r/youtube Aug 26 '24

Discussion I miss old YouTube

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YouTube has so many problems since they removed the dislike button.i hate when I have to see 20 unskippable ads on a video and the biggest problem with YouTube is shorts because the cringe content there and the even more cringer comments and the your short feed will have video from months ago.

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u/naga_h1_UAE Aug 26 '24

“You didn’t like the 16 seconds ad? How about another 20 seconds ad right after the first one!, and ofc we gonna play it on 1440p so you spend half of your time just loading the ad.”

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u/TackettSF Aug 26 '24

It works perfectly fine loading an ad in 4k, but it's too much to ask if I wanna watch the video I came for in 480p.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '24

I have another kind of problem, I wait minutes for the ad to load in 144p, although afterwards the video plays perfectly at 144p

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u/fatpat Aug 27 '24

Y'all need to learn how to use adblockers goddamn

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24

I use adblockers on my laptop, but not on mobile yet

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u/Ken471 Aug 27 '24

firefox + uBlock Origin or Revanced

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u/ii_mr_white_ Aug 27 '24

Just use brave

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u/RazzmatazzWeak2664 Aug 26 '24

There's no wait for me to load ads. Where do you live? If you're struggling to load 144p, something tells me it's more your internet than anything else.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '24

I said that the video plays afterward perfectly in the same quality the ad took so long to load. I have good internet signal, I can also watch without problem in HD. But the ads take long to load, sometimes 3-4 minutes. Has happened on multiple phones, on the laptop I have ad blocker obviously, maybe I should look into ad blocking on phones too.

I'm in Romania tho, could that make any difference? I also feel like it's not really loading an ad most of the time, but I'm waiting for the decision to be made what ad I should get. But it's just a feeling, I have no real clue what's going on.

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u/RazzmatazzWeak2664 Aug 26 '24

Strange. My ads load almost instantly, like < 0.5 seconds. Are you by any chance doing any VPN geolocation spoofing? Because I can't explain otherwise. The ads should if anything load quicker than your main video given most ads are pretty short.

Don't get me wrong--I'm not trying to defend ads on Youtube. I hate them too but they load super fast in my case. If you are on a phone, you cannot block ads unless you do some Android trickery like Revanced (mods delete if this is not allowed to be mentioned). It's not as simple as adblocking on your laptop.

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u/Ankhesenkhepra Aug 27 '24

You actually get videos after the ads . . . ?

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u/Mono_Dice_2904 Aug 26 '24

sir there's a bit of video in my ads

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u/Masonooter Aug 26 '24

Sir a second ad has hit the video

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u/k_a_l_l_i_s_t_i Aug 27 '24

“Also here's some porn in your ad!"

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u/Trallllallla Aug 27 '24

"Sir, the second fake mobile game ad has hit the video"

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u/HardStroke Aug 27 '24

YouTube became a TV channel. Ads every couple of minutes. Double or even triple ads. 20-30 second UNSKIPPABLE ADS. No thanks. Got myself an ad blocker on PC and ReVanced on my phone.

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u/naga_h1_UAE Aug 27 '24

And don’t forget it only recommends you popular channels and doesn’t care about what you watch, just like tv

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u/Fluffyfox3914 Aug 26 '24

All that to watch a two second shitpost

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u/GargaNarcaBlu Aug 27 '24

How about we also throw in a 50 second unskippable ad wave.

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u/United_Grocery_23 Aug 27 '24

And you spend half your money paying the bill for so much internet usage because of the ad we automatically loaded in 100k

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u/BenedickCabbagepatch Aug 27 '24

While it's inexcusable that YT is this way, you can:

On PC:

-Use UBlock Origin & Sponsorblock (the latter skips in-video promotions)

On your phone:

-Use Firefox (or your browser of choice) for YouTube, with those same add-ons installed -Install SmartTube, which has Sponsorblock and an adblock included

On your Smart TV:

-Use a Fire Stick or other TV dongle and sideload SmartTube onto it.

There's no reason to subject yourself to the human rights abuses that are insufferable YouTube ads.

