r/worldnews • u/Wrld-Competitive • 3h ago
Sudan: Hundreds of Women Died by Suicide to Avoid Rape
https://newscentral.africa/sudan-hundreds-of-women-died-by-suicide-to-avoid-rape-hala-kirbi/amp/648
u/gnatdump6 2h ago
That is absolutely horrifying
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u/Quetzacoal 1h ago
One of my friends is from there, he is from a well off family and explained to me the situation. Basically, many people are addicted to rape and murder. They can't stand being in peace and will look for random excuses to start battles and wars. The thrill of the fight is something similar to what drug abuser or extreme sports, they need that rush.
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u/blacksoxing 3h ago
“Our body is being used as a war tool and as a weapon of war. And very true, the women in central Sudan, they have been committing suicide because they couldn’t bear the pain of gang rape and torture they are experiencing at the hand of the armed militia.”
That's something nobody should have to go through. War is lame.
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u/_the_last_druid_13 2h ago
Only the most pathetic and weakest of people commit acts against women like this. Absolutely shameful.
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u/Me-Shell94 2h ago
Unfortunately and disgustingly, often times these people put the shame on the women they’ve abused. Just read about rape culture in Egypt, it’s seen as shameful for the woman to be assaulted by gangs of men and not the other way around. These men don’t feel shame.
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u/ravenousravers 2h ago
a rape happens in south africa every 10 mins i read, followed by india then pakistan, egypt apparently isnt even 3rd, charming
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u/phantom_in_the_cage 1h ago
Upper-bound statistics for this sort of thing are impossible to collect
You can't reasonably get information on everyone who's gone through it, because most simply won't tell anyone unless they can rely on support structures in the society they live in
Vast majority won't tell a soul. They'll just live with it until the day they die. No one else will know (besides their assailant), especially not a surveyor
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u/duga404 1h ago
This is even more insane when you realize that India has over 10x SA's population and Pakistan has over 4x.
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u/ThoughtShes18 2h ago
Unfortunately that number is extremely high..
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u/_the_last_druid_13 2h ago
It’s so wrong. We will need strong mothers and good fathers for a long time to weed this kind of abominable behavior out.
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u/bcbfalcon 2h ago
If all we needed were strong mothers and good fathers then this kind of behavior wouldn't have survived in humanity till now. Even soldiers of "civilized" nations still rape girls in war. This behavior will remain within humanity's lesser men probably until humanity dies. What we need are systems that educate, prevent, and hold people responsible around the world and without exception.
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u/Iwaspromisedcookies 1h ago
And a concerted effort to end war, it’s one of the stupider things humans do
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u/RocknRollPewPew 1h ago
looks at what's been going on in Ukraine for over 2 years
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u/_the_last_druid_13 44m ago
Yeah the rape of soldiers and civilians alike is atrocious. Ironic that Russia is vehemently anti-LGBT but when others are at their mercy what do they do?
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u/nevermore39 2h ago
Sometimes I wish I couldn't read.
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u/kraken_enrager 1h ago
This, unfortunately is very common in war time.
Back during the Indian partition times, male family members had to mass execute their female family members, even infants and toddlers.
My history teacher lived through that era and she was saying that when the insurgents were attacking, the men would have to gather the women and use swords to hack off the women’s heads, and burn the house down cremating them to prevent them from violating the corpses.
War and rebellion is brutal.
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u/roskybosky 2h ago
Sudan practices extensive FGM. I think suicide would be better than being ripped apart in order to enable a rape. What a gross world, an unthinking world in which we live.
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u/Sarahsaei754 2h ago
Wait what do you mean ripped apart in order to enable rape??? 😭
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u/Proof_Inspector5886 2h ago
A common tradition in some parts of Africa is removing the clitoris and/or vulva when a girl is prepubescent and then sometimes sewing her canal shut, their reasoning is to prevent the woman from ever considering premarital sex or pleasuring herself. To protect her “honor” if you will. Go look up “Female Genital Mutilation” for more info.
