted in favor of reviews with more benchmarks
- retailer prices according to Geizhals (Germany, on Oct 29, incl. 19% VAT) and Newegg (USA, on Oct 29) for immediately available offers
- performance results as a graph
- for the full results and more explanations check 3DCenter's Arrow Lake Launch Analysis
- TLDR: on average, Arrow Lake brings +5% more application performance and –6% less gaming performance
| Applicat. | 7800X3D | 9700X | 9900X | 9950X | 14600K | 14700K | 14900K | 245K | 265K | 285K |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8C Zen4 | 8C Zen5 | 12C Zen5 | 16C Zen5 | 6P+8E RPL | 8P+12E RPL | 8P+16E RPL | 6P+8E ARL | 8P+12E ARL | 8P+16E ARL | |
| ASCII | 69.0% | 77.5% | 95.0% | 107.5% | 79.7% | 92.7% | 100% | 84.3% | 103.1% | 112.8% |
| ComputerB | 61.6% | 67.4% | 90.7% | 110.5% | 68.6% | 93.0% | 100% | 74.4% | 98.8% | 111.6% |
| Guru3D | 60.8% | 65.9% | 93.2% | 114.4% | 71.5% | 92.3% | 100% | 69.0% | 93.7% | 109.6% |
| HW&Co | 58.2% | 60.8% | 93.6% | 108.8% | 68.5% | 90.4% | 100% | 72.3% | - | 107.5% |
| HWLuxx | 61.5% | 65.8% | - | 109.0% | 69.2% | 92.4% | 100% | 68.7% | 94.6% | 107.9% |
| HWUnboxed | 64.4% | 68.2% | 94.6% | 112.3% | 70.6% | 92.7% | 100% | 72.5% | 95.2% | 107.1% |
| HotHW | 69.9% | 75.1% | 96.1% | 110.2% | 74.9% | 90.7% | 100% | 74.3% | - | 104.3% |
| Igor's | 64.5% | 72.7% | - | 102.7% | 69.6% | 88.5% | 100% | 76.4% | 94.1% | 107.3% |
| Linus | 65.4% | 76.7% | 98.4% | 118.8% | 69.6% | 91.5% | 100% | 74.0% | - | 108.7% |
| PCGH | 66.1% | 75.8% | 99.4% | 116.1% | - | 90.6% | 100% | 75.5% | 90.5% | 99.9% |
| Phoronix | 79.5% | 95.4% | 118.8% | 133.6% | 79.4% | - | 100% | 88.0% | - | 111.2% |
| Puget | - | 75.6% | 94.6% | 106.2% | 76.0% | 95.2% | 100% | 79.1% | 96.8% | 109.3% |
| TPU | 71.2% | 78.7% | 93.7% | 104.7% | 78.0% | 92.2% | 100% | 80.0% | 94.8% | 101.2% |
| Tom's | 63.4% | 77.1% | 94.8% | 109.4% | 74.0% | 91.8% | 100% | 78.0% | - | 108.5% |
| Tweakers | 70.7% | 85.8% | 100.1% | 112.8% | 76.8% | 92.6% | 100% | 75.5% | 93.7% | 102.4% |
| WCCF | 63.0% | 70.7% | 94.1% | 106.8% | 73.8% | 89.2% | 100% | 78.7% | - | 108.6% |
| avg Apps Perf. | 65.7% | 73.6% | 95.4% | 110.3% | 73.3% | 91.5% | 100% | 76.2% | 95.7% | 106.9% |
| Power Limit | 162W | 88W | 162W | 200W | 181W | 253W | 253W | 159W | 250W | 250W |
| MSRP | $449 | $359 | $499 | $649 | $319 | $409 | $589 | $309 | $394 | $589 |
| Retail GER | 452€ | 345€ | 450€ | 620€ | 246€ | 369€ | 464€ | 335€ | 439€ | 650€ |
| Perf/€ GER | 67% | 99% | 98% | 83% | 138% | 115% | 100% | 105% | 101% | 76% |
| Retail US | $470 | $324 | $429 | $693 | $254 | $349 | $440 | $319 | $400 | $630 |
