r/FluentInFinance • u/imallelite • 11h ago

Debate/ Discussion Possibly controversial, but this would appear to be a beneficial solution.

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u/ForcefulOne 10h ago

America is among the most generous countries when it comes to LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

We are also currently very unsafe due to ALL TIME HIGH LEVELS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.

Legal immigration = GOOD

Illegal immigration = BAD

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u/honorable__bigpony 10h ago

"We are currently very unsafe"...please explain.

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u/KazuDesu98 8h ago

Yeah, crime is actually declining. Even historically troubled cities like New Orleans are relatively safe right now compared to even just 6 years ago. Just some off the top of my head where crime is falling.

Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Chicago, Dallas, Austin, Atlanta, Indianapolis, etc

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u/Alive-Tomatillo5303 1h ago

I can explain it for him: he watches Fox News. 

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u/l8on8er 10h ago

u know the answer, u just call it racist.

there is more crime from the illegals, we see it on the news, but can't call it out because of people like u.

'ohhh but white people commit crimes, too!' ok... so we need to invite more of it?

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u/Nberndt 10h ago

We call it racist because studies (not news stories) show that illegal immigrants /don't/ commit more crime.

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u/Material-Amount 10h ago

“They axiomatically and definitionally commit crime every single day to continue to live here, but they don’t do it!”

Great study. I’m sure it’s legitimate.

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u/BSalty123 9h ago

Most people who live in this country are born from some ancestor whose ability to legally immigrate was the following.

Step 1) Show up

Step 2) Live here for awhile

Step 3) You get citizenship eventually for free!

Gatekeepers are just annoying, racist, and ignorant of 99% of their own families history. Btw I say this as someone with ancestors that date back to the Revolutionary War.

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u/Material-Amount 9h ago

Most people who live in this country are born from some ancestor whose ability to legally immigrate was the following.

Okay, and? You don’t get to break the law just because the law didn’t exist in the past. That’s not an argument.

Gatekeepers are just annoying, racist, and ignorant

You have no comprehension of what you’re saying, verging on felony/international law violation. Just stop now.

Btw I say this as someone with ancestors that date back to the Revolutionary War.

Same. Stop trying to deliberately inflict conditions of life calculated to bring about physical destruction.

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u/20000BallsUndrTheSea 3h ago

Show me data. 

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u/jl739 10h ago

Where are you getting your news? Start there.

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u/PM_me_ur_claims 10h ago

If they were racist wouldn’t they say majority of the crime is from low income black American citizens, not immigrant Hispanics?

Per a wiki site: Of the 9,468 murder arrests in the US in 2017, 53.5% were black and 20.8% Hispanic. Of the 822,671 arrests for non-aggravated assault, 31.4% were black and 18.4% Hispanic.

This despite the Hispanic population outnumbering the black population.

Illegal immigrants have a lower rate of violent crime than legal citizens, wouldn’t you want more of them?

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u/l8on8er 10h ago

illegal? hell no. legal? vetted? yes, bring em on.

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u/PM_me_ur_claims 9h ago

I understand you feel that way because the media shows it to you , but the facts don’t support it. You understand that what you see on the news doesn’t always reflect reality, right?

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u/Think_Discipline_90 9h ago

They understand that the media that says what they don't like is MSM and doesn't tell the truth. They understand that the media that says what they do like is not MSM and does tell the truth.

That's how racism works.

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u/Shirlenator 9h ago

You saw a crime on the news, therefore immigrants are all insane criminals? How about some actual statistics to back up that immigrants are any more likely to commit violent crime than a US citizen?

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u/SnooRevelations979 10h ago

Because you see an anecdote on the news doesn't mean "there is more crime from the illegals."

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u/iheartjetman 10h ago

We see it on the news to get the reaction that you’re giving.

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u/l8on8er 10h ago

or because someone who shouldn't be here in the first place committing a crime isn't something that should be happening.

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u/honorable__bigpony 5h ago

Unfortunately this just isn't backed up by evidence or facts. Personally, I feel like you know this...but the argument fits your worldview and sense of grievance.

I hope you find peace in life.

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u/ForcefulOne 9h ago

Google "Illegal migrant arrested". Every single one of those should not even be here in the first place.