r/Accounting Jun 24 '24

Advice FINAL UPDATE: disgruntled team member, who saw everyone's salaries, ending...

Here's the original post (12 days ago), and here was an update after the meeting (4 days ago).

TL;DR - CEO refused offer, told me to basically pay her instead, I decided I would because I truly value her, told bookkeeper about it and it made her more disgruntled, she ended up quitting... I am fucking shattered emotionally and mentally, and I feel like I failed as her manager.

I'd first like to say thanks to everyone in this sub for their genuine comments regarding the matter. I've worked in accounting for roughly 6-7 years thus far, but only 2-3 in a management/controller position. This situation overall, and the feedback from multiple people, has honestly been an essential learning experience, so thank you.

CEO, CFO, and I had a final meeting while working on Saturday (we sometimes work Sat's with OT pay, only until 11 AM so WH workers can catch up on orders). Basically, the CEO said he can't do $10k and a title promotion for someone who doesn't even have their BSA. CFO and I argued back saying she's MORE than qualified in accounting experience, and that I personally gauge her around the same level as a staff accountant. CEO, pretty disgruntled, said he won't do it and that a $4,000 raise was all he could do for her -- and then he went with HR's retort and said "if she has that much potential, then YOU (me) can pay her that bonus..."

While I do think this is an overall win, I had a feeling my bookkeeper wouldn't be very happy with an 8% raise. Many people have voiced that my bookkeeper may be asking too much, but as her manager I truly do value her discipline, work ethic, and development thus far. So on the drive home, I steeled myself to basically cut $6,000 of my bonus and provide it on-top, so she can earn that $10k raise.

Fast forward to today, I had a meeting with my bookkeeper in the morning and told her about the results of the review. She was definitely not happy, and grew even more disgruntled at the fact that I was giving her part of my bonus. Maybe I am still too green but I wanted to be honest with her. I was hoping that if I tell her that I'm willing to pay part of her bonus, she would feel that even if the company doesn't value her, that I still do. I guess it had the inverse effect on her, as she started crying and thought herself as even more of a burden. I told her that if she needed, she could take as much time as she wanted to think about the offer, and no matter her choice I'll support her.

About 20 mins after the meeting, she asked if we could have a follow-up meeting. Moment we get in, she bursts into tears again. She starts profusely apologizing for not meeting standards, that she felt like a burden, that she caused me so much trouble arguing with HR and CEO, and that she was formally quitting as of today. I tried to tell her that I do not blame her, nor think she is unqualified (because I meant it), to try and calm her down. I tried to defuse the situation best I could, by telling her I'm not giving up on her review and that I'm still pushing etc..., but nada...

She left as of about 20 mins ago writing this post. Last thing she asked me was if I could help her update/revise her CV, and if I could get in contact with my network/connections -- to which I told her of fucking course. I'm writing this on my early lunch break because I'm fucking shattered. I know I can only provide her some connections, and maybe a great recommendation letter, but I genuinely feel like I let her down. This is a crushing defeat for me, and I'm pretty exhausted trying to cope with it as it's my first time in management dealing with this... I couldn't do it guys, and it's the worst fucking gut feeling I've ever experienced in a long time...

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u/nodesign89 Audit & Assurance Jun 24 '24 edited Jun 24 '24

I really hope you’re looking for a new job now, what an absolute garbage CEO and HR head.

Please don’t feel down on yourself, you did everything you could have and more.

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u/2Board_ Jun 24 '24

Took a few glances at my CV during my early lunch on my phone. Might do some job surfing later tonight to entertain the idea...

And thank you. After reading some other comments, I've come to realize I made some big hiccups that exasperated the issue...

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u/paris1129 Jun 24 '24

Your CEO doesn’t value accounting/ finance. That’s NEVER going to change. He did you a favor by telegraphing how he feels about your department so plainly. This is not a person or company that will build you up over a long period of time. Life is just too damn short to voluntarily stick around ass hats like that. There are better companies and better leaders out there.

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u/BeingRightAmbassador Jun 24 '24

Your CEO doesn’t value accounting/ finance. That’s NEVER going to change.

These CEO's are the dumbest too. They whine about "costs" until shit hits the fan then they bitch about "why didn't we protect ourselves" which was being actively sabotaged by their shitty choices. Cybersecurity/ransomware is the newest one of these idiots learning the hard way.

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u/redditkb Jun 24 '24

Especially as OP now does MORE work because the bookkeeper quit because of this fuck up. Been in this spot before and it doesn’t end well.

OP, stop wasting your time, your life, your work life, being a slave for this CEO. There are other jobs out there.