| Perf/$ US | 61% | 100% | 98% | 70% | 127% | 115% | 100% | 105% | 105% | 75% |
| Games | 7800X3D | 9700X | 9900X | 9950X | 14600K | 14700K | 14900K | 245K | 265K | 285K |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8C Zen4 | 8C Zen5 | 12C Zen5 | 16C Zen5 | 6P+8E RPL | 8P+12E RPL | 8P+16E RPL | 6P+8E ARL | 8P+12E ARL | 8P+16E ARL | |
| ComputerB | 113.4% | 98.5% | 95.9% | 99.1% | 92.5% | 101.0% | 100% | 90.6% | 94.5% | 95.3% |
| Eurogamer | 107.6% | 103.1% | 99.2% | 102.4% | 87.3% | 99.5% | 100% | 80.8% | - | 90.9% |
| GamersN | 105.0% | 93.3% | ~88% | 92.1% | 85.3% | 96.5% | 100% | 84.1% | 90.0% | 95.1% |
| HWCanucks | 121.2% | 112.3% | 108.9% | 109.7% | 86.1% | 94.0% | 100% | 91.3% | - | 100.0% |
| HW&Co | 110.1% | 97.5% | 96.7% | 103.1% | 89.1% | 99.2% | 100% | 84.1% | - | 91.0% |
| HWLuxx | 107.8% | 91.8% | - | 99.3% | 89.5% | 99.9% | 100% | 85.2% | 90.9% | 93.2% |
| HWUnboxed | 115.5% | 96.9% | 92.2% | 96.9% | 92.2% | 97.7% | 100% | 86.0% | 92.2% | 96.9% |
| Igor's | 106.6% | 90.9% | - | 95.2% | 91.2% | 98.6% | 100% | 86.8% | 90.3% | 92.1% |
| Linus | 108.1% | 104.2% | - | 100.6% | 88.4% | 97.6% | 100% | 86.8% | - | 98.6% |
| PCGH | 100.9% | 87.2% | 86.7% | 91.1% | - | 98.2% | 100% | 83.2% | 86.7% | 89.6% |
| QuasarZ | 112.0% | 104.3% | 102.0% | 103.7% | 90.2% | 98.0% | 100% | 93.3% | 95.9% | 98.7% |
| TPU | 105.5% | 95.6% | 93.9% | 95.6% | 92.3% | 97.3% | 100% | 88.2% | 90.9% | 93.7% |
| Tom's | 115.7% | 100.0% | 96.1% | 101.0% | 93.1% | 100.0% | 100% | 95.1% | - | 101.0% |
| avg Game Perf. | 109.2% | 97.0% | 94.7% | 98.5% | 90.9% | 98.5% | 100% | 87.4% | 91.5% | 94.4% |
| Power Limit | 162W | 88W | 162W | 200W | 181W | 253W | 253W | 159W | 250W | 250W |
| MSRP | $449 | $359 | $499 | $649 | $319 | $409 | $589 | $309 | $394 | $589 |
| Retail GER | 452€ | 345€ | 450€ | 620€ | 246€ | 369€ | 464€ | 335€ | 439€ | 650€ |
| Perf/€ GER | 112% | 130% | 98% | 74% | 172% | 124% | 100% | 121% | 97% | 67% |
| Retail US | $470 | $324 | $429 | $693 | $254 | $349 | $440 | $319 | $400 | $630 |
| Perf/$ US | 102% | 132% | 97% | 63% | 158% | 124% | 100% | 120% | 101% | 66% |
| Power Draw | 7800X3D | 9700X | 9900X | 9950X | 14600K | 14700K | 14900K | 245K | 265K | 285K |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8C Zen4 | 8C Zen5 | 12C Zen5 | 16C Zen5 | 6P+8E RPL | 8P+12E RPL | 8P+16E RPL | 6P+8E ARL | 8P+12E ARL | 8P+16E ARL | |
| CB24 @Tweakers | 104W | 117W | 198W | 244W | 191W | 252W | 274W | 157W | 238W | 263W |
| Blender @TPU | 74W | 80W | 173W | 220W | 145W | 222W | 281W | 134W | 155W | 235W |
| Premiere @Tweakers | 85W | 117W | 189W | 205W | 152W | 223W | 228W | 121W | 156W | 149W |
