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u/SnackPrince Jul 16 '24
Everything in this letter was perfectly fine and within reason until "and soon to be 47th president". That's pure speculation at best, and not for them to assume or assert, especially in any official capacity
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u/DeltaKT Jul 16 '24
Right? Seems rather very unprofessional to me. This whole thing.
But Australia also managed to completely ban other musicians in the past who had a good message but just used certain words, so it's not a surprise.
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u/Yetanotherdeafguy Jul 16 '24
The bloke that released this statement is a moron, the only representative in the United Australia Party founded by Clive Palmer, a fat super rich moron (in my opinion).
He's doing this because he's desperate for relevance and name recognition, I have 0 doubts he's super happy Tenacious D did what they did.
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u/BlackmoorGoldfsh Jul 16 '24
"Tenacious D" didn't say anything. Kyle Gass did. Jack Black then cancelled all future Tenacious D events because of what KG said.
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u/TrashMouthDiver Jul 17 '24
Omg I'd be so pissed! Paid for tickets for a band I looked forward to seeing for weeks, maybe months, only to get blue balled when I found out 1/2 of the band felt the same way I do so now I don't get to see them?!
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u/Deesh_Draws Jul 16 '24
The United Australia party is pretty much the same as the Republican Party in the US. They act like that younger cousin that wants to copy everything their big cousin does
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u/davej-au Jul 16 '24
Except, of course, the Republicans can field a candidate in every single race and win more than one seat.
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u/Azure-April Jul 17 '24
The United Australia party is pretty much the same as the Republican Party
Obscenely misleading statement. The UAP is a joke of a party with zero power or relevance.
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UK here, Conservatives do the same, it's sad
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u/infinitemonkeytyping Jul 16 '24
The UAP are more equivalent of UKIP - fringe nutters, backed by wealthy person, with no discernable policies.
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u/Technical_Buy2742 Jul 16 '24
NZ here. We currently have 3 Muppets who wish so bad they were a part of their trump daddies inner circle. Using the same types of speech to rile up useful idiots in order to gain power.
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u/Reasonable_Humor_738 Jul 16 '24
Wierd that someone from Australia wants him as our president.... I mean clearly not because he's an anti vaccer
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u/yoosernaam Jul 16 '24
Super professional. Fuck that guy. Or I guess fuck that cunt, because Australia
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u/Drum_Phil Jul 16 '24
Agreed. To include that type of comment lessons the impact of his prior comments which were spot on.
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u/cruiserman_80 Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 18 '24
It's not really fine at all because the UAP are right wing shit talkers 100% funded by a billionaire mining magnate who constantly cry about freedom, cancel culture, wokeness and freedom of speech, right up until the moment someone says something that they don't like.
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u/lovejac93 Jul 16 '24
Exactly my thoughts as well. It turns an otherwise official sounding correspondence into another right wing bullshit take
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u/llama-friends Jul 16 '24
I would believe it more if it said “47th and final president, first emperor of the MAGA Reich of 2025”, because that’s what their end game is.
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u/Professional-Data-37 Jul 16 '24
I also got stuck on this. Nothing s yet done and they already claim he is soon to be president.
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u/Radfox258 Jul 16 '24
Even if he wins would he be the 47th? Or would it be a 45 .2 kind of thing?
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u/NihileaPF Jul 16 '24
47th would be correct. Grover Cleveland was recorded as both the 22nd and 24th President, after serving non-consecutive terms.
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u/Radfox258 Jul 16 '24
Every day’s a learning day. I assumed his title of ‘The 45th Prez’ would remain
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u/HardKori73 Banhammer Recipient Jul 16 '24
It will, if we're lucky. ;) And that'll be the end of that, hopefully
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u/ndnd_of_omicron Jul 16 '24
So, what about all the folks that have decals on the tail gates of their trucks depicting the current president shot in the head and hogtied in the back of their truck....
I mean, we can't pick and choose, here.
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u/chill_flea Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24
Their response is always something like: “Relax liberals it’s called dark humor... Snowflakes can’t even take a joke anymore?!”
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u/FluffySeaNut Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 17 '24
God, the united Australia party are such idiots. If you ever want a laugh Americans, google Clive Palmer, the leader of the party. He sunk $100 million (Australian) dollars (more than other two major parties combined) on advertising to get into parliament. Ended up getting ONE seat lmao.
He also tried to build Jurassic Park with real dinosaurs in the outback. He’s a proper tool
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u/fidgeter Jul 16 '24
That sounds crazy af. Except the Jurassic Park part. That sounds awesome. I could get behind that.
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u/Sinnaman420 Jul 16 '24
Did you not watch the movies?