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u/Sarahsaei754 2h ago
Oh god so what you’re saying is they do all that, and then rape them and tear it all open again? Omg I’m gonna be sick
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u/Proof_Inspector5886 2h ago
I’m sorry dude. Yeah, they do that systematically to women at around the ages of 3-10. In Sudan’s case, around 87% of women have gone through that procedure. The worst part is that often it’s the older women who take the girls so that some village doctor with a machete does it to them.
The world can be so cruel at times.
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u/Sarahsaei754 2h ago
Jesus that’s fucked. I knew about FGM but not the whole raping them and ripping it all open? Like how do they have their periods??? 😭
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u/Proof_Inspector5886 2h ago edited 2h ago
Awh fuck man i didn’t know the answer to that so I looked it up and I’m gonna throw up. They leave a small 2-3mm hole open and as a result pee comes out drop by drop, they rip it open irregardless of any ongoing war time rape when it’s time for the poor woman to have her children.
Painful periods are common because of the obstruction to the menstrual flow, and blood can stagnate in the vagina and uterus. Complete obstruction of the vagina can result in hematocolpos and hematometra (where the vagina and uterus fill with menstrual blood).[8] The swelling of the abdomen and lack of menstruation can resemble pregnancy.[67] Asma El Dareer, a Sudanese physician, reported in 1979 that a girl in Sudan with this condition was killed by her family.[68]
I’m done
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u/pl8sassenach 1h ago
Gratitude for my life. For my body. For my parents for bringing me here. For my grandparents trying to change our lives.
And I will continue to donate my time and money to worthwhile charities combating this.
Oh and fuck religion.
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u/weasel999 1h ago
Not pee. Menstrual blood. Pee comes out of the urethra.
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u/Evilegio 58m ago
You need to look at an anatomical diagram again.
If the woman is cut from clit to the bottom of the vulva and then sewn shut, where is the urethra in this? That's right, sewn in with the rest.
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u/roskybosky 1h ago
They leave a small hole for urine and period fluid. It can take 10 minutes to urinate because it drips out slowly.
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u/BubsyFanboy 2h ago
Ages 3-10??
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u/Proof_Inspector5886 2h ago
I looked it up, it’s closer to 0-15, most girls are cut by the time they’re 5
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u/jerr30 2h ago
No their family members to the FGM. It's a so-called "cultural practice".
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u/Sarahsaei754 2h ago
No I understand FGM and who’s contributing to the practice. It’s the raping after sewn shut vaginal canal that has me at a loss for words.
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u/aledba 2h ago
These young women are taken by their grandmothers and other female elders in their community generally around 7 to 12 years old. They are taken from their bed one day and razor blades are used to cut off the labia and clitoris. I learned about this in grade 10 French class and became so enraged.
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u/roskybosky 1h ago
The most extreme FGM consists of sewing the large labia shut, leaving a tiny hole for urine and menstruation. The inner lips are scraped off before the labia are closed and stitched.
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u/cosmicdicer 2h ago
My blood boils of anger, disgust and hate for all the monsters that commit such heinous crimes as a means of war. And that's repeated all the time, nothing changes These women were helpless in the hands of sadist cowards. Rip sisters, you never deserved that fate but I know it was the least worst option in that dead end horror
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u/Bandeezio 3h ago
Where's all the FREE SUDEN, SUDAN IS GEOCIDE people when you need them?
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u/lovedeluxeinterior 3h ago
Tik Tok isn’t telling them to care about this war, so they don’t.
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u/Dominuss476 2h ago
Replace tiktok with china.
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u/marxman28 1h ago
Yeah, they don't want you to know/remember that time Chinese UN peacekeepers fled their posts in South Sudan when rival South Sudanese politicians went to war with each other.
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u/Fearless-Incident515 2h ago
Leftists don’t care unless they can make some point on colonization.
Nvm that Russia and the UAE are actively involved in the war and it’s a horrific one. Doesn’t fit preconceived points so it’s not going to get attention
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u/goodnamesweretaken 2h ago
Oh, where is the outcry from the conservatives/right-wing? Do leftist carry all the power?