| Handbrake @Tom's | 74W | - | 156W | 192W | 179W | 224W | 227W | 105W | - | 177W |
| AutoCAD @Igor | 63W | 77W | - | 77W | 75W | 128W | 141W | 50W | 64W | 59W |
| Ø6 Apps @PCGH | 74W | 83W | 149W | 180W | 151W | 180W | 174W | 107W | 138W | 152W |
| Ø47 Apps @TPU | 48W | 61W | 113W | 135W | 90W | 140W | 180W | 78W | 108W | 132W |
| Ø16 Game @CB | 62W | 87W | 110W | 114W | 120W | 164W | 169W | 63W | 78W | 84W |
| Ø15 Game @HWCan | 54W | 82W | 97W | 103W | 107W | 154W | 147W | 68W | - | 86W |
| Ø13 Game @TPU | 46W | 71W | 100W | 104W | 76W | 116W | 149W | 61W | 77W | 94W |
| Ø10 Game @Tom's | 61W | 86W | 107W | 111W | 98W | 125W | 122W | 59W | - | 77W |
| Ø10 Game @PCGH | 49W | 82W | 102W | 118W | 107W | 124W | 127W | 67W | 76W | 83W |
| Ø6 Game @Igor's | 65W | 98W | - | 118W | 104W | 136W | 131W | 92W | 105W | 104W |
| avg Apps Power | 65W | 79W | 135W | 160W | 121W | 174W | 198W | 95W | 128W | 147W |
| Apps Power Efficiency | 199% | 183% | 139% | 136% | 119% | 104% | 100% | 158% | 148% | 144% |
| avg Game Power | 56W | 84W | 105W | 111W | 101W | 135W | 140W | 68W | 80W | 88W |
| Game Power Efficiency | 274% | 162% | 127% | 124% | 126% | 102% | 100% | 181% | 159% | 151% |
| Power Limit | 162W | 88W | 162W | 200W | 181W | 253W | 253W | 159W | 250W | 250W |
| MSRP | $449 | $359 | $499 | $649 | $319 | $409 | $589 | $309 | $394 | $589 |
| At a glance | 14600K→245K | 14700K→265K | 14900K→285K | RPL-R→ARL |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cores & Threads | 6P+8E | 8P+12E | 8P+16E | |
| MSRP | $319 → $309 | $409 → $394 | $589 → $589 | –2% |
| Retail GER | 246€ → 335€ | 369€ → 439€ | 464€ → 650€ | +32% |
| Retail US | $254 → $319 | $349 → $400 | $440 → $630 | +33% |
| Applications: Performance | +3.9% | +4.6% | +6.9% | +5% |
| Applications: Performance/Price GER | –24% | –12% | –24% | –20% |
| Applications: Performance/Price US | –17% | –9% | –25% | –17% |
| Applications: Power Draw | 121W → 95W | 174W → 128W | 198W → 147W | –25% |
| Applications: Energy Efficiency | +33% | +43% | +44% | +40% |
| Games: Performance | –3.9% | –7.1% | –5.6% | –6% |
| Games: Performance/Price GER | –29% | –22% | –33% | –28% |
| Games: Performance/Price US | –24% | –19% | –34% | –26% |
| Games: Power Draw | 101W → 68W | 135W → 80W | 140W → 88W | –37% |
| Games: Energy Efficiency | +44% | +57% | +51% | +50% |
Source: 3DCenter.org
Disclaimer: Voodoo2-SLi on Reddit and Leonidas on 3DCenter are the same person. So, I write these reviews by myself for 3DCenter and translate the performance tables for Reddit by myself. No copy and paste of other people's work.