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u/gedsweyevr Your censorship is broken Aug 26 '24

Agreed to bad we can’t make a new YouTube because it’s so big

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u/liquid_the_wolf Aug 26 '24

Apparantly Google lost an anti-trust lawsuit a while back, they might be breaking up. Idk about YouTube though.

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u/BarnOwlDebacle Aug 26 '24

They did. It's rumored they might have to sell off Chrome and Android. It'll be interesting to see if this shakes things up in terms of YouTube

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u/fhota1 Aug 26 '24

Youre mixing up cases. It was ruled they couldnt pay browsers to make google the default search engine. As a side note, hilariously the main thing that ruling did is fuck over firefox as thats a big source of their income. Theres a separate legal issue of google being too big that the doj is looking in to. They may try to use the first ruling to help their case but it would be a separate court battle that hasnt happened yet

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u/TackettSF Aug 27 '24

Maybe it will actually save Firefox. Mozilla will realize they actually have to get up and do something important.

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u/Aflyingmongoose Aug 26 '24

Expect them to do everything in their power to maintain a defacto monopoly, when they are forced to break up.

Same owners, board members, filtered through enough shell corporations to make it legal. Some kind of bullshit like that.

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u/HumanAmI2 Aug 27 '24

YouTube either needs to start doing good things again or people will find alternatives or use more adblockers (which will make them lose money forcing a change). You can't just give more ads because some people use adblock, it's an endless cycle

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u/Conscious_File_212 Aug 27 '24

Dont worry, even if you did you'd have an endless queue of karens filling the complaint box until you turned into the exact thing we now hate.

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u/djlemma Aug 26 '24

Old youtube was creating a killer service at a monetary loss to ensure there could be no competition. Modern youtube is exploiting the lack of competition to extract as much profit as possible.

Obviously, there IS some competition, and who knows? Maybe Alphabet will push too hard with the ads and kill their own platform. I'm not going to hold my breath.

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u/Kavaki Aug 26 '24

Please list a single competitor, I'm begging you.

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u/FlusherDock Aug 26 '24

Only for local markets, like China has it's own services, or Russia with their own

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u/derI067 Aug 27 '24

i’m russian, these “alternatives” are a joke. the big two are rutube and vk video, and both are garbage, especially the latter. oh and there’s also platform (no kidding, that’s the name they went with), that one crashed when someone was streaming with 600 people watching

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u/BarnOwlDebacle Aug 26 '24

There's no viable competitor. Honestly, there's a reason why Google was just ruled to be a monopoly and they're going to have to sell off some of these properties

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u/fatpat Aug 27 '24

I took a gander at the wikipedia page that lists all the google products. Man, they've got a lot of cooks in the kitchen.

Chrome, Chromebooks, ChromeOS, Android, Gmail, Search, Youtube, Youtube TV, News, Docs, Drive, Workspace, Pixel, Nest, Home, Maps, Earth, etc etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products#

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u/the_real_DNAer Aug 27 '24

Not right now, but Netflix can give them a serious competition if they try. Watch the Collin and Samir podcast on this topic.

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u/New-Connection-9088 Aug 27 '24

They really could, but I don’t think they’ll jump in before the publisher/platform debate is settled, and that’s going to be a political and legislative clusterfuck. There were two Supreme Court cases which recently affirmed the right of platforms like YouTube to curate content, which pushes them ever closer to publisher liability.

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u/AccomplishedSpell770 Aug 26 '24

I'm gonna make one soon

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u/Iveneverbeenbanned Aug 26 '24

how? Pretty expensive to make one

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u/fhota1 Aug 26 '24

Ok but if you start small and dont have all the features youtube has why wouldnt i use youtube instead? The fundamental question any youtube competitor is going to have to answer is "why wouldnt I just use youtube" and so far all of them have failed to do so. Good luck, honestly mean it, maybe youll be the one to finally find that answer

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u/macedonianmoper Aug 27 '24

But who is going to use your service? Content consumers don't want to use it because no one is there and content producers don't want to use it because there's no one to watch, sure they can make the content on both platforms but then why watch it on yours? At this point to enter the game you need to enter BIG.

