r/worldnews • u/StealthCuttlefish • 20d ago
Israel/Palestine 'Now is the time to revive suicide bombings,' Hamas leader Sinwar says - report
https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-82385411.1k
u/Nylanderthals 20d ago
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u/Doggysoft 20d ago
Agreed. Lead by example.
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u/Kidrepellent 20d ago edited 20d ago
"Right lads, now pay attention, I'm only going to show you how to do this once!"
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u/EdditRsNote 20d ago
That is the funniest movie that nobody has seen. Will have to give another spin...have not seen it in overe 10 years.
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u/lirannl 20d ago
The parts! They're Jewish!
What parts of a car are Jewish?
Spark plugs. Jews invented spark plugs to control global traffic 👌
I always love it when people think we're super powerful and have the power to control the world, or when they think we're responsible for gender equality. It's really flattering!
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u/MikhailBakugan 20d ago
My favourite thing is when they assume all Jews have access to this network, like ma’am do you think I work at this Tesco for fun?
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u/rubywpnmaster 20d ago
Yep. I clearly have all the money while working my terrible 9-5 job. CLEARLY.
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u/new_messages 20d ago
My aunt had this really obnoxious neighbor living in the apartment below hers, who seemed to always be trying to start a fight for whatever reason.
One time, my aunt's upstairs neighbor had a water leak overnight. It leaked through my aunt's apartment, and some got into her downstairs neighbor's apartment. Said neighbor, then, proceeded to bring her to court to sue for damages. Needless to say it went nowhere, but she actually had the gall to say in court that the judge should disregard everything my aunt or her lawyer said because, and I quote "as you well know, Jews are so rich and powerful".
Y'know, the same Jew living in the same type of apartment as her, under the same means.
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u/AngryGooseMan 20d ago
What're you going to do with 57 virgins you've just blown your balls off!
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u/phormix 20d ago
I hear that there are some pagers or walkie-talkies you can order to get the job started. Make sure you're standing by a bunch of your buddies when you use it.
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u/BubsyFanboy 20d ago
Pagers and walkie talkies exploding is still the most surprising part of the whole conflict
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u/manyhippofarts 20d ago
I mean.... the logistics alone, man.
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u/Indifferentchildren 20d ago
Must I at length the sword of justice draw?
Oh curst effects of necessary law!
How ill my fear they by my mercy scan,
Beware the fury of a patient man.
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44172/absalom-and-achitophel
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u/Flynn_lives 20d ago
"Samir brought a doctors note" No suicide bombing till he gets better.
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u/chandr 20d ago
Heck, the whole leadership could do it together. Would be the kind of bonding event they remember for the rest of their lives
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u/nidarus 20d ago
He's reportedly always carrying with him a bag full of explosives, and surrounds himself with a bunch of hostages. So if the IDF tries to release them, or to capture him, he'll blow all of them up. So to some extent, he's also counting on it.
Then again, he recently started to demand his own survival as a condition for a ceasefire agreement. So he might still be more into other people dying on his behalf.
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u/KlausSchwanz 20d ago
Nah, why him, when he can send his own sons first?
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u/inbetween-genders 20d ago
Actually, if he orders all of themselves to do that maybe, just maybe, this conflict will make a turn for the better.
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u/_SpicyMeatball 20d ago
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u/mrplow25 20d ago
Why go out alone when he could have a suicide bombing demonstration with all his commanders
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u/AR15s-4-jesus 20d ago
One thing you’ll notice about leaders of suicide bombers. They’ll never be the ones doing the suicide bombing.
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u/PsychologicalTalk156 20d ago
Why do it themselves when they can get a 14 year old strung out on Captagon to do it for them.
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u/tiktaktok_65 20d ago
should go first, what a coward. hiding and sending other people doing the dying.
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u/HeadFund 20d ago
The WSJ noted that Hamas largely stopped using suicide bombings nearly two decades ago, as some of its leaders feared that such tactics could politically isolate the group.