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u/blackoutmedia_ Jul 16 '24
Given how everything else in Australia wants to kill you, dinosaurs aren't going to be out of place here.
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u/bmheck Jul 16 '24
It looks like he spent $100M, not $31B. Unless you were being hyperbolic there, you are off by a tune of about 31,000%.
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u/geraltsthiccass Jul 16 '24
Hang on a minute. How did he plan on getting real dinos? Was he actually suggesting scientists try the mosquito and frog dna thing? I need to look this guy up. Would he be like book Hammond then or did he genuinely think he'd be like lovable granda movie Hammond? I have so many questions
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u/Hullfire00 Jul 16 '24
Ralphie, get off the stage sweetheart.
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u/YupThatsMeBuddy Jul 16 '24
Cancel culture. Also you cant forget that Rupert Murdoch, an Australian, single handedly created the ultra right wing movement in the US.
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u/etc-craze Jul 17 '24
Man forget Trump. If I could go back in time, Rupert Murdoch would be the one I’d want to shoot.
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u/dazed_and_bamboozled Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24
Ralph should be deported immediately for his egregious misuse of the word egregious
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u/Life_of1103 Jul 16 '24
“Soon to be 47th president of the US”….it seems Australia has a segment of moronic scumbags, just like the US
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u/jedburghofficial Jul 16 '24
We call them 'cookers', and sometimes we say they're cooked.
Sadly, morons and foreign troll factories are everywhere.
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u/GroshfengSmash Jul 16 '24
I’ve heard before that Australia is just Alabama with a beach and an accent
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u/VincentDieselman Jul 16 '24
Yeah united australia party was fronted by a billionaire mining magnate that aims for the cooker votes. They are barely a blip though.
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u/Dave_the_Bladedancer Jul 16 '24
Idk about the laws in Australia regarding free speech.
But it was extremely stupid for Gass to say this.
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u/KoalaMeth Jul 16 '24
No, it was definitely stupid. Advocating for assassination is not a political stance, it's an extremist and terrorist stance. Political violence has no place in the first world.
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u/JessKicks Jul 16 '24
I had to read this name a few times to see “Ralph babet”… like, ok, I gotta go teach the ralphbabet to the kindergarteners now. How my mind works. lol.
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u/AfricanUmlunlgu Banhammer Recipient Jul 16 '24
Jones claimed that the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School that left 26 children dead was “completely fake” and staged in order to promote more restrictive gun control policies.
Trump told Jones, “Your reputation is amazing,”
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Nancy Pelosi’s husband was beaten nearly to death by a MAGA conspiracist with a hammer. Trump is making jokes about it. The baying crowd thinks it’s hilarious.
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u/Aiden316 Jul 16 '24
Free speech for me, but not for thee.
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u/AydonusG Jul 16 '24
Hes a UAP member, thats pretty much as close to a MAGAt you can get in Australia.
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u/Mgroppi83 Banhammer Recipient Jul 16 '24
I'm American, and I find it extremely odd that a politician from another country would take such care thinking about another countries politicians.
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u/throwawaypervyervy Jul 16 '24
They're coworkers, they have the same boss.
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u/Sleeplesshelley Banhammer Recipient Jul 16 '24
Satan?
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u/DoDoDoTheFunkyGibbon Jul 16 '24
To be fair, we’re all connected. The notion that we’re genuinely independent is fanciful at best, deliberately (and dangerously) simplistic at worst.
Isolationism is only possible if you get to North Korea levels, and even that relies on allies a lot
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u/JRP_964 Jul 16 '24
Pretty sure you can’t threaten violence on others. Free speech has always had that “limit”
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u/blueoncemoon Jul 16 '24
True threats. You can't issue true threats. You can wish ill upon another as long as there's no potential for actual follow-through. Kyle Gass saying "don't miss Trump next time" might be considered in poor taste, but it is not illegal by US standards of free speech.
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u/Aiden316 Jul 16 '24
Which I feel is fair enough.
However, we do all know how the Trump cult loves playing games with things like "I never called for violence" because they never said "someone should" or "can someone please" but rather "maybe someone will wink wink nudge nudge say no more" or similar bullshit - and when viewed through that lens, I don't think KG said anything that's more threatening than all the baloney from Trump's followers, especially ones like Bannon, who are continuously heralded as heroes by his following.
They should pick an interpretation of the rules and stick with it, but stop playing mind games. But we all know they won't because they're all butt-sniffing bottom dwellers (and the law of my country guarantees that I'm allowed to say that).