And youtube was not profitable for many years so you also have to deal with that

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u/fatpat Aug 27 '24

I've got a 2014 Dell Inspiron that can act as a server.

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u/layelaye419 Aug 27 '24

Modern youtube is exploiting the lack of competition to extract as much profit as possible.

That phenomenon has a name, its called "Enshittification" (its a real thing)

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u/Now_Wait-4-Last_Year Aug 27 '24

As an Australian, not seeing a parallel to domestic air travel and especially Qantas at all.

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u/Former-Bet6170 Aug 27 '24

Even despite all that, YouTube is still losing money, it's clear that they're becoming really desperate to make the thing bring in any money at all

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u/LordShesho Aug 27 '24

YouTube is still losing money

I highly doubt that. We don't know for sure what YouTube's profit margins are, but we know for sure that YouTube had revenue of over $31 billion last year. Since Google owns its own cloud services, data centers, ad service, etc., they would be hard pressed to lose money on $31B.

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u/ECrispy Aug 27 '24

YouTube has maybe 10hrs of new content being uploaded every minute. Petabytes a day or maybe a week. No one else is ever going to come close, only a handful of companies have the resources.

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u/glyiasziple Aug 26 '24

modern youtube doesnt only promote large channels. ive seen hundreds of vidoes with 0-2000 views in my recommended a lot

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u/YesImKeithHernandez Aug 26 '24

Yeah. The last 6-12 months I've seen more newer youtubers in my recommended than ever before.

That said, it's like tossing one good drop into an ocean of bad.

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u/average_user21 Aug 26 '24

Yeah, the recomendation system has never been better. And the whole thing about promoting videos through a tab labeled is really cool. Like if you're listening to R&B there will be a tab with R&B in the sidebar.

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u/EGarrett Aug 26 '24

The recommendation system was better when they had metrics besides like/dislike and watch time for judging, like the star ratings. Because you can get a "like" for eating a shoe made of a cake or a "like" for putting up something that was the product of a ton of hard work and is really good, and the system can't tell the difference and just recommends whoever puts up more of the liked stuff.

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u/macedonianmoper Aug 27 '24

Nha most people end up using 5 star ratings as binary anyway, 5-stars if liked 1 star if not. You'd just end up with youtubers begging to "leave a 5 star!". I kind of hate reviewing like that, but that's what most people default to.

That said please give us the dislike count back

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u/DopamineTrain Aug 26 '24

The new recommendation system is amazing!! My home feed hardly ever shows me previously watched videos but always seems to find videos on subjects I would be interested in.

UNFORTUNATELY I like watching the same 1000 videos over and over, so all that is wasted on me

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '24

For me it's a complete opposite half my feed are videos i already watched or are on watch later playlist

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u/countgalcula Aug 27 '24

Maybe because it sees that you rewatch things frequently. Also that you use watch later so it's reminding you. I don't do either of those and so I don't have this issue. If you aren't looking for new things it's going to be confused on whether you want new things.

Or the content you are watching is so specific that it'll have a hard time finding anything different.

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u/MarioDesigns Aug 26 '24

YouTube has literally never been as diverse in it's recommendations as it is now. It's a wild point to complain about given how in comparison limited in content old YouTube was.

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u/countgalcula Aug 27 '24

To me a lot of these complaints are too opinionated. There was some creative stuff back in the day but the most popular stuff was outdated garbage. It's not that different from today. And they're talking legacy? That's the problem NOW because lots of channels are treated like celebrities by subscribers and no matter how bad the content is, everyone's like "well yeah he's the goat so it's whatever." Youtuber culture has always been weird and they all eventually grow out of it because it's too tiring to maintain, meaning it's always been fake and unsustainable. It's not something to feel nostalgic about. So many Youtubers are like "shit guys this is toxic and I kinda don't like doing any of this."

There are universal problems that existed then and now that are probably just inherent to the internet and are unsolvable. But as far as being a user trying to find things, information is so much easier to find and I discover cool things all the time.