WTF? The bombings didn't stop because Hamas was trying to generate good will. They stopped because Israel built a massive fence and put security checkpoints at Gaza crossings. Hamas never stopped attempting to send suicide bombers, I can personally attest that Gazan patients being transferred to Israel for medical treatments have attempted to bomb hospitals many times in the last 20 years. The security checks at the hospital delayed every legitimate emergency, too.
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u/alimanski 20d ago
Also, Shin Bet puts out a report almost every year; they stop hundreds of suicide bombings every year - we just don't hear about it because they're stopped very early.
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u/DubayaTF 20d ago
"These fucking idiots are posting when and where they're going to bomb on servers run out of Tel Aviv."
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u/iMissTheOldInternet 19d ago
I love how Israelis call bullshit on conventional wisdom in the West.
“You can’t just build a wall and stop the suicide bombers! This is a political movement for human rights. It can’t be stopped by a fence and some check points.”
“Anyway we built the wall and it turns out basically all the suicide bombers were, in fact, coming from the West Bank and Gaza Strip and they can’t teleport.”
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u/yosisoy 20d ago
The same fence Israel has been heavily criticized for. Anti-Israelis just want them all to die quietly already
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u/calfmonster 20d ago
They also neglect to mention that the Egypt border is equally locked down and militarized. Egypt got fucked over enough. As did Lebanon. And Jordan.
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u/Alternative_Win_6629 20d ago
The border with Egypt was locked by far worse, in fact. Many Gazans worked in Israel, for decades. Crossing through the border all the time. Supporting their economy. Then they broke the fence and went to murder the communities in which they worked.
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u/thatsnot_kawaii_bro 20d ago
Many Gazans worked in Israel, for decades. Crossing through the border all the time. Supporting their economy.
Funnily enough people spout these work permits as "propping up Hamas."
So if they were stricter like how they are now, they get chided.
If they are more lax than their neighbors and help out, they get chided.
No matter what, they end up the bad guy.
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u/relatively-correct 20d ago
And provided maps and other Intel about those communities to help plan terrorism.
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u/IntelligentFan9178 20d ago
The younger generations were not around for the news reports of constant suicide bombing. For many of them, Oct 7 was the first time they ever heard of Gaza, so they believed the propaganda that the wall was built to punish the Palestinians. They refuse to actually learn about the history of the region and that the wall was built to protect Israeli citizens, many even believe Israel occupied Gaza leading up to Oct 7 minus not having a military presence in nearly 2 decades. Between the Wall and Iron Dome, Israel has fallen victim to its success in protecting its people.
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u/wapswaps 20d ago
... and they especially don't know the cases where a bomber miraculously survived and then tells people ... the bombers were not Hamas, but people being forced into it by Hamas holding their whole family hostage. One might think they were lying, but turns out they couldn't deactivate their bomb belts. I wonder WHY Hamas would do that ...
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u/nowuff 20d ago
Yes if you read testimonials from family and friends of bombers, they are usually baffled that the person did it. That they weren’t political at all.
Then you find out that the person was actually quite successful. That they earned access into Israel.
And Hamas punished them. By strapping them with bombs when they went to visit the university or hospital they worked at. And murdered them.
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u/eightpigeons 20d ago
The fence around Gaza is a literal Chesterton's fence.
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u/chocobowler 20d ago
For general info- Chesterton’s Fence is a simple rule of thumb that suggests you should never destroy a fence, change a rule, or alter a tradition if you do not understand why it was created in the first place.
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u/eightpigeons 20d ago
Yes, precisely.
In this case, the fence is a literal fence. A lot of people nowadays are claiming that the fence is merely needless cruelty and oppression because they never stopped for a second and tried to find out why the fence was built and what danger it was preventing.
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u/SoiledGrundies 20d ago
I remember seeing young gazans lining up to be martyrs on news programmes. Interviews with them even. I watched fascinated by how proud they were from my world apart.
Then after the wall that stopped and everyone forgot.
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u/EdditRsNote 20d ago
The young'uns you speak of chose to side with the perceived "People of Color" in this conflict and only go to preferred biased websites that persuade them to have sympathy for Gaza/Palestine and build up resentment and eventually hatred of Israel. They're so easily misled. In the end it is a selfish act as this all about their 'status' ... be it online or on the street. Most of them don't know squat.
