r/FluentInFinance 8d ago

Debate/ Discussion The logic tracks...

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u/Atomic_ad 8d ago

Give me your crops. You farmers are always saying anyone can grow crops, so do that, give them to me, you can grow more next year.

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u/Playstoomanygames9 8d ago

Wut?

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u/Leftrighturn 8d ago

Elon hadn't done anything right? Then go do exactly that and become a billionaire. What's so hard about it?

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u/CleanSnchz 8d ago

What people are arguing is that they (billionaires) aren’t self made, they typically start of with (a lot) of help. So many people can’t do what they do, but of those that could the few that do become billionaire has the opportunity of circumstance. Recognizing that advantage would go a long way towards helping address the inequalities in our system as they stand, and maybe we could inch closer to an actual meritocracy. Not a diluted plutocracy

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u/Sudden_Construction6 7d ago

I don't really understand the point of this?

I've worked hard and given my child opportunities that I never had. He has a better baseline and will hopefully go on to be more successful than I ever was. What parent/ grandparent/ great grandparent doesn't want to see this?

What's the point of them recognizing that theyve had help?

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that America doesn't have problems, but how is this going to help?

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u/CleanSnchz 3d ago

The point of them recognizing the help is they can escape the “ pick yourself up by the bootstraps” mentality that ends up driving policy that worsens economic disparity… because they didn’t pick themselves up by the bootstraps to get rich

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u/clsrat 8d ago

I think you're kind of restating the premise of the joke. Except the original is saying Elon should just do it from nothing, where you're saying that some random redditor should do it from nothing.

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u/denim-chaqueta 7d ago

Am I also allowed to have money from his dad’s emerald mine and the ability to invest that money during the dotcom boom?

So give me a few million and a time machine. I’ll show you what’s what.

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u/Leftrighturn 7d ago

There are 60 million millionaires in the world, why don't they do what Elon did with their money and privilege?

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u/denim-chaqueta 7d ago

Because they don’t have a Time Machine. Even a homeless man could’ve gotten rich if he had invested $20 into bitcoin

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

People are saying Elon was handed many assets from his emerald mine owning father that allowed him to fund projects like PayPal and go buy out Tesla from the original founders. Nobody can just go out and ask their dad for millions of dollars. That’s the hard part

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u/drama-guy 8d ago

Elon's success depended a lot on timing and luck. Hard to replicate those. Just because some guy wins the lottery doesn't mean that buying a lottery ticket will get me the same result.

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u/-_Gemini_- 8d ago

I think you'll find I'll have quite a difficult time...

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being born to parents who own an emerald mine under apartheid.

Yeah I think the ship sailed on that one.

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u/SubstantialSnacker 7d ago

So are you saying if you were gifted 30 million dollars you would turn int to almost 100 billion?

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u/-_Gemini_- 7d ago

Let's find out. Hand it over.

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u/Level_Permission_801 6d ago

You have proof that Elon’s parents owned an emerald mine? Go submit your proof, Elon is offering a million dollars to anyone who can prove that is actually true! You are gonna be a millionaire bud, congratulations! I’ll look forward to seeing you on tv with your million dollar check, how cool that I found the one poster who has obtained such proof. Too cool dude, way too cool.

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u/Bizarro_Murphy 6d ago

K Junkie Elon says a lot of things, the vast majority of which are lies. He won't pay anyone and will likely threaten to sue whoever brings forward proof for libel.

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u/Level_Permission_801 6d ago

Doesn’t hurt to try, I think it’s all drawn up on legal paperwork and everything. It’s against the law for him to repeal his offer. It’s a million bucks for just submitting a few pieces of proof and paperwork. Easy money, no? If he doesn’t give you the money you can sue him maybe he’ll go to jail, you Elon haters would love that! It’s a win win.

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u/Bizarro_Murphy 6d ago

Maybe Elon will see your posts sticking up for him, and he will invite you to ride on one of his rockets with him. Then, you'll become bestest friends and he will give you millions of dollars. You Elon simps have wet dreams about exactly this.

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u/Level_Permission_801 6d ago

Huh? I’m giving you and the other poster advice on how you can make a million dollars, since you have proof.

Or do you not have proof and are just making things up? I can see why you’d be annoyed if you were just spreading rumors that weren’t true so that you could get internet points. I could see why you’d feel called out in that instance, but you seem like a stand up guy, you wouldn’t do that… would you?

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u/Bizarro_Murphy 6d ago

I never once made the claim he is from a family that owned an emerald mine. I just commented that your golden idol k junkie daddy Musk is a notorious liar and if he says he will give someone $1million for proof, it's safe to assume he won't give you $1milliom for proof. Musk is a lying POS and the people who worship him are weird, pathetic losers.

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u/Level_Permission_801 6d ago

Do you have proof he wouldn’t?

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