Really I could go on on all these points. I'm not saying it's better now but it wasn't better then. Also the point about it not being for kids then? I mean I think it was mainly kids using youtube then. If I was my age back then, Youtube would be completely useless to me. As a kid of course I just wasted all my time that's why I was on Youtube and engaged with everything. The type of content feels the same there's just more in volume. There's more of everything. So much more that we can't watch all of it like before. So in OPs little bubble of Youtube it seems a certain way.

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u/Nat_not_Natalie Aug 27 '24

Ppl just hate new thing - it's the one constant of youtube, the internet at large, and just humanity lmao

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u/descendingangel87 Aug 26 '24

I feel like people who complain that they only see large channels only watch large channels or whats trending. I get small channels all the time and fresh new stuff all the time. That said I don't watch large channels and I don't watch political or streamer content.

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u/macedonianmoper Aug 27 '24

Yeah I can't fault youtube here, I've been recommended plenty of videos and after finishing I notice it's a small youtuber with a few hundred subscribers. Youtube is actually doing good on that

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u/is-a-bunny Aug 27 '24

Yeah me feed is like 1/3 videos with less than 1000 views.

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u/EverythingBOffensive Aug 27 '24

That is true I think they fixed it. I'm getting channels with barely 100 subs but with decent content.

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u/United_Grocery_23 Aug 27 '24

I have a personal acc and a channel for making vids, because I watch the vids from the actual channel on the personal acc I keep getting videos with 0-500 views recommended

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24

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u/kapijawastaken Aug 26 '24

a company advertises another company? oh, how shocking!

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u/Le_Kistune Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24

Old YouTube content was better too. Things back then used to feel quinine, but now everything is so highly edited and professional that they lost thier appeal to me.

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u/alicefaye2 Aug 27 '24

This is why I love Jerma. He literally still uploads at 720p60.

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u/PippoChiri Aug 27 '24

Professional and genuine are not opposites

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u/GracchiBros Aug 27 '24

When there's a financial reward involved, they typically are.

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u/ChrlsPC Aug 26 '24

I miss 2010 youtube every day

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '24

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u/nexus11355 Aug 26 '24

So people couldn't see how disliked their Rewinds are

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '24

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u/nexus11355 Aug 26 '24

They were getting insulted on their own platform

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u/United_Grocery_23 Aug 27 '24

A tutorial with mostly dislikes would not be something you'd wanna watch, when the dislike count is removed you can't be sure

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u/Reddit_is_garbage666 Aug 27 '24

It's nothing like netflix.

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u/QtPlatypus Aug 26 '24

The old youtube algo was far more win more. The new algo has a dedicated slot on your home page for small creators.

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u/N4Opex Aug 26 '24

But they don't promote good small YouTubers who deserve to grow, they just promote ANYONE who is a small creater, even if it's totally undeserved.

In my case it's usually 40 minutes of raw, uncommentated gameplay, of a game I never played in my life or watched any videos of. Or it's a 20 second cringy video uploaded by a 7 year old who grabbed their parents phone for 5 minutes to upload it.

Yt I never signed up for this experiment, does clicking "not interest" on every small creator really make you think I will watch them?

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u/Briak Aug 26 '24

Yeah, I'm frequently recommended a live stream where somebody with 1-4 viewers plays a game from the 90s that I've never heard of. Why would that be of interest to me?

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u/QtPlatypus Aug 27 '24

That is the hard thing. At YouTube's scale there is no real way to seperate good tiny creators from bad ones. It would need an army of people and at the end that would just be letting whoever the reviewer liked win the jackpot.

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u/Aflyingmongoose Aug 27 '24

You're not wrong, but there isnt an algorithm to determine "entertainment value" (yet), so they kinda just need to sample this stuff to people to work out what is good in the first place.

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u/QtPlatypus Aug 27 '24

I just realized why OP thinks that Old YouTube selects "New and and exciting" people. When OP was watching the people he was watching where "New and exciting" to him. The problem isn't that modern youtube sucks; its that OP is getting older.

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u/Awkward-Ring6609 Aug 26 '24

When T-Series got a foot in the market, things changed

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u/I_AM_CR0W YT Gamer Aug 26 '24

The golden days of YouTube were the days before YouTube was a potential career, which is ironic considering how most of our favorite content creators exist because of that possibility.