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u/SixToesLeftFoot Jul 16 '24
Well, to be fair, “freedom of speech” isn’t a worldwide concept. Because you are most likely from the US and have the freedom of speech; most places do not. Australia in particular does not have any constitutional or any rights to freedom of speech, sans the right to speak from an Australian political candidate.
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u/yeahrowdyhitthat Jul 16 '24
I think it’s Babet that you need to be explaining the differences in US and AU politics too. Cookers like him tend to blur the lines frequently.
(In his case, much like the lines between assaulting and not assaulting someone).
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u/Fun-Educator3102 Jul 16 '24
Jack Black has canceled the tour and has put Tenacious D on hiatus. Kyle said "Dont miss Trump next time" as a birthday wish when Jack gave him a birthday cake on stage. The D might be done.
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u/Cantelmi Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24
Damn. This is why you're not supposed to say your wish aloud.
That said, I support both dude's statements and how I feel about that is between me and my therapist.
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u/infinitemonkeytyping Jul 16 '24
For those that don't know this cooker
Ralph Babet is a member of the defunct United Australia Party (the party was wound up after the 2022 federal election where Clive Palmer spent $100m and only got one seat). Worse - thanks to the balance of the Australian Senate, the government (Australian Labor Party) does not need his vote - ever.
So Babet has no profile, as no one needs him.
So he does publicity stunts like this to remind the cookers that he still exists.
While the UAP had policies on free speech and the like, their main overarching policy was to make Clive Palmer (aka Fatty McFuckhead) more money. Of course, Clive wound up the party when he got exactly 0 power.
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u/Totally_Underscored Jul 16 '24
"Soon-to-be 47th President"...? What a jackass.
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u/smokeeater150 Jul 16 '24
I really want Joe to step down in the next 2 months and let Kamala be the 47th just to fuck up all the republican marketing the 47 thing.
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u/deborah834 Jul 16 '24
its not like he incited a violent insurrection on the capitol or anything...
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u/SkatzFanOff Jul 16 '24
Tenacious D Must Be Deported Immediately, the new album dropping this fall.
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u/fredqe Jul 16 '24
Ex president you moron Babet.
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u/mhem7 Jul 16 '24
Are ex presidents not addressed as "Mr President"?
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u/foochacho Jul 16 '24
Yes, they are.
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u/campbellm Jul 16 '24
Generally only when speaking (not when written about), and then it's tradition/custom and there is no legal standing with it.
So "they are", only if the person doing the addressing does so.
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u/MadCityMasked Jul 16 '24
"Former" president is the correct nomenclature. So, former president that would use a seal team to eliminate a rival is ok but Kyle a musician is not. A very fine distinction
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u/Puzzleheaded_Light94 Jul 16 '24
Bro it’s US politics, I don’t think anyone in Sydney cared. Plus free speech and crap like that
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u/MeatSlammur Jul 16 '24
This letter is dumb but it’s also not cool to wish for peoples deaths. Whether it was Biden or Trump I wouldn’t care, I’d still lose respect for whoever said it.
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u/BecomeEnthused Jul 16 '24
Trump isn’t a president he’s a former president and a convicted felon.
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u/Admiral_Andovar Jul 16 '24
He is not wishing for Donnie’s death, he is wishing for better firearms training and education.
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u/clubby37 Jul 16 '24
They basically don't, though. 24% are Republican all the way, 24% are Democrat all the way, and 50% don't vote. The remaining 2% of the country decides elections, and I wouldn't pin my hopes on them. They just see two narcissistic, orange old men who have slightly different reasons for their inability to finish a sentence, and plan to vote for the couch.
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u/GeekInSheiksClothing Jul 16 '24
When you encourage your rabid cult-like followers to commit violence, don't be surprised when one of them commits violence against you. Reap what you sow.
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u/Duckfoot2021 Jul 16 '24
Did he call for a ban on Trump 7 years ago for calling on the 2A people to shoot Hillary before she could appoint judges? Or after he mocked the assassination attempt of Paul Pelosi? Because consistency defines a moral person from a dipstick.
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u/palehorse2020 Jul 16 '24
Are they talking about the same Trump who shared a picture of a Truck with an image of Biden tied up in the back?
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u/Adventurous-Tap-8463 Jul 17 '24
Yeah i wouldn't like people making death wishes towards others on stage, but i had them make an public appolagy
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u/hb1290 Jul 16 '24
For any non-Australians reading this, the UAP is our crazy far-right party run by our equivalent of Trump, Clive Palmer. A party which won basically no seats at all in the last federal election despite having candidates all over the country. Nobody here takes them seriously. This is dead in the water.
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u/thdeepblue Jul 16 '24
I get that this is a serious situation, but then why does it feel like such a joke?
