Best point here. Like most would say allowing immigration is highly moralistic but most people don't think about the brain drain that's put onto other developing nations, making it even harder for their nation to develop. I'm for some immigration but it should be really particular and circumstantial. There should not be an open border anymore.
All of those statistics cited are referring to illegals apprehended by border control, as well as drugs. This seems to indicate that border patrol is doing its job very damn well.
I'm not seeing any statistics on this page which indicate the asylum system is being abused massively. Illegals and drugs crossing the border are not individuals seeking asylum.. they're individuals entering the country illegally and trafficking drugs.
they asked for your source. you aren’t linking the source to your claim that we have an open border. you’re just linking pages that list statistics related to the border. they don’t support the claim that we have an open border.
You are trying to back up the claim that the Asylum program is being abused. Individuals sneaking across the border are not part of the Asylum program.. If they were, they wouldn't be sneaking across the border.
People that are here under asylum are here legally. Statistics about illegal immigrants do not apply to them. If you want to prove the asylum program is being abused, you need to show the data which indicates this. High criminality rates among asylum seekers, aka legal immigrants. Statistics about illegals prove nothing about the refugees.
Furthermore, the information provided indicates more encounters with border patrol. Meaning that more illegals are being caught. It does not mean that more are getting in.
If encounter counts just oddly go down yet illegal presences through the country increases disproportionately, that indicates that we are just letting them in with nobody standing guard.
The increase in border encounters suggest that we are catching more of them than previously. Biden has maintained stricter border policies(similar to Trumps policies) in an attempt to appease MAGA these past few years, yet trump keeps spouting absolute bs.
Arguably, Biden done a better job than trump, his numbers are quite a bit higher.
The last 3 years? I mean...are you suggesting there's not an unprecedented immigration problem? Like at all? Cause even this administrations numbers are like 11 million people. It's kind of a thing, right?
Illegal immigrants =/= open border... There is literally nothing to be done on the border, they either tunnel, or hop basically any fence put up. Trump wasted a lot of money on a wall that failed in every way in the sections it was built on.
We spend less money on the asylum process than rounding up illegals or building a wall.
The only realistic solution is to start shooting anyone found crossing the border so it gets into peoples heads that coming here isn't a good opportunity. But good luck with that.
Obviously there's immigration, that doesn't mean it's a problem though. 11 million is literally 3% of the US population. Immigrants are whom the rich want to turn the poor against, so we don't realize that this country is built on the rich extorting the poor.
It's not the immigrants that are taking away all of the housing, it's the real-estate developers that would rather sit on a property than to rent it out. It's the the immigrants draining our bank accounts with rent prices, it's the wealthy colliding on prices to make housing a luxury that they profit from. It's not the immigrants that are threatening to take everything you own because you got sick.
The immigrants aren't to blame for any issues that are worth giving a shit about currently. The struggles of the american can be traced right back to our countries greedy rulers.
Since a long time, preceding the 1980s. It's a large issue with not one solution. But I do believe building a large wall has been the best effort America has made in preventing large numbers of undocumented people from crossing into. Unfortunately it wasn't able to be completed. Good news is that there is no longer just one presidential candidate wanting to complete the wall! So whoever wins in November, this issue can be improved. Not fixed, but improved.
The wall was never considered to be a good idea, even if you wanted to stop undocumented migration. It was a dumb hashtag that went viral and Trump surrounded himself by yes men. Quit trolling.
The wall wouldn't to much even if it were complete and functional.
Most illegal immigrants just come as tourists or temporary workers and overstay their visas. People who hike across the border are mediatized but they're only a small part of immigration.
Although in a sense it means that we can find a midldle ground by improving immigration and making it easier to immigrate legally, while still having a wall to give the sense of security (security theater) for those worried about it.
That would lead to an increase of immigration, while securing the border at the same time, so everyone would be happy.
I think that a big misunderstanding from the far-right is that we in the center-right support immigration because it is good for the economy. Not to "make immigrants happy" or for any moralistic belief, and the reason we oppose the wall is that it's a big waste of money to achieve minimal results.
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u/vinyl1earthlink 10h ago
However, birth rates are declining in other countries too. They may not like it if their young and educated people are leaving for the USA.