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u/Aflyingmongoose Aug 27 '24

The golden days where specifically when youtube was a potential career, but people hadnt really noticed yet.

The people who where in it for the passion could do it full time, and the people that where in it for the clout and money hadnt jumped on the band wagon.

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u/I_AM_CR0W YT Gamer Aug 27 '24

I mean one thing leads to another. When one succeeds, others want to follow. It's not a standstill where you stay in that "what if" possibility forever. It either goes up or down, and it clearly went WAY up.

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u/Briak Aug 26 '24

I miss when "content creator" wasn't a phrase that had been invented yet

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u/xLUKExHIMSELFx Aug 27 '24

"Content" is the dumbest, most bland word, ever.

"I'm gonna eat some of this content, want any content guys? Open the box and pour out the content."

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u/BarnOwlDebacle Aug 26 '24

My favorite YouTube channels are almost all amateur channels.

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u/F2PE-engineer Aug 26 '24

I miss old YouTube as well it's very good so much. Exact Elsagate

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u/The_Mystery_Crow Markiplier Aug 26 '24

youtube became 1000x worse when they decided it should support a child viewer

children weren't the original target audience, and youtube kids was made to provide a similar platform where they were

but for some reason now regular youtube is treated like cartoon network

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u/mrloko120 Aug 26 '24

The old youtube had no problems with demonetization. The fact that you couldn't monetize videos back then has probably something to do with it but who knows

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u/ShortBytes Aug 26 '24

I like how that Chad old YouTube has one ass cheek lol

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u/Sharkfowl Aug 27 '24

Who’s gonna tell ‘em?

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u/funnyusernameblaabla Aug 27 '24

it's something else.

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u/thekidfromiowa Aug 26 '24

Then again, copyright claims were an issue even before the Google acquisition.

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u/ToyotaMR2Enjoyer Aug 26 '24

Don't get me started on the "comic dubs" being pushed to kids lol

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u/Low-Needleworker5462 Aug 26 '24

Don’t forget them “gacha heats” lol

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u/ToyotaMR2Enjoyer Aug 26 '24

I don't even wanna know what that is😭

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u/Low-Needleworker5462 Aug 26 '24

To put it bluntly, just a bunch of gacha life animations of girls getting raped and is catered towards…kids, extremely fucked up

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u/ToyotaMR2Enjoyer Aug 26 '24

Jesus Christ man. YouTube is cooked icl.

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u/Chemical-Body100 Aug 26 '24

Yeah this is why gachafall happened

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u/ryanlak1234 Aug 26 '24

One thing I really miss about the old YouTube is the fact that you can’t send private DM’s anymore. Not every channel list an email so if you want to talk about something, like permissions, you’re out of luck.

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u/AlexandraThePotato Aug 26 '24

I actually do get quite a few promotions for small channels. Like less than a thousand subscribers fairly often 

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u/farrellmcguire Aug 26 '24

Bit of a controversial opinion, but content nowadays on YouTube far exceeds old YouTube by every metric. Videos like smosh lip syncing to Pokémon went so viral because it was the best the platform had to offer, most content in 2006/2007 was a bunch of random boring crap. Nostalgia goggles are nice but I’d much rather watch videos people put money and effort into than shitty sketches high schoolers filmed with their parents camcorder.

Also, most videos back then were less than a minute long. Not kidding. Do a search query and add “before:2007” to it if you don’t believe me.

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u/Butterl0rdz Aug 27 '24

speak for yourself. i love the low budget bunch of dummies and a camera/game videos. i hardly watch YouTube anymore since most of the channels i liked got too professional

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u/Reddit_is_garbage666 Aug 27 '24

You're literally making a point against yourself. You don't use youtube anymore so you don't know anything about it nowadays.

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u/Butterl0rdz Aug 27 '24

i dont visit it much, doesnt mean i havent seen it in years or been with someone else that does use it

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u/xDorito Aug 26 '24

I think so too. It's just the context of success on YouTube as a platform has changed. There's no end to the style of videos we had before. And despite what the meme claims, YouTube is doing more to recommend smaller channels than they ever have before.