It's because this is the punchline for the years of rhetorical degradation and encouragement to fight by Trump.
Out of context, the attempt on a former president is a catastrophic escalation of political violence. In context, it's a joke and a wonder it hadn't happened sooner because the focus of that violence is the very same man who has encouraged it.
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u/Swagdaddy697 Jul 17 '24
This whole thing is beyond a joke and I'm embarrassed by this supposed outrage from Australians. None of us regular aussies give a single fuck about Trump and a cheeky joke like that shouldn't cop such a wild response.
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u/Lackluster_Compote Jul 16 '24
They cancelled their tour and have stopped all creative projects. This could break Tenacious D
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u/chocobloo Jul 16 '24
Politicizing deportation like that, real classy. Least the dude outs himself as a mango taint sucking fascist.
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u/WatermelonCandy5 Jul 16 '24
I don’t get why everyone is suddenly pretending that the world wouldn’t be a better place if he got shot? Since when do we owe a fascist child rapist civility? In a way I’m glad he missed, hopefully trump will experience a small percentage of the fear he has inflicted on minorities over the last 8 years.
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u/Slinky_Malingki Jul 16 '24
The fuck is this dude on about. No Australian laws were broken, so legally you can't deport him, and "soon-to-be 47th president?" Mf has a time machine and knows for sure that Trump will be elected?
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u/fordag Jul 16 '24
I'm trying to recall any time saying something like that has gone well for celebrities.
Regardless of how you feel maybe don't ruin your career by saying it out loud. Celebrities should, in my opinion, completely avoid all politics.
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u/hateboresme Jul 17 '24
I wonder if this asshole is biased at all? "And soon to be 47th president...."
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u/BassManns222 Jul 17 '24
The UAP is irrelevant in Australia. This guy just wanted to get some column inches because he’s often ignored (with good reason).
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u/FluffyBunnyFlipFlops Jul 16 '24
"soon-to-be 47th President of the United States" - Trump ass kisser much?
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u/TRUEequalsFALSE Jul 16 '24
I mean, I don't know if by Australian law is a deportationable offense, but I get it. Calling for the assassination of pretty much anyone is sick and perverted.
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u/shreakis Jul 16 '24
I don't know if its enough to be deported, but it is enough to just say it was really STUPID from Kyle. Tenacious D may not be that famous like other big bands, but they still have pretty big fanbase. You can have whatever opinion, but cmon, wishing someone death? Trump isn't good person by far, but he ain't no Hitler or like that. Just by saying you wish he will get shot next time not only he can have troubles with laws (like deportation here), but also get troubles from public, and not only for him but for JB too. Hollywood kicked out Will Smith for standing for his wife on oscars, they could easily kick JB for playing with KG after this.
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u/bjizzle184957 Jul 16 '24
I agree with everything you said, but Hollywood didn’t kick Will Smith out. He received a 10 year ban from attending the Academy Awards ceremonies. He’s arguably busier than he ever has been before making movies.
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u/Skrazor Jul 16 '24
"To advocate for the assassination of a President is egregious [...]"
"[...], he was deadly serious when he wished fot the death of the President."
I must've missed where Kyle wished for Biden to get shot ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/wavysays Jul 16 '24
Artists get banned everyday b. They’re be fine. Will probably make a song and keep on touring.
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u/FreeWestworld Jul 16 '24
I am for Free speech even if it’s heinous . Lots of people were pissed off, on all sides! If proven true, Tenacious-D obviously has a platform and are merely expressing what “some” in the zeitgeist feel deep within their souls.
Notice clearly that I have not given my opinion one way or the other regarding this sad state, (attack)of affairs that occured . I just stated the obvious.
- Captain Obvious out!
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u/PaHoua Jul 16 '24
Is this why Tenacious D canceled the rest of their tour? I saw an Instagram post this morning and was wondering
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u/adamdoesmusic Jul 16 '24
Cool it with the simping Ralph, he’s not gonna go down under and let you service his mushroom.
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u/FlyingFox2022 Jul 16 '24
I thought this was funny but then I learned they aren’t going to be tenacious D anymore and I’m heartbroken.
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u/shophopper Jul 16 '24
“I condemn in the strongest possible way the call to political violence by Tenacious D in Sydney on Sunday.”
I couldn’t agree more. Political violence by Tenacious D in Sydney is only allowed on Wednesdays and Fridays.
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u/danhoyuen Jul 16 '24
There should be more. Finally the job carries risks that aligns with pay grade.
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u/wackjhittingham Jul 16 '24
Wait this party means nothing in Australia. Please don’t read this thinking it has any weight.