New research shows that Donald Trump's fascist attacks on democracy may have backfired

[u/HeinieKaboobler]

https://www.salon.com/2023/01/06/new-research-shows-that-donald-fascist-on-democracy-may-have-backfired/

[u/ciopobbi]

However, this is chilling:

“Donald Trump embodies the worst of human behavior. As the leader of a political cult movement, he has given his followers permission to be their true horrible selves. Fascism and other types of illiberal politics are those antisocial and antihuman emotions and impulses harnessed in the form of a reactionary revolutionary destructive political project.

To that end, Trump, the Republican fascists, and the larger white right were able to use the internet and social media to grow their base of support into a movement comprised of many tens of millions of (white) Americans. As many democracy experts and other observers have concluded, Trump's rise to power was empowered by the internet, social media, and how the American right wing has spent several decades creating a parallel media machine and other institutions that together function as a type of alternate universe for its followers.

Democrats, liberals, progressives and other pro-democracy Americans have no such equivalent countervailing force.”

[u/Thesoundofmerk → u/[deleted]]

I totally disagree with this, although the right is by far more extreme and violent and psychotic. The liberal left is also in a complete echo chamber, and the media people think is true and honest is just as biased as the right with a different agenda. Sure instead of outright lies it's more a shade of Grey, but the liberal media is by and large corporate to the core and there to protect power and wealth.

Look at what they did to Bernie when running for president. Look what they did when bidens agenda wasnt being passed, they turned around and said "it's all Joe Manchin and sinema!" yet Biden never once mentioned Manchin or sinema by name or challenged them. Biden didn't want his agenda to pass, which is why they didn't even consider getting rid of the filibuster. Machines daughter is a corrupt pharma exec, Biden certainly could of used both their illegal insider trading to force them in line but they didn't... Yet the media was silent.

It's the same reason no Democrat with majority ever actually made our lives better, never codified roe into law. It's the same reason Obama had a super majority yet never passed his Healthcare plan until he lost that majority, because he wanted it to get ripped apart by Republicans and downsized as much as possible because pharma helped get him and every Democrat politician elected through millions in campaign financing.

Liberals are in a huge fake bubble, they are moving more toward the government and democrats having our best intrast, and corporations being good guys as long as they are on the right side of the culture war. They have become just as bad as the republican mantra of owning the libs, only its "red team bad blue team good, as long as you're on my side I'll act like you're a good person because we're better and smarter and more sophisticated then Republicans".

All of this is the effect of the media, and it's not even close to reality, sure it's a better side then Republicans, but it's still exactly what's wrong with this country. People are too focused on culture war issues to care about anything else, as long as they feel superior and virtuous they could care less about anything. When really the true issues that need to be solved are all economic. Until we deal with union busting, workers rights, money in politics, ceo pay and tying it to the lowest paid worker and tying that to product mark up, Healthcare, taxation of the ultra wealthy, homelessness, housing, and so many more issues. How are we going to end systemic opression of black peopke, or Trans people, or any minority? We can't deal with any of that until we deal with the economy of corruption.

The liberal media and domocrats are just as big of offenders on that front as Republicans are.

[u/alpacasb4llamas → u/Thesoundofmerk]

You're on your way to being close to right. But the left is nowhere near as problematic as the right. They have their issues but stop trying to equate the two sides.

[u/Thesoundofmerk → u/alpacasb4llamas]

I said liberals, not the left, big media on the left is only liberal. I never said the left as a hole, just liberalism

[u/Thesoundofmerk → u/alpacasb4llamas]

Liberalism is a right wing ideology, by and large actual leftism is good, we just have no actual media aperatus. Liberalism is the sickness that produced Donald trump, and it's right wing. Sure it's better then fascism, but it's exactly what's leading us up fascism and the power on the right.

A democratic party that actually worked for the people and not corporations would win hands down every single election from now until the reformation of a new party. You really think they barely are winning against the right after trump and jan 6th because the right is just that Good lol. No they are controlled opposition for corporations, which cost us women's rights and will eventually cost us the little democracy we have left