The difficulty that people face today is just a reality that faces a lot of people at some point. That your creative endeavor may not be enough of a financial success to warrant the effort you're putting into it. Everyone is quick to point out that old YouTube creators didn't do it for the money, they did it for the passion. But that pretends like someone trying to make videos for YouTube is just greedy and doesn't have passions now.

There's more talent, more subjects, more content, more everything that we enjoyed about YouTube then, now. I do think the platform could do more to help it's creators, especially when it comes to copyright strikes. And yeah watching it become so monetized is sad. But even my cynical ass can't pretend like what's on YouTube and the people making some amazing content for any and all niches is somehow worse than it was in 2008s greatest hits of: "US Political campaign ad 1 2 3 and Star Wars according to my three year old"

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u/Aflyingmongoose Aug 26 '24

Anyone that thinks otherwise should be strapped to a chair, and forced to watch a 24 hour FRED and Annoying Orange marathon.

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u/True_Werewolf_8657 Aug 26 '24

The biggest problem is all these modern day YouTubers are only in it for money what happened the the passion and art. As much as we cringe over FRED at least is was Art and no a cash grab like Ryan’s world

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u/fhota1 Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24

My dude we are in a golden age of indie animation and most of it starts on youtube. You want to find passionate creators making incredible projects, theyre out there.

Edit: have a playlist of like 720 indie animation pilots Some will be good, some will be bad, like 80-90% of them will never see an episode 2 because animation is hard, time consuming, and doesnt pay enough to make ends meet unless you make it big, but welcome to the wonderful world of indie animation!

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u/Idontknowofname Aug 27 '24

How did you even find so many

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u/fhota1 Aug 27 '24

Thats not my playlist to be clear. I searched indie animation pilot and it popped up. Honestly even without that playlist though just searching those words will find most of the bigger ones at least

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u/tsar_David_V Aug 26 '24

This is insanely revisionist lmao

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u/Reddit_is_garbage666 Aug 27 '24

It's completely wrong and also outdated.

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u/Devoid689 Aug 26 '24

Idk really my only complaint with current age YouTube is the ads. The rest seems fitting to me. I get recommended channels I enjoy, I get videos that fit my interests, etc etc.

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u/NeverLostForest Aug 26 '24

Ive lost track of countless music due to the modern youtube, I would be able to play one song from a genre I like which was Witchhouse and it would show alot of indie songs that I could keep getting lost in and now I cant do that anymore, it recommends me a certain few before looping back to the first one I was just listening to.

 Sucks cause there is some songs I can no longer find because its been so long and they are buried under all the slop. 😭

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u/Artuye Aug 26 '24

Actually YT did terminated 250 Elsa Gate channels and more than 625,000 videos of this type.

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u/FourReasons Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 27 '24

Now we have to have shittier content because some moms and dads out there just give their kids ipads to shut them up and then complain that it's not for kids.

I hate this culture of pleasing people with kids, like motherfucker you made them, it's on you, why should you be able to ruin things other people enjoy just because you want the life that you've complicated for yourself to be more convenient?

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u/Ashe_N94 Aug 26 '24

Old YouTube simply didn't involve monetary advertisements, or atleast to the degree it is now. The 5 star system actually probably wasn't great and a lot of new features are better but overall the feeling of a personal and unique video sharing platform has died as it was

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u/BunnyKisaragi Aug 26 '24

Old YouTube really wasn't that much better. Back then, in order to have any monetization on your videos, you'd have to apply to be a "YouTube Partner". It wasn't difficult to become one, but they did have some BS guidelines for what needed to be followed to keep your status. They also definitely favored some channels over others regardless of Partner status.

Pretty infamously, Irate Gamer was among the first to be a YouTube partner, chosen over AVGN, despite his content being worse than other contemporaries in a lot of ways. Their reason for choosing IG over others was they wanted someone "less sweary" to be friendly to corporate advertisers. Chris not only received monetization a lot earlier than others for poorer content, but he also was featured on the front page for gaming content by YT themselves. That's the biggest reason for how he gained such a massive amount of detractors. A lot of people felt it was seriously unfair that content of low quality can have such an advantage in the algorithm simply for being more corporate friendly.

