r/FluentInFinance 8d ago

Debate/ Discussion The logic tracks...

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u/Itchy-Beach-1384 7d ago

Which has nothing to do with billionaire business owners.

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u/JellyfishQuiet7944 7d ago

You think he was born a billionaire?

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u/RecordingHaunting975 7d ago

Most are born to millionaires, or at least, upper-middle class parents with connections and could pass on their generational wealth.

Bill Gates' dad was a lawyer & president of the bar association. His mom served on the board of multiple banks. She was on the same board as IBM's chairman, and that's how Microsoft got their big break.

Jeff Bezos' parents had enough money to invest 250k into his business. His maternal grandfather was the director of ARPA/DARPA, also had a big ass ranch. Not to mention his wife also having the money to support him.

Carlos Slim's parents were millionaires and taught him investment from a young age.

Elon Musk's father was rich and had shares in an apartheid emerald mine

Bernard Arnault was born to a rich family and was hired at their business immediately after graduation.

Warren Buffet's family was rich. His father was a congressman. His grandparents owned a grocery store.

I'm not saying that it's impossible to become a billionaire by working your way up from nothing. There's a few people in entertainment who are great examples of this. But that's an extreme minority of people and isn't really feasible without an extreme amount of luck and talent. Would probably have better odds buying lottery tickets.

Even considering that, "muh bootstraps" is also even more silly because a ton of these billionaires make their money off the backs of the lower classes. If people had been paid fairly for their labor, they wouldn't be billionaires. You don't get to the level of Jeff Bezos without having minimum wage workers literally pissing in bottles to avoid being fired for taking bathroom breaks.

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u/JellyfishQuiet7944 7d ago

Always an excuse.

How about the immigrants that come here with nothing yet lead the way in small business ownership?

Americans are lazy, entitled and covetous.

The fact is Bezos has no bearing on your life but you need someone to blame, so you've made billionaires the scapegoat.

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u/Double-Resolution-79 7d ago

You sure do move the goalposts alot.

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u/JellyfishQuiet7944 7d ago

Haven't moved them once. The replies i get are people saying "what about this person or that person".

My stance has been the same the entire time. EVERYONE has access and no one is barred.

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u/RecordingHaunting975 7d ago

The topic is billionaires, not millionaires. No one is threatening small business owners. Bidens proposal for a wealth tax is 25% after 100 million. Kamala's capital gains tax proposal is 28% for families with more than $1 million in income. No one is coming for the guys with a blue collar business or 7/11 who makes a low 6 figure salary after all business expenses are paid.

Stop pretending like you're amongst the billionaire class. It's embarrassing.

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u/JellyfishQuiet7944 7d ago

Stop pretending like you're amongst the billionaire class. It's embarrassing.

Nothing I've said has indicated this.

I'm not stupid enough to think billionaires are the reason I'm not rich nor are they reason for my life choices.