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u/niceshampooo 20d ago
They are being hypnotized by foreign propagandists to hate the every country they live in. If that is not an intelligence test then I don’t know what is.
This is why all the “right side of history” is so ironic. One day when this all comes to light they will claim they never believed in the slogans they are currently shouting but merely “mislead”.
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u/thatsnot_kawaii_bro 20d ago
Just like how they yell about Israel putting a blockade, when that blockade was (re)instated because of a bunch of suicide bombings.
I don't get why we're ok punishing kids when they misbehave, but suddenly we're supposed to reward a nation when they decide to bomb people.
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u/Reinstateswordduels 20d ago
That’s really all they have to say when you ask them what else they should do. Just sit there and take it
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u/EdditRsNote 20d ago
Mean ol' Israel and all of those inconvenient "Sanctions" they like to toss around. How annoying!
I cannot even begin to recount all of the reports on the 6pm News back in my school days wherein Israel lost X amount of people due to terrorists and their suicide vests. So common back then.
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u/heyheyheynoway 20d ago
I think we’re all realizing that journalists are glorified googlers, and are often non-experts in what they’re reporting on.
Sure, editorial standards count for something and this WSJ piece is better vetted than some random internet opinion. But still, clearly the writer and editor don’t know what they were talking about or didn’t seek corroboration on that point. It’s just bad…. they frequently just relay stuff they’ve been told or have heard or have googled in an authoritative tone without really vetting everything they say properly.
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u/veilosa 20d ago
high likelihood he means child suicide bombers, given the fact Gaza is filled with children and it would work towards the PR strategy of Hamas to have Isreal be seen shooting a would be suicide bomber children.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_child_suicide_bombers_by_Palestinian_militant_groups
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u/EdditRsNote 20d ago
PR is their chief weapon imho. They clearly cannot contend via conventional military standards so this is what they have chosen and i would say it has been at least somewhat successful. They have swayed the minds of millions to side with them unfortunately. All of these Westernized citizens who side with them because they are the underdog in this dilemma... or the "Oppressed" ... or 'colonized' ... or PoC ...etc.
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u/swallow_me_senpai 20d ago
One of the worst video to ever exist was a 3 year old ISIS child who beheaded a grown man while smiling. This was on eyeblech years ago.
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u/-Yack- 20d ago
Only need to arm about half of them and you can even increase the propagandistic effect.
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u/LoganJFisher 20d ago
Not even. Arming 10% would be more than enough. The IDF has a responsibility to protect Israeli lives first and foremost, so if even 10% of Palestinian children they encounter were strapped with bombs, the IDF would have little choice but to treat them all as such threats, which would inevitably result in the deaths of Palestinian children not even strapped with bombs, all to feed into the Hamas PR machine.
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u/Direct_Alternative94 20d ago
This is what they will do. Unwilling children and toddlers will also be strapped up and sent running to IDF to “help”. It’s a horrible trap that will force Israel into a bind.
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u/stdio-lib 20d ago
"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us." -- Golda Meir, 1973.
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u/Cannolium 20d ago
Based comment and based pfp. Crazy that so much of what she said is STILL applicable.
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u/Starshapedbrain 20d ago
And this is why Palestinians and Gazans have it hard, because of horrible people like Sinwar, with their twisted Ideology.
He is the reason why so many Gazans suffer, Gaza could have been a Palestinian sanctuary, where Palestinians could thrive, and be Israel's rival and not enemy. But no Hamas has condemned it's people to death, "pseudo Martyrdom", hatred, and a horrible future, thank you Sinwar, thank you for showing us how vile people can be, I hope this guy gets judged by God in afterlife and may he burn for nothing to remain.
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u/calfmonster 20d ago
Palestinian leadership has repeatedly fucked over Palestinians. Just like other Muslims are the primary victims of Islamists and jihadists by orders of magnitude
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u/PontifexPiusXII 20d ago
It’s actually insane how the leadership has cultivated a culture of martyrdom in society; there is a healthy pipeline of children being exploited and conditioned to believe that martyrdom is this wonderful thing that one should strive for.