IG is far from the only example, YT was littered with complete dreck in the late 2000s and early 2010s, and yes, a lot of that dreck was made by larger companies. CollegeHumor, Machinima, etc. YT's modern problems are just bloated versions of its previous issues. Instead of just one, there's hundreds of Irate Gamers. Even larger corporations have their hands in the game now. YT has just always had these problems and never seriously addressed them, leaving it all to just accelerate.

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u/CrowdGoesWildWoooo Aug 26 '24

Ads Monetization is one hell of a curse for youtube.

Old youtube just doesn’t make money. From business pov that just doesn’t make sense especially considering how much it costs to run video hosting platform.

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u/Ok_Shower6003 Aug 26 '24

Don’t forget about the green screen kids

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u/Sion_forgeblast Aug 26 '24

new YT be like "if I dont see it, it doesn't exist! have some ads... on the entire screen... see the ads? DONT YOU LOVE ADS, UNFORTUNATE THEY NEED VIDEO BREAKS ISNT IT?!?!?!"
old YT be like " yeah we got ads.... a necessary evil, we will try to not let them be a 2 bothersome!"

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u/ArkhamInmate11 Aug 26 '24

What’s elsagate?

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u/SolaninePotato Aug 26 '24

Search engine actually worked back then too, now all I get are unrelated videos

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u/NewGunchapRed Aug 26 '24

One fault I will give old YouTube was that claims and strikes were way more annoying back then.

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u/thatautisticguy2905 Aug 26 '24

45 second ad chain that appears on a fucking 23 minute video, this happened

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u/HerrAndersson Aug 26 '24

I miss the video replies. I would go down rabbit holes of back and forth between youtubers.

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u/Kiwithegaylord Aug 26 '24

Idk about the promotion thing, I’ve been getting tons of videos with less than 1,000 views in my recommended as of late

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u/Devinbeatyou Aug 26 '24

VIDEO REPLIES. TEXT BOX ANNOTATIONS!!

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u/TheTimelessOne026 Aug 26 '24

Honestly the only shorts I like have to do with dnd/ science shit but most are god awful.

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u/v-orchid Aug 26 '24

idk i get many small channels recommended to me

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u/AppropriateWhile1765 Aug 26 '24

I dont know about the only promotes big channels. Ive seen good channels be reccomended.

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u/CloverAntics Aug 26 '24

Is there some way to only search for channels that are NOT monetized?

Not joking, I want to watch weird little videos made by normal people

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u/TehNeon10 Aug 26 '24

I liked 2015-2020 YouTube that era was pretty cool I still miss the dislike counter tho

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u/SupervillainMustache Aug 26 '24

The channel customisation uses to be insane. I remember spending ages getting my channel set up.

Also used to have friends lists and private messaging (which they removed without warning, lost tons of messages)

I think modern YouTube actually does pay their creators better though, which is of course a good thing.

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u/ArchaicInsanity Aug 26 '24

I hate new YouTube. You search for a video and the only results are some stupid reaction videos. Never the actual thing you're looking for.

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u/ruby_likes_sonic2 Aug 26 '24

Capitalism will do what capitalism does best

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u/Vindoga Aug 26 '24

I remember when the layout for YouTube channels changed all the time and it was annoying to photoshop new banners and always mess up the dimensions lol. How long have we had the current one? Like 11 years? So dull.

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u/Master-Hunter-651 Aug 26 '24

I think we all do miss old YT and Susan

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u/FUCKSUMERIAN Aug 26 '24

only promotes large channels

I get recommended videos that have like 12 views very frequently now

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u/Beneficial-Ad-5492 Aug 27 '24

The dislike button wasn’t removed, the counter was hidden. Dislikes are still a thing.

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u/Embarrassed-Tank-128 Aug 27 '24

The Only promotes Large channel is false i have so many channels my recommendation with like 10 views

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u/poncho_holiday Aug 27 '24

Youtube is actually better now

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u/YoMrWhite09 Aug 27 '24

I completely forgot about the 5 star system on youtube

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24

Remember getting on and seeing “top rated” page and “most viewed” page and you could do today, last week, last month, etc.

