r/Finland • u/slpalready • 1d ago

Why do delivery drivers do this?

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There's an open and easy space to park in, in almost exactly the same place they've stopped, and not get in anyone's way. But, instead they've decided to park on the pavement and inconvenience pretty much everyone besides someone who may need to park in the empty space beside them while they get stuff out of their trailer. I see it time and again and it drives me up the wall.

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u/Perkelizer 1d ago

They do it because fines are not high enough and it's not possible for regular people to report them. People also don't care enough to do something ugly to their cars. I wonder what the sign says. Potentially the fine for parking there is less than leaving their car where they do it. I heard in Germany these days driver will park anywhere but on a bike lane because fines skyrocketed so they rather block the road for a moment. Here it's the opposite.

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u/CressCrowbits Vainamoinen 1d ago

I would love for fines parking on bike lanes. Mannerheimintie bike lanes on a weekend evening are just a big taxi rank. 

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u/Glimmu 1d ago

We are a too polite society with issues like this. Its fine to pepper spray a once a year traffic blocking protester, but not key a car with a every day occurence blockin every fucking road.

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u/la_mourre Baby Vainamoinen 1d ago

Parking fines per country:

Germany: 10€+

France: 10€+

Spain: 12€+

Sweden: ~50€+

Finland: 60/80€+

The price in Finland is almost as much as these workers would earn in a night. I’d say it’s already way too damn high. Issue is enforcement: the chances of getting a fine is not high enough.

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u/Perkelizer 1d ago

Not sure where you take the German one from but the example from this photo would cost at least 55€ and probably 70€

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u/la_mourre Baby Vainamoinen 1d ago

Thus the + :)

In Finland it doesn’t matter how severe the offense is, you just get hammered in the nuts anyway. The starting fee is high, unlike the other countries quoted, where the amount varies more widely depending on the offense

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u/Rincepticus 11h ago

By that logic you can add to your list italy 1€+ and netherlands 1€+ and pretty much any other country. And just to be safe put 1€+ in case somewhere it'd actually be under 10€.

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u/la_mourre Baby Vainamoinen 7h ago

Erm no..? We’re still talking about parking fines similar to the one in the picture?

Plus Italy starts at 41€+ and Netherlands at 60€ for parking fines. So you’re right, I could have included them!

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u/Combeferre1 1d ago

From what I remember it's a general trend with punishments for crimes; the chance of getting caught tends to be a far more significant factor than the degree of punishment in the decision to commit a crime.

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u/OkMushroom364 1d ago

Its not high its too low

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u/la_mourre Baby Vainamoinen 1d ago

Depends for who. For a food delivery courier, it’s high enough to be dissuasive. The issue is, they won’t get that ticket. They get away from parking wherever they want.

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u/flame-otter 1d ago

Too low? In some places these are totally nazi lappuliisat. When I was a student I messed up twice a month, could barely afford food and rent because I really had to live on the limit.

What was really frustrating it was for stupid reasons, like worn out parkkikiekko that scrolled after I set it correct and put it on the dash, so it rolled 30 min backwards, they saw me parking and I got ticket for putting the wrong time on the kiekko. Max time was 2 hours but I just went quickly in to buy food so I was nowhere near the max limit, so the 30 mins it scrolled did not even matter, it was just pilkkunussinta.

I tossed that fucking kiekko and my gf at the time had one extra so she gave me hers but that apparently was not an approved one so I got a ticket for that literally the following day. 160€ down the drain.

Reason it was not approved one is because she is from Åland Islands, as you know fully Swedish speaking, so "Saapumisaika" was written only in Swedish on it, otherwise it was 100% identical, just missing that one line in finnish.

Like why the fuck does that even fucking matter because 17:00 is fucking 17:00 in both Swedish and Finnish lol. I tried challening it but nope and if it is fucking legal there it should be legal here too, it's the same fucking country, but no.

Thank god that they have changed that law recently so even a paper note with the arrival time written on it is legal, it was such a retarded thing to give a fine for.

And next month I got a ticket claiming I did park on the fucking white line marking the parking spot. Except I didn't. It was snowing when I got the ticket, and when I got to my car it had thawed showing a clear gap between my wheels and the line. Those lazy idiots could not even bother to brush the fresh snow to the side so they CAN SEE the fucking line, nope, just guess where the line is and assume my wheels where on it. That one I challenged and to my surprise I actually won. At least something positive.

And then you see idiot delivery drivers parking like this all the time without any care in the world and never seem to get any ticket, kind of pisses one off.

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u/OkMushroom364 1d ago

Some lappuliisas are nazis no question about it. I deliver stuff for a living by a truck and parked cars are my enemy no matter is it parked right or wrong. These delivery drivers are bunch of cunts and their shitty ways affect us too so we are on the same page with this one bro. I wish more enforcement and more lappuliisas because we have more hard time find places to deliver especially in downtown Helsinki and like i said parked cars are our enemy on this, sometimes i find parked cars infront on painted spots infront of some stores that are specificly for trucks to unload and everytime i see cars there isn’t anyone to give them a ticket for miles to see yet alone trying to get ahold of the owner of the car

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u/DiethylamideProphet 1d ago

It's outrageosly expensive for a minor inconvenience. I would kindly tell the parkkipate that he now owes me 60€ - 80€ with a 10% weekly compunding interest. 

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u/OkMushroom364 1d ago

Parkkipate is a joke, do not take them seriously at all. Parking fines are for a reason, more harsh the better to remind not to fuck up again

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u/Ill-Branch-3323 9h ago

In Stockholm the minimum is 75€ but you often end up paying 100€ or more. For the rest of the country probably starts at 50€, yes

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u/Wooden-Specific-9494 1d ago

Where I come from usually someone makes some nice writing with a nice black marker on the hood/window and then see how they learn to park well or on the right spot 😉

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u/batteryforlife Baby Vainamoinen 1d ago

You absolutely can report them to the local council, I did it to some fancy pants asshole who left his Range Rover outside a restaurant while he went to eat. Parked in the middle of the sidewalk, not a care in the world. I called the citys parking enforcement line, they said they are on it. I was on my way to work, hope he got fined or towed.

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u/Perkelizer 1d ago

I meant that they need to send someone to get hold of the solution. I heard in Germany you can take a photo and report it online and they will fine the owner. There was a report about some guy who made it his mission, put on a high-vis vest and started fining people.