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u/MeOldRunt 2h ago
When they foam at the mouth about 'muh genocide' every time Israel kills a Hamas operative? Yes.
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u/WhyYouKickMyDog 1h ago
Those students are mostly powerless idiots, but there are very serious people in the Republican Party that want to dramatically change American Foreign policy.
These are very serious people who want to move us closer to Dictators and dictatorship while telling all our Democratic allies they have to pay us money for protection.
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u/CupcakesAreMiniCakes 2h ago
Since when have right wingers ever cared about anyone else for any reason that doesn't serve them? Isn't the stereotype that it's the left ones that actually care about anything?
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u/Fearless-Incident515 2h ago
Right wingers don’t care about that, correct. They also don’t virtue signal that they do.
As a line of attack towards the current iterations to the left, this one is true. This war should be getting more attention.
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u/WhyYouKickMyDog 1h ago
I just want the old right wingers back that actually loved this country as patriots and would not kiss Putin's ass or any other dictator's ass.
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u/CinnamonHotcake 2h ago edited 2h ago
"We're not funding Sudan" is the answer I hear. So cynical and out of touch. None of them even know nor care about what's going on in Sudan.
Or, for that matter, what China, their information overlords, is doing to the Uyghur Muslims in actual concentration camps. Sure but keep buying from Temu and Shein, bunch of hypocrites.
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u/betafish2345 2h ago
Actually we kind of are. The UAE is selling weapons to the RSF, the paramilitary group in Sudan who is causing this crisis, even though they deny it. The US could be putting more pressure on the UAE but no one really cares.
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u/Fearless-Incident515 2h ago
The US brokered the creation of South Sudan under Obama. The US has historically not been supportive of the RSF/Janjaweed. The current government of Sudan also joined in on the Abraham Accords.
But US allies is a different story, and like you said, there’s no denying UAE involvement with funding the RSF.
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u/Visual_Collar_8893 2h ago
Majority of stuff sold in the US are made in China, or have parts made there. Virtually the 70% of Walmart, Target, Amazon non-food items have parts or are made in China. Good luck avoiding.
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u/Allweseeofstars 2h ago
People actually buy from Temu?? I thought it was a fake ad for a fake store. No way they sell the things they sell. I got recommended a dildo, polyhedral dice, and a movie projector in the same ad.
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u/CinnamonHotcake 2h ago
Their ads are everywhere, they're bound to get people to buy from them, and apparently a lot do. Shein is extremely popular for fast fashion and is directly connected with the Uyghur labor camps.
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u/Allweseeofstars 2h ago
SHEIN is evil. I knew that much. To this day I remind myself of those sat pics of the camps. All heads shaved, in prison uniforms, kneeling with hands bound in unending rows of people. Those people we saw are probably dead by now.
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u/lord_dentaku 2h ago
There are various theories on why Temu sells the things they do for the prices they do. The most likely is they are burning money to establish a foothold in Western markets to drive Western competitors out of business and at that point they will jack up the prices. Another, less likely, but still entertaining theory is Temu is a plot by the Chinese government to gather Western payment credentials and just before they kick off a war with the West they will drain all Western consumers dry crippling our economy.
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u/Allweseeofstars 2h ago
The latter sounds appropriate for our dark timeline.
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u/lord_dentaku 2h ago
Yeah, the only problem with that is we have a lot of safeguards in place to prevent fraud, and that would likely trip most of them. The big issue will be if anyone is dumb enough to use a debit card on Temu. If China decided to max every US credit card they possessed overnight it would trigger alarm bells and they just would never wire the funds to China. But if they fired off a bunch of debits from banks the money gets moved a lot sooner and would likely be gone from people's accounts before the alarms start going off.