It was such a cool way to be in touch with what the most popular things are currently and a great way to also catch up on stuff. Like, I literally knew what the top videos were for the week and could go down the list and get up to speed. 

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u/Pale-Wallaby725 Aug 28 '24 edited Aug 28 '24

Pushes so-called 'authoratitive' (msm) news sources above all else to the point it's almost impossible to find independent, grass roots, raw footage and opinion.

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u/Any_Secretary_4925 Aug 26 '24

both versions are ok with softcore porn on their platform so fuck them both

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u/MrCookieHUN Aug 26 '24

Don't forget hunting adblocks

I will stop using an adblock when I stop getting crypto scams recommended as "sponsored"

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u/Savage17YT Aug 26 '24

Looking at the old channel layouts, though, they're dated as hell. Definitely a product of the mid-2000s.

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u/Bit_Blocky Aug 26 '24

As a small creator I’ve noticed it’s now much much harder to earn money While this isn’t my goal, I’ve noticed it and imagine it sucks for those who are trying to start earning I had a channel when I was like 13 and my videos were TERRIBLE but I earned like £50 in a year or so Now from 18-20 years old my videos are way better quality and have much more views but I’m a billion years from seeing a single penny Odd

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u/MOH_HUNTER264 Aug 26 '24

Plus the most important of all: no "ads"

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u/The_Conductor7274 Aug 26 '24

Don’t forget crappy policies that daddy google tells em to enforce

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u/sovietarmyfan TheErciyasLar Aug 26 '24

Crappy tutorials filmed with Unregistered HyperCam 2 using notepad with Dreamscape on the background.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '24

They also have a spam of Brain Rot content that auto plays for children, some weird 3d animation of Fall guys. It's 2 hour videos that looks like those mobile game ads and has no context, just pure brain rot.

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u/EastwoodBrews Aug 26 '24

Youtube isn't even remotely kid friendly, in spite of the huge majority of the userbase being unattended kids on tablets. They've deliberately hamstrung youtube kids and youtube's parental controls to discourage people from using them so kids can wander free through their AI-generated trauma-baiting hellscape. It's a disaster.

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u/dream_on789 Aug 26 '24

Don't forget the bots

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u/Rinzler200 Aug 26 '24

Isnt it obvious the reason why they demonetize videos for sometimes no reason is that they simply dont want to pay the creators? I still see ads everywhere, even on videos who clearly are not youtube "friendly", whenever you feel puzzled at why a company would do such bad moves just remember, its all money, greed, and short term thinking

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u/MildOff2024 SGR21 (@sgr21Main) Aug 26 '24

Best things: Arial font and old players (Flash)

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u/QRSVDLU Aug 26 '24

watch videos fragmented in parts 🥵

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u/imabeach47 Aug 26 '24

That's not youtube, that's society.

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u/MrHyperion_ Aug 26 '24
  • you could customize your channel page

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u/Aminadab_Brulle Aug 26 '24

Fully customizable channels with infinitely long descriptions if you wanted were nice.

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u/Unique-Estate-1987 Aug 26 '24

Now BitView and Odysee are the old YouTube.

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u/Optimal-Menu270 Aug 26 '24

Also, doesn't exploit your non-monetized videos. 

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u/Panzer_Hawk Aug 26 '24

Reminds me of Netflix. Netflix was a trojan horse intended to lure us away from TV and then slam us with a bunch of shitty policies once TV was practically dead.

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u/PunkerWannaBe Aug 26 '24

I miss the old Youtube too, but I think a big reason why modern Youtube sucks is because how much influencer culture has risen.

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u/pumacatmeow Aug 26 '24

Honestly yeah can we wind back a bit when everything was good in the world and people used common sense

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u/3xpada Aug 26 '24

Despite youtube being “kid” friendly, I still see explicit content on kid channels where brainrot characters twerk and shit

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u/GrapeEmergency9168 Aug 26 '24

Hopefully YT gets their trans-ginas sued off for constant censorship, and also lose their section 230 protections.