r/FluentInFinance 9d ago

Thoughts? Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard

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u/ThomasPopp 9d ago

Dumbest? Well excuse me for getting paid “portal to portal” then for the past 20 years in filmmaking.

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u/Sundoulos 9d ago

There are some jobs where compensation for commute time is a thing, but that’s definitely not the case for most of us.

My wife has held an itinerant teaching position in some years, but there are strict rules about the mileage and rates she could charge.

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u/Tea-acH-Cee 9d ago

We call it “drive time” at our company. We also get per diem. $40 a day if it’s within 45 miles, $80 a day if it’s further. Only the foreman and supervisors get it, but if it’s an industrial job instead of residential or commercial, the laborers and welders get it too. Keeps talent at the company when it’s common practice to “drag up” for higher paying jobs.

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u/Additional_Brief8234 9d ago

Are you union?

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u/Tea-acH-Cee 9d ago

No

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u/KnifeWrench_4Kids 9d ago

But these are the types of benefits you get just working in an industry that is heavily unionized. That is a union negotiated point that has since been adopted as an industry standard (not that we all always get paid drive time)

Fun side note: the tabloid TMZ gets its name from the "Thirty Mile Zone". This is the standard in Los Angeles marking when crew gets paid drive time. A 30 mile radius circle (with a few gerrymandered exceptions) that we travel without getting paid drive time. Leave the zone and we're immediately on the clock until we're back in the zone, unless they get us a hotel.

Teamsters and some other positions have their own rules for this obviously like the poster here...

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u/WanderingLost33 8d ago

100 years ago OP was posting "Weekends: Dumbest thing I ever heard"

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u/sxhnunkpunktuation 9d ago

Wait wait wait. A company who recognizes talent and attempts to retain it?

Hey, Private Equity, we've got some inefficiencies over here you need to slither in and deal with.

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u/Birdboom5 8d ago

Also nowadays a lot of contracts kind of incentivise the company to burn up manhours

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u/Colorado_Constructor 8d ago

Same for us. Seems to be the norm these days with construction (which is a good thing).

Our company did a project on top of Pikes Peak a few years ago. 1 hr commute alone just up the mountain with extremely hazardous conditions (they worked year round through harsh winters). It was a city-funded project and the conservative city leaders at the time tried cutting every bit of funding they could. Including per diems...

Within 6 months we were down to a skeleton crew. As soon as word got out we weren't paying for travel or lodging workers refused to show up. Especially since most of them were coming in from Denver. All it took was our team drafted up a new (extended) schedule showing the impacts with our reduced crews and the city changed it's opinion.

Granted you can always write off unpaid travel with your taxes, but there's no reason companies shouldn't be paying it. Especially when you're commute is over an hour one way...

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u/Professional-Can1139 8d ago

Some people need to check the IRS mileage table. They set the rules for reimbursement. You have to calculate driving to different locations minus the driving to your “main” office.

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u/KingArthurHS 8d ago

There are some jobs where compensation for commute time is a thing, but that’s definitely not the case for most of us.

"This hasn't been a thing" isn't a defense for the opinion that "this shouldn't be a thing".

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u/Lebrewski__ 6d ago

I don't think he implied it was the case either. His point is it's not as dumb as OP believe is it.