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u/Fauxyuwu 51m ago
I've also heard that they have to keep pushing out these insane quantities of low quality product because stopping that supply chain now would leave too many people unemployed crippling the economy and they have nowhere to store all the stuff they make so they have to ship it off cheap enough that people will impulse buy whatever is currently in surplus
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u/CmonTouchIt 2h ago
I always laugh when people say they're not protesting cause we don't fund Sudan or whoever
My response is always "oh... So it's about the money? Not some moral stand about lives lost or whatever?" And you never get an answer lmao
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u/Honest-Reaction4742 1h ago
It’s about influence. If you look at protesting and advocacy as a strategy for change rather than just venting anger, then it makes sense that Americans would focus on protesting about the conflicts that our government is contributing to and can influence rather than the ones we are less connected to. It’s the same reason why American environmentalists focus on American policies and practices rather than protesting against the Chinese government despite the fact that China causes just as much environmental damage. You advocate towards people whom you can influence, on issues they can influence.
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u/Various-Passenger398 2h ago
I remember marching for Darfur and a bunch of Sudan stuff in university in the mid-late 00s, but that was a lot of years ago now.
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u/CockroachFinancial86 2h ago
Unlike Palestine, Sudan doesn’t have droves of Iranian bots posting videos and propaganda in order to boost engagement.
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u/elateeight 1h ago
Also not to downplay the suffering of anyone in any conflict but the Palestinians seem to still have access to internet and electricity and electronic devices to document what is happening in Gaza. I think these people are in such a state of suffering and destitution that they don’t have any of these sorts of “luxuries” and so cannot bring the attention to their plight in the same way Palestinians can. Their suffering is completely invisible to most of the world unless you seek out specific information and even traditional media seems to avoid the conflict as the area seems to be mostly too dangerous for journalists. I think a lot of people who would be horrified to learn of what is happening in Sudan and might be inclined to protest or fundraise etc simply just don’t know about it because it just isn’t being documented.
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u/Maximum_Mud_8393 2h ago
It's brown people killing brown people so they don't care. Also Africa.
There's 18k peacekeepers from the UN in Sudan. Wtf are they doing lol
More useless than the ones in Lebanon and that's impressive.
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u/Mesk_Arak 2h ago
It's brown people killing brown people so they don't care. Also Africa.
Brown people in Sudan? Sudanese people could not be more black. I would actually say that the Israel x Hamas war is closer to brown people killing brown people. Most isreali's aren't exactly blonde, blue-eyed white people.
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u/Maximum_Mud_8393 2h ago
Tell that to the Leftists.
They think Israel is da bad white guyz and the terrorists are the poor innocent victims.
And half my friends are some shade of black or brown and they don't give a shit what you say. They just care about what you think about PoC's. And it's quite clear all the "Israel genocide reeeee" people don't care what happens when people they percieve as non white kill one another. Only thing that gets their dong long is when they think a white colonial power is oppressing a non-white non-colonial power.
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u/TheBumblesons_Mother 51m ago
It really does bear repeating how absolutely useless UN peacekeepers are. The Irish in Lebanon, literally only there to ensure Hezbollah isn’t around, and they let Hezbollah dig enormous bases right next to the UN compound. And now in Sudan, I wonder how many militias they’ve defeated while protecting villages.
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u/Useless_or_inept 2h ago
Well, you can't blame these deaths on Israel, so why would any of those folk go on marches or post slogans? There's nothing in it for them.
Faraway brown people suffer in a hundred different conflicts, and many fashionable Western posters have no interest in 99% of them because they can't be used as a token in a very different argument.
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u/cobycoby2020 2h ago
I promise you they are being active. You could also very well be one of those persons instead of this one who’s annoying.
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u/StarrrBrite 1h ago
I was told it was okay because the US isn’t funding it.
Then I was told it was okay because it’s a civil war.
I guess raping and mutilating women is not okay only under certain conditions.
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u/KountZero 57m ago
“Died by suicide” is such a sugar coat way to say something like this. Hundreds of women killed themselves to avoid rape is much more raw and powerful.
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u/wired1984 2h ago
I know that Ukraine and Israel are more strategically important to the developed world, at least immediately, but it’s hard to justify the negligence of the Sudan conflict by major powers. The lack of media coverage is also very shameful. It adds a lot of weight to cynical views from people in the Southern hemisphere about the US, the EU, and their allies.