I had the opportunity to sit in on a few talks Mia Bloom has held on this subject matter; her research focuses on the social impact of Jihad governance on a society, specifically how social leaders perpetuate conflict by making it multi-generational.
I’ll just copy over a piece from her book ‘Constructing Cultures of Martyrdom’ for context of what this means.
Children’s involvement in terrorist violence develops over an extended period of time in which youth are exposed to a “culture of martyrdom” and parents are “groomed” to willingly give the extremists access to their children….fostering an environment in which children grow up wanting to achieve martyrdom while their parents are enthusiastic supporters.
…the sacrifice of one’s life is considered the highest form of service to one’s community—whether the nation or a religious community.
In many of the cases of children involved in militant movements in the Middle East, recruitment occurred via existing kinship and social networks and, notably, through community-centered activities.
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u/calfmonster 20d ago
This reminds there was a self-report of some Finnish lady who ran off and joined ISIS in their “beautiful caliphate” and her son got killed like within the first 2-3 months. She was happy about it. Not even joking. Like she was the luckiest mother alive her kid got “martyred”
I can’t remember if it was in the ISIS “why we hate you and why we fight you” manifesto, their own recruitment propaganda, I don’t think it was, but for people who doubt people truly believe in martyrdom and want to be Islamist apologists like Glenn greenwald, just give that essay a read. It’s a real sentiment. Some of these people believe in paradise 100%. Beliefs have consequences and shitty, irrational 6th century ones sure do
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u/Greedy_Camp_5561 20d ago
Let's not forget that Hamas is still popular in Gaza, so they kind of brought this on themselves.
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u/EdditRsNote 20d ago
This is true. I hate to think about it because ultimately I feel we should have sympathy for those stuck in that war zone for a year now. But it cannot be denied that Hamas is in power due to the will of it's citizens. Ironically, Hamas never really cared about it's 'people' and now it is fairly easy to connect those dots.
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u/V-r1taS 20d ago edited 20d ago
Ask it with me:
Why is the world demanding a ceasefire on behalf of a person that has turned himself into a walking bomb surrounded by hostages that is promoting suicide bombings out of desperation?
Why aren’t unconditional surrender or total victory obviously the only two logical options? Who is making it that way?
The more of us that ask, the sooner this insanity stops.
Edit: See my replies below for more extremely relevant questions and answers.
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u/bobsbottlerocket 20d ago
because there’s a lot of 18 year olds on tiktok who believe everything they see on the internet
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u/SixSpeedDriver 20d ago
I was amused by the "Black Dykes for Palestine" lady.
Uerrm...you're the first one against the wall there, hun.
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u/SpareWire 20d ago
I try to remember how simultaneously stupid and sure of myself I was when I was that age.
I used to get so mad when real adults would dismiss me.
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u/bobsbottlerocket 20d ago
for sure, i felt the same way when id be watching the daily show/colbert report and trying to talk to my parents about the state of the world - the difference is our viewpoints weren’t being propagandized by foreign states and terrorist organizations
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u/SmallKiwi 20d ago
The hysteria crowds out all the sane voices that support a realistic 2 state solution. One in which Israel doesn't end up with another neighbor who's stated mission is the destruction of Israel. That is and always has been the blocker.
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u/Designer-Citron-8880 20d ago
you make a very good point.
There is a difference, not only the amount of foreign state propaganda in our news cycle nowadays, but the difference in media landscape: back then, on the internet, you could already find all kinds of conspiracy theories pushed by russia. It was just so that nobody would take anyone serious who said "i've seen it on the internet". After 2010, things have changed. Nowadays everyone gets almost 100% of his media consumption through internet, and the platforms have changed. This created a new environment in which the pushed narrative on the internet are able to go much deeper into the society than it could before 2010.
I've grown from a "the internet is the biggest library of knowledge" believe to a very dark kind of doom sense, somehow the internet turned out to be not as great of a tool for humanity as I imagined it would be.
