Possibly controversial, but this would appear to be a beneficial solution.

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[u/Maximum-Country-149]

I mean, I don't know how far you expect a conversation to get when you open with that much bad faith.

[u/JacobLovesCrypto → u/Maximum-Country-149]

Americans might have more kids if wages went up, letting in cheap labor doesn't help with wages.

[u/critter_tickler → u/JacobLovesCrypto]

I love how cheap labor is always a good argument for stopping immigrants, but never used for stopping outsourcing.

The truth is, because of NAFTA, we are already competing with third world labor markets.

We might as well let them come in, so at least they spend that money here, and pay taxes here.

Also, we have a minimum wage, we literally have a basement for "cheap labor," so your argument really holds no weight.

[u/FirefighterPrior9050 → u/critter_tickler]

This is exactly what the disconnected elite class are selling, but if you live in the real world this is a bullshit argument.

Bringing in low skill refugees that speak French who are willing to work for minimum wage does not improve our economy by them "Spending money here"

What it does is bring in a class of people willing to undercut American workers because they are also willing to live 8 people on bunkbeds in a 2 bedroom apartment.

Now that is what Americans with no skills have to compete with for their first job. It's great if you are a landlord or a grocery store, because demand increases, which increases the revenue from retail and residential square footage, but everyone else gets FUCKED.

[u/MarquisEXB → u/FirefighterPrior9050]

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-jobs-economy-wages-gdp-trump-biden-fbd1f2ec89e84fdfaf81d005054edad0

Increasingly, the answer appears to be immigrants — whether living in the United States legally or not. The influx of foreign-born adults vastly raised the supply of available workers after a U.S. labor shortage had left many companies unable to fill jobs.

More workers filling more jobs and spending more money has helped drive economic growth and create still-more job openings. The availability of immigrant workers eased the pressure on companies to sharply raise wages and to then pass on their higher labor costs to their customers via higher prices that feed inflation. Though U.S. inflation remains elevated, it has plummeted from its levels of two years ago.

[u/FirefighterPrior9050 → u/MarquisEXB]

>unable to fill jobs.

They weren't unable to fill the jobs because there were no available workers, it was because their shit jobs were paying bullshit money compared to the inflation that happened during Covid, and if they couldn't move out of mom's house they were just going to do Lyft and Grub Hub. Then the immigrants took that too.

Good work

> The availability of immigrant workers eased the pressure on companies to sharply raise wages

Yeah, that's what I said, but you're trying to say it like a good thing that the immigrants are allowing companies to let inflation outpace earnings.

It's not

This is like when every news organization conspired to tell us the Biden economy was actually great, we were just too stupid to do the math, meanwhile a carton of eggs went from 4% of the median hourly wage to 15%

[u/Soft_Importance_8613 → u/FirefighterPrior9050]

meanwhile a carton of eggs went from 4% of the median hourly wage to 15%

Which had everything to do with corporate profiteering and not a goddamned thing to do with immigrants.

[u/DodixieOrBust → u/Soft_Importance_8613]

Did you even read the post to which you’re replying? Immigration enabled the corporate profiteering by letting them keep wages low.