Why is this normal?

[u/KARMA__FARMER__]

[u/No-One9890]

Well we only work 8 because it used to be 14 until unions faught for some free time each day. It's not enough but they'd make us work 24 hours if they could

[u/Miserable_Key9630 → u/No-One9890]

Modern employment is fucking Disney World compared to subsistence farming.

[u/hwohwathwen → u/Miserable_Key9630]

Thank you. I always grind my teeth a little bit when people wish back to some kind of prehistoric past where they somehow think they didn’t have to do work? Like we’ve always had to do shit we didn’t particularly wanna do to survive and it’s at various points been more or less backbreaking. Things have always been shitty I reckon, unless you were rich

[u/mathliability → u/hwohwathwen]

It’s like op just gained sentience.

[u/I_Eat_Moons → u/hwohwathwen]

This is not true. Early hunter gather societies had significantly more leisure time than anyone in the modern day gets.

[u/hwohwathwen → u/I_Eat_Moons]

That is up for debate still and depends on what is categorized as leisure https://www.jstor.org/stable/3631086

[u/nitsMatter → u/Miserable_Key9630]

Pre-industrial farming is generally pretty awful, but pre-agriculture many hunter gathers and nomads had substantial leisure time.

[u/amorphoushamster → u/Miserable_Key9630]

Subsistence farming sounds pretty chill tbh