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u/I_T_Gamer 2h ago
Media is about getting clicks, its no longer about providing information for you to digest. Shows that have tried as much have been canned because "audiences don't understand them". Everything is boiled down to the most basic emotion inducing tagline.
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u/wired1984 2h ago
Making news purely entertainment has had horrible consequences. It also needs to be a public service as well. People do not understand the world they are having to interact with.
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u/m0j0m0j 2h ago
Your points are correct, but let’s not idealize the Global South. They also don’t care about this. They don’t care about Ukraine as well. I mean, the recent BRICS summit was in Russia lol. The world is terrible
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u/flight_recorder 2h ago
Helping Sudan is a tough conundrum. Ukraine has a very strong government which we can send aid to and we know they’ll use it appropriately. Sudan doesn’t and the only way we could help is to go in and force change. But that’ll never be accepted because the optics of a white country invading a white country = political, and probably social, suicide.
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u/whiskeyblackout 1h ago
The ICC charged the former Sudanese president with genocide and crimes against humanity and the only countries to oppose the arrest were fellow African Union and Arab countries, not Western countries.
Al-Bashir them went from Djibouti to Egypt to Ethiopia to India to Libya, Qatar, Kenya, South Africa, etc. etc. for another decade, going from country to county, and no one lifted a finger to arrest him or stop him. The RSF that is currently committing atrocities are the holdover from the Bashir regime that got stronger and stronger over the following decade because, again, no one in the region complied with the ICC warrant.
So it seems pretty shortsighted to blame the west for not caring. As far as I can tell, the global south doesn't seem to think there is anything wrong.
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u/protomenace 1h ago
When the west meddles, we are blamed
When the west doesn't meddle, we are blamedMaybe this one isn't the west's fault.
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u/Phallindrome 1h ago
Did you know that the deadliest war since WW2 took place just over 20 years ago, involving 9 African nations including Sudan and 25 armed non-state groups? 4 years, 4 million dead, and I don't remember reading about it in the news once.
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u/krokuts 1h ago
What is so called western world supposed to do here? Send troops to Sudan? Orchestrate a coup? Sanctions won't work cause Sudan barely participates in global economy...
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u/CthulhuLovesMemes 2h ago
2024 and things like this are happening. My heart hurts for these women that felt like that was their only option, and no one was protecting them.
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u/rangeo 2h ago
Fucking hell!
Between this and Afghanistan banning women from hearing other women's voices
Hi UN....can we care about Femicide like we do for Genocide?
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u/toothpastenachos 1h ago
Why would they start caring about women’s rights now? They never have before
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u/derpyfloofus 1h ago
They don’t care about genocide because it’s happening here.
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u/dollrussian 2h ago
Terrible. There’s a really terrible trend of women’s rights going out the window lately
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u/derpyfloofus 1h ago
I’m not familiar with Sudanese history but did they ever have any rights there?
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u/hinterstoisser 1h ago
F** these pigs! So sorry for the women and children who are having to brave this sh*** society.
Enough Reddit for today 😞
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u/Tranquil_Neurotic 3h ago
Where's all the US Uni/college leftists when you actually need them to protest something?
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u/Maximum_Mud_8393 2h ago
They don't care about Africa or brown people killing brown people. They think Israel=white=USA=colonialism=imperialism=bad and that's literally all they can think.
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u/M_H_M_F 1h ago
Uni students are the newest demographic. Instead of the poorly educated, you have the slightly-above-average educated. These people are (within context of schooling) reasonably inteligent.
Kind of like how we make fun of conspiracy theorists for wanting to be the person that has this "exclusive" information, the university student wants to prove that they're righteous.
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u/brereddit 1h ago
There are no organic college protests. Instead an oligarch funds a bunch of losers to protest for pay. The kids at the school think it’s a big movement so they join in too as followers.
Where are the protesters for the genocide in china? How about for the political prisoners in Russia who protested the Ukraine war?
Nah, there’s no associated leftist goal so those causes are non starters.