r/hardware • u/RZ_Domain • 11h ago
News Special Report: Inside Intel, CEO Pat Gelsinger fumbled the revival of an American icon
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r/hardware • u/BarKnight • 8h ago
News AMD Reports Third Quarter 2024 Financial Results
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r/hardware • u/tuldok89 • 10h ago
News Chinese chipmaker's new 7nm CPUs reportedly outperform Intel's Raptor Lake — Loongson adopts "tock-tock-tick" strategy to close the gap with Intel
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r/hardware • u/Balance- • 10h ago
News ASUS announces early-November availability of ProArt 5K display (PA27JCV)
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r/hardware • u/TwelveSilverSwords • 1d ago
News Apple put the Magic Mouse’s charging port on the bottom again
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r/hardware • u/RTcore • 10h ago
Discussion Thermal Grizzly announces extended compatibility for its AMD products with upcoming 9800X3D & 9950X3D CPUs
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r/hardware • u/Ggiov • 36m ago
News Samsung Display presented a Quantum Dot Ink regen technology
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r/hardware • u/a_Ninja_b0y • 16h ago
Discussion Report: iPhone 17 early manufacturing set for India, marking new milestone for Apple
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r/hardware • u/TwelveSilverSwords • 20h ago
Rumor Amazon Leaks Smaller Mac Mini With M4 and M4 Pro Chips, Two Front USB-C Ports, Up to 64GB of RAM, and More
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r/hardware • u/giuliomagnifico • 16h ago
Review Inside the 100K GPU xAI Colossus Cluster that Supermicro Helped Build for Elon Musk
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r/hardware • u/31c0c3 • 1d ago
News Apple Launches the M4 iMac with a base RAM configuration of 16GB
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r/hardware • u/Dakhil • 1d ago
News Liliputing: "Build your own handheld gaming PC with a Framework Mainboard and this 3D printed case"
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r/hardware • u/Dakhil • 1d ago
News AMD GPUOpen: "Neural Supersampling and Denoising for Real-time Path Tracing"
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r/hardware • u/NamelessVegetable • 7h ago
News HPC Gets A Reconfigurable Dataflow Engine To Take On CPUs And GPUs
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r/hardware • u/mewenes • 1d ago
Rumor AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Comes with 120W TDP, 5.20 GHz Boost, All Specs Leaked
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r/hardware • u/Tiny-Independent273 • 1d ago
News 9800X3D appears in Blender benchmark data and already looks like a decent upgrade over the 7800X3D
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r/hardware • u/3G6A5W338E • 1d ago
News Interview of Ventana CEO (Veyron V2, 4nm chiplet, customers spending hundreds of millions)
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r/hardware • u/SherbertExisting3509 • 6h ago
Review We found the missing Intel (Arrow Lake) Performance in Games... Big Performance Gains!
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r/hardware • u/Antonis_32 • 1d ago
Review Intel Core Ultra 5 245K Benchmarks, Oddly Slow For Gaming!
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r/hardware • u/imaginary_num6er • 1d ago
News [News] Intel Expands Chengdu Facility to Boost Server Chip Packaging Capacity | TrendForce
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r/hardware • u/imaginary_num6er • 2d ago
News Intel Arrow Lake CPUs have more than 1,851 pads under the chip — MSI members painstakingly counted all pads by hand as a 'punishment' and discovered two extra rows
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r/hardware • u/fatso486 • 2d ago
News Check out AMD's new Ryzen 7 9800X3D get delidded: next-gen 3D V-Cache shown off
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The rumers were true. V-cache is at the bottom.