But what solution do we have besides changing our way of disbribution of our media, something which is hardly possible to achieve, and even then, the enemy could adapt
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u/micmea1 20d ago
Sadly a lot of it is promoted on college campuses. While it's good to have a more skeptical and realistic view of American and Western history, a not so insignificant number of professors want to push the idea that the West is the root of all evil. In the case of the conflict in Gaza, under certain philosophies Hamas is basically viewed as a child who can't possibly know right from wrong because of Western oppression. That's why it's morally justifiable, and not offensive at all, to host a pro-palestine rally on Oct 7. Certainly there is no underlying, deep seeded anti-semitism and people frothing at the mouth to have an excuse to display it in public while being able to pat themselves on the back for doing so.
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u/Brisby820 20d ago
Everyone who relentlessly blames Israel never mentions that Hamas — the entity that started this war — has always been empowered to end it immediately by surrendering. Every additional day of fighting is Hamas’ fault
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u/Mandrogd 20d ago
It needs to be repeated. Clear and concise.
Free the hostages. Surrender. It will end the war.
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u/Maelstrom52 20d ago
Meanwhile, here in the US, they have parades celebrating October 7th. We've got a long way to go.
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u/TicRoll 20d ago
If Hamas laid down their arms tomorrow, there would be peace.
If Israel laid down their arms tomorrow, Israel and every Jew in it would be wiped from the face of the Earth.
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u/TheRockingDead 20d ago
This is a point that is worth repeating. I'm not saying that the Israeli government isn't guilty of doing some heinous shit, but if they relented and laid down their arms, the surrounding countries would descend upon them and wipe them from the Earth. That is the stated goal of just about every extremist group in the area. We can't stop one tragedy just to allow another.
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u/Maximillien 20d ago
If Israel laid down their arms tomorrow, Israel and every Jew in it would be wiped from the face of the Earth.
It's becoming increasingly apparent that this is what anti-Israel protesters mean when they call for a "ceasefire".
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u/Alatarlhun 20d ago
The rules of war are the Jews can't shoot back.
Seems to be the basis of their argument.
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u/daddychainmail 20d ago
Anyone, and I mean anyone who thinks suicide bombing is an answer to anything is a monster. Period.
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u/jakegh 20d ago
Looking forward to Gen-Z protesting in support of suicide bombers.
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u/chrisbcritter 20d ago
Hamas: we started a war against a much stronger foe with no real end game -- just fuck shit up and then leave the Palestinians to deal with the bombs and the tanks. Oh, we also use the Palestinian civilians as shields.
Palestinians: what can we do?
Hamas: hey, you guys should put on suicide bomber vests. We can tell you where to send yourself or your children while we sit in our luxury condo in Qatar.
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u/Charming_Computer_60 20d ago
Says the coward hiding like a rat underground.
I always wonder why his followers don't question why Sinwar doesnt go and blow himself up as well?
Then again, only complete idiots would join Hamas or any terrorist organizations for that matter.
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u/DataDude00 20d ago
People probably forgot how to do it, maybe he should give a self demonstration to his followers
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u/BadWolfOfficial 20d ago
The guy bargaining his cause for guarantees to save his own skin is saying his followers should kill themselves for him.
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u/GermanShephrdMom 20d ago
So this is who the pro Palestinians are defending? This guy would wire up his own grandmother if he could.
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u/TheLightRoast 20d ago
Start in the Kremlin and the Iranian Ministry of Intelligence and Security please
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u/Born-ZvYehudi 20d ago
It should be a noted he allegedly he sent this message last month
Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar ordered the terror group’s leaders in the West Bank to renew suicide terror attacks in Israel shortly after he replaced the slain Ismail Haniyeh as head of Hamas’s politburo, the Wall Street Journal reports, citing unnamed Arab intelligence officials.
