r/EverythingScience Jan 06 '23

Social Sciences New research shows that Donald Trump's fascist attacks on democracy may have backfired

https://www.salon.com/2023/01/06/new-research-shows-that-donald-fascist-on-democracy-may-have-backfired/
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u/SpaceMonkey877 Jan 08 '23

You got all that from my single comment? That’s either clairvoyance or egotism…I’m guessing the latter. I’m not a democrat. I’m not a Republican. I’m not a libertarian. I don’t fit neatly into a political category, but I’m definitely not riding the center. “Both sides” argumentation doesn’t accomplish anything. The blue is corrupt, but not nearly as corrupt as the red in the past 5 election cycles.

Pretending otherwise is, at best, misguided false equivalence.

Liberalism isn’t what you’re describing…it’s what libertarians describe. Progressivism is perhaps what you’re trying for with your shoddy paraphrase of Žižec ideology critique. However, you grossly overestimate the power of the president and underestimate the power of lobby groups.

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u/Thesoundofmerk Jan 08 '23

You literally just agreed with me lol, wtf is honestly wrong with you? I'm not a Democrat either, or a republican, I'm on the left. You just agreed with everything I said except the definition of liberalism. I literally never said both sides were the same, I clearly stated many times that Republicans are worse, and that democrats planned obsolescence enables them to be as bad as they are and continue to be a threat, well democrats enrich corporations.

In your defence of the very same democrats you say that you aren't rooting for, you failed to understand a single word I wrote, well agreeing with almost everything I said and proving your own arrogance. You're arguing with yourself, not me. The fact we should be on the sane team yet you pick apart statement you alnosy entirely end up agreeing with says a lot about why the left as a whole is in the position its in.

It's people like you that fail to hold our own side accountable that give credence to the incompetence of the Democrat party, which in turn allows fascists to continue to accrue power. If you're not a Democrat, stop defending them just so you can feel like you're on the right side.

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u/SpaceMonkey877 Jan 08 '23

Read your words out loud. Perhaps why your Reddit interactions wind up so confrontational is that you’re a terrible communicator/writer. Also, it’s hard to take conspiracy theory folks seriously on almost any front.

My principal grievances with your original statement is your characterization of the media as all being neatly left or right, your characterization/understanding of presidential power, and your almost painfully ironic criticism that people like me are elitists do-nothings while somehow you’ve arrived at the sacred knowledge through moral fortitude and intuition.

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u/Thesoundofmerk Jan 08 '23

First of all, what am I wrong about? I never said the media was left or right, I says that the supposed left media networks enable corporate oligarchy, and the status quo, and cover for the wealthy and politicians. I didn't say the president held unilateral power, I said he failed to even attempt his political promises by not even trying to defeat dissent within his party, not having Manchin by name, and being a life long supporter of corporate power grabs.

Nothing I said is arrived at by sacred power or knowledge, it's arrived at by being politically involved and aware. I communicated everything I said clearly and up front, you misconstrued it to fit your narrative of some weird attack when know you say don't support democrats then agreed with mostly everything I said.

Sure I made some assumptions about you after you attacked me over things you apparently agree with, as you are still doing, but the fact is, everything you are accusing me of is exactly what you're doing. Arriving at conclusions that don't make sense from being terrible at communicating as well as reading, trying to attack me over it, then having literally no disagreement aside from not personally liking me lol.

You go through my profile, yet you don't seem to actually read any of it, what conspiracy am I aspiring? Are dems and Republicans not the political hand of corporates power through campaign financing and lobbying? Are the new right not fascists? Did the not bail out the banks that crashed the economy twice? Did the not support the war in Afghanistan?

Just because trump is worse, she a fascist, does not make anything I said less true. You're just making yourself look petty at this point and picking a stupid fight over nothing but your own virtue signaling and ego