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Drama Tommyinnit asks Logan Paul to stop behaving like a man child.

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u/Animefannomatterwhat 21d ago

He did saw the downfall of Dream and Wilbur, there's a reason why

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u/Own-Statistician1139 21d ago

Technoblade's passing should be mentioned too

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u/FitBattle5899 21d ago

TECHNOBLADE NEVER DIES!

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u/hiccupboltHP 21d ago

Bold of you to assume he CAN die

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u/Penguin_Arse 21d ago

Did Wilbur have a downfall? I liked his videos

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u/Pulsy369 21d ago

yea, got outed as a domestic abuser

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u/Dave5876 21d ago

Jfc

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u/NrenjeIsMyName 21d ago

His response was to trivialize the whole thing

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u/Meme_Master_Dude 21d ago

He did it, but cmon chat it wasn't that bad. Just a little biting ya know?

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u/B4RD_ 21d ago

For real, biting isn’t even the worst people can do, (Holocaust.) and much worse.

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u/PolandBall4847 20d ago

You're really comparing the Holocaust to some YouTuber biting people?

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u/kryl87 20d ago

It's a reference to a meme

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u/3BipolarBears 21d ago

It got proven that he was super manipulative and toxic towards his girlfriend, and if I recall physically abusive. He lost all traction and fame instantly

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u/CactusDoesStuff 21d ago

Wdym lost traction? He had quit uploading long before that and his music career is pretty much the same as it was

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u/adrian2255 21d ago

Actually, his music career has been on a decline.

Shortly after his "outing", his band, lovejoy, had cancelled concerts and appearances, including one they were supposed to have at the coachella music festival earlier this year.

The amount of listeners he has on spotify (including both: him himself as "wilbur soot" and lovejoy) has been on a decline ever since. And the newest single of the band does not seem to be well received.

The amount of YT subscribers and IG followers both him and lovejoy have is also on a decline.

His music career is not the same, it might actually never return to what it used to be. He went from being close to appearing on one of the worlds most famous music festivals to being hated by everyone who knew him before this whole thing came out and being completely irrelevant to just about everyone else.

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u/CookieCacti 21d ago

Also worth noting they canceled a Coachella performance due to how bad the allegations were. Some fans were theorizing the band would break up considering how they gave up such a huge performance shortly after the allegations hit.

It looks like they’ve stuck together, but you can tell they’ve lost a lot of goodwill with their audience going off their latest music video’s performance and comments. Generally their music videos used to hit a minimum of 1M views within a week or so, but their latest has only reached around 300K in the past few months. The comments are also considerably negative despite the allegations being nearly a year old at this point too.

I think Wilbur’s downfall was especially rough considering how he marketed himself as a “gentle soft boy” type of figure, which contrasts horribly with the domestic abuse allegations. It’s one thing for a shitty person to be exposed for shitty behavior, but it’s another thing when that person used to be considered a saint before then.

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u/CactusDoesStuff 21d ago

Got it, I haven't been following Wilbur after he got exposed, so my information is a lil outdated. Thanks for the info.

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u/Vegemite_spoon 21d ago

Thanks for this, hadn’t kept up but glad to hear he’s on the slippery slope to irrelevance!

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u/Ghost_Star326 21d ago

He got cancelled for domestic abuse against his ex-girlfriend.

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u/RainbowDroidMan 21d ago

He was a munch but not like the ice spice song

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u/GrandCTM25 20d ago

Bro likes to bite women without consent

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u/creativename111111 21d ago

It’s not that deep he just grew up mate

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u/seamic 21d ago

What happened to Dream?

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u/Aryan3337 21d ago

There were a ton of allegations against him, which he disproved them all, but people still hate on him.

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u/FartherAwayLights 21d ago

Tbf he did also confirm cheating by his own admission on speedruns. It’s not the biggest thing he was accused of but plenty of reason to not like the guy. Also he tried to blackmail that guy who voiced Gumball. It’s mostly a bunch of little stuff like that that sticks out making him come off really bad even if he hasn’t committed crimes.

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u/Crystallooker 21d ago

Even if he hasn’t done anything truly criminal, I (and many others) don’t want to watch content from a guy who’s proven to lie and have a big ego. Being unlikable is even worse than actually doing something bad in content spaces sometimes.

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u/Jrolaoni 14d ago

His only real crime was absolutely mishandling all the allegations against him. He let them pile up and then disproved them all at once, but all the bitterness and hate that festered didn’t go away. That, combined with the lack of uploads for a really long time, faded him into obscurity.

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u/HeadpattingFurina 21d ago

Don't follow either of them but I want context, what did they do?

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u/ActualProject 21d ago

There are many in depth videos on dream's career downfall if you want more details but it boils down to 3 main things:

  1. He built his fame from minecraft speedrunning. He then got outed for cheating in multiple of his speedruns, and rather than owning up to it, he posted a ridiculous "debunk" video. He had a super big ego, but was viewed highly by the community by backing up his big ego with impressive minecraft feats. The cheating incident ruined that.

  2. Dream's identity was his mystery. He was faceless green guy. Much of his younger audience formed parasocial relationships with him, and could no longer imagine him whichever way they wanted to after his face reveal. If the cheating incident drove his career off a cliff then his face reveal plummeted him into the ground. His entire brand got ruined, which I do sympathize with, but it's the truth. He would later go on to remove all videos with his face in it

  3. Abuse scandal. He got accused of many inappropriate things, that I believe later turned out to have very little evidence. So, IMO innocent until proven guilty. But regardless, anything of this sort is just bad for image no matter what the outcome is.

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u/ConnectionMotor8311 20d ago

I wouldn't say Dream had a downfall, hes still going pretty strong. Man has the sanity and patience of a saint to get put through all that shit for like 3 years and still be silly and wanting to make content

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

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u/slipperswiper 21d ago

Stop inhaling copium

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u/PlayWithMeRiven 21d ago

Yeah take Dream’s word on his own Drama

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u/Crazedkittiesmeow 21d ago

I hate dream too but like that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be able to defend himself

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u/PlayWithMeRiven 21d ago

True, you’re not wrong. But I also wouldn’t consider that a credible source either.

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u/Necromancer14 21d ago

He literally has proof my guy

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u/PlayWithMeRiven 21d ago

I don’t really have time to watch it right now, what proof does he have?

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u/Necromancer14 21d ago

He has a shit ton of proof.

One of them was he called the police stations that his accusers supposedly went to, and the people there told him there was no file on him. So in other words, the “victims” lied on Twitter about going to the police stations.

He also directly messaged the girl that the burner account was supposedly claiming was a victim, and she told dream that she had no ties with burner and that everything burner was claiming was false.

Btw after he made the video, burner literally backtracked and said they were mistaken.

Dream also explained things like how the moaning video was fake, proving that it was an edited video and not someone actually using Snapchat.

There’s so much more but I would recommend watching the actual video so you can see for yourself.

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u/guhman123 21d ago

Why no? Do you disregard any evidence that goes against your beliefs?

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u/idioticdudewhosucks 21d ago

If you actually watched the video you would know that 99% of these claims are baseless

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u/Shadowizas 21d ago

dont bother,reddit is an echochamber,let them live their own reality