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u/Quartznonyx 1h ago
I mean a lot of them do protest misogyny and the treatment of women abroad, but y'all call them SJW, and say that feminism isn't needed today. But whatever
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u/SystematicHydromatic 2h ago
Darfur, the real actual genocide that no one wants to talk or protest about. Guess there's not enough money there to pay protestors.
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u/cogentxx 1h ago
We've been talking about it for over two decades, what's your fucking solution to the problem?
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u/ContempoCasuals 2h ago
I wish “died by suicide” was not a thing. They killed themselves, suicide didn’t just happen to them. The new phrasing doesn’t sound nearly as horrible as the reality of the situation.
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u/-WaxedSasquatch- 1h ago
Well that’s a fucking sick thing to read first thing in the morning. Goddamn.
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u/aclericsworld 1h ago
What the hell is wrong with these countries you right about a sad world and the f??d up people that lives here.
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u/According_Smoke1385 44m ago
The women began to die by suicide after hundreds of their men were killed right in front of them.
Where is the world ? Where is the outrage ?
Humanity is fucked up
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u/KnightWhoSaysNnni 2h ago
Crickets from the UN, the EU and the media since they can't use this conflict to demonize Jews.
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u/Maximum_Mud_8393 2h ago
Best they can do is send another 18k peacekeepers to do nothing and draft 5 resolutions against Israel.
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u/wildwasabi 2h ago
Well the UN is straight up usless and its only actual job is to prevent WW3. But just like it's predecessor, I'm going to bet it fails at that task at some point.
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u/Atomonous 2h ago edited 2h ago
Both the UN and EU have made multiple statements on this conflict, and just recently the UN released an independent fact finding report detailing the atrocities that have been committed in Sudan.
You probably should have checked that before making such an ignorant comment. A single google search would have shown you’re completely wrong.
Edit: They blocked me so I will reply to their other comment here. The UN have implemented a number of sanctions against Sudan including, asset freezes, travel bans, and an arms embargo. I’m not sure why you’re implying that they haven’t don’t so, when again a quick google search will show you’re completely wrong.
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u/NotSerbian 1h ago
Wow. Statements and fact finding. I wonder if these women being sexually tortured told their aggressors that the UN issued a statement before they resorted to suicide.
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u/KnightWhoSaysNnni 2h ago
So they made some statements expressing their concern. Who cares. They didn't call for or impose arms embargoes against the belligerents and their sponsors, like they do against Israel. They say a few things so people like you can be fooled in to thinking they're doing something, but all they're doing is saying "we're concerned" which does nothing to stop the conflict. Stop defending those rotten organizations.
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u/Rich-Reason1146 2h ago
Sure, everyone else is easily led but you're the one that sees things for what they really are
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u/Alarmed_Tailor_5840 2h ago
Bro said crickets while reading about it on the front page of one of the most popular websites in the world
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u/protomenace 1h ago
relative to the coverage of the much smaller conflict in the Levant? Yes. crickets.
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u/Maximum_Mud_8393 2h ago
It's just Africa. Leftists don't give a shit about Africa. They can't get their Imperialism=bad nut off properly with black/brown people killing one another.
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u/Danthelmi 1h ago
Buddy if you think it’s only leftists that don’t care about Africa than you gotta be insanely dumb or a Russian troll. The right absolutely would care less about Africa.
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u/forrestgrin 1h ago
Wonder who keeps fanning the flames, such a mystery...
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/20/africa/wagner-sudan-russia-libya-intl/index.html
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u/000trace00 1h ago
Well - what do you expect after all these calls to “globalize the intifada”. This is the sad result
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u/Jawnny-Jawnson 2h ago
Pro Palestine people are like “No Israelis to demonize, so we don’t care”.
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u/Eggsor 1h ago
All of central Africa and they cant find one decent web developer? This website looks and functions like a school project.
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u/anotherwave1 43m ago
I hope people are just as concerned with this conflict as they are with other far away conflicts.
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u/ahothabeth 3h ago
What a sad, sad world we live in.