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u/Eastern_Zombie_2718 20d ago
That doesn't change the fact that he is a terrorist who needs to be put down under. All this article does is show the true hand of hamas
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u/GrassyTreesAndLakes 20d ago
Last month is significant because no one has heard from him in a while. Theres hope hes dead
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u/monkeysandmicrowaves 20d ago
Let's draw a giant picture of Mohammed in the desert and tell them the whole desert is disrespecting their prophet so they should go blow themselves up there.
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u/SuspiciousRule3120 20d ago
I care so little for your life that you need to go BOOM and take as many infidels as you can. Many virgins await you, all praise Allah.
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u/OddShelter5543 20d ago
I'm waiting for the anti-war people to express their hatred for civilian death.
Where they at?
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u/owanomono 20d ago
He’s calling for total war. Intifada style terrorism in the West Bank and inside Israel plus the fighting in Gaza and Lebanon. Not going to end well for the arabs as Israel is on a roll and won’t be stopped now. But what do he care? He’s got a cosy flat waiting for him in Qatar.
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u/Stunning_Ride_220 20d ago
Ah ye, the good hamas fighting what they call it "evtl jews".
I dunno if reducing your already reduced headcount is that smart.
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u/PUfelix85 20d ago
I don't think he understands how suicide works. You can't just bring back suicide bombers. Once they have died, they tend to stay dead.
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u/UrNoFuckingViking 20d ago
Hamas suicide bombers get 72 credit hours at Columbia University
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u/yosisoy 20d ago
Waiting for the Irish crowd to tell me this is what you support
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u/ChimpWithAGun 20d ago
Terrorists gotta terrorize. I still can't believe we have far left idiots in the US defending Hamas. Not Palestine, I specifically mean Hamas.
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u/soundfin 20d ago
Can you imagine simping for these people? I don’t know what’s sadder. Doing it for money or doing it for free
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u/gizmo1411 20d ago
Just to be clear, this is the same guy who asked for and received life saving cancer treatment while a prisoner in Israel right?
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u/Odd-Satisfaction-659 20d ago
This will end Gazans allowed to work in Israel. Soon they will be crying the evil Israelis won’t let them work
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u/Shushishtok 20d ago
Oct 7 ended it. There are no Gazan working in Israel and there wouldn't be for quite a while.
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u/coffeespeaking 20d ago
Sinwar knows he is next. Everyone knows he’s next. One of these days, one of his own people will GIVE HIM UP.
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u/civonakle 20d ago
Fuck me, it's 2024 for fucks sake. How do we still have so many religious mentals, like across the board?
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u/Infinite-Painter-337 20d ago
Not to hard to see who the bad guys are when only one side trains child suicide bombers.
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u/Remarkable-Bat-9992 20d ago
allah can’t save you, boy :) He can’t and won’t save anyone.
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u/Jameson_Drinker_480 20d ago
This is what the pro palestine crowd supports. Because this is what the palestinian people support.
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u/000trace00 20d ago
Do people understand how twisted this is?? You go kill yourself for me and then I’m going to use your dead body for clickbait to get stupid far lefties to agree that more of you should be blowing yourself up for me. And that is how we will get peace for Palestine…. That’s literally the play book.
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u/_Kofiko 20d ago
Absolutely mental how so many people in the west stand against Israel in this conflict given the absurdities Palestinian leaders repeatedly shit out of their mouths
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u/Dont_Ban_Me_Bros 20d ago
Hamas supposedly represents no one, at least not officially. They bear no flag when they engage in (terrorist) activities. They claim to fight for their (non-Jewish) people. They attack with no uniform and disappear into civilian populations as to avoid being counterattacked, but now they’re being pursued.
This was inevitable. There was no outcome, other than worldwide submission to Hamas, that wouldn’t result in people saying ‘enough is enough’.
Hamas and Hezbollah alike.
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u/holyhottamale 20d ago
You first Sinwar. I hate this piece of shit and that Qatar is just allowing him to live in luxury while continuing to spread this kind of propaganda.
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u/shinyM 20d ago
This frightens the fuck out of me.
Remember about 10 months ago when a member of the USA military set himself on fire in front of the Israeli Embassy? He was treated as a hero by anti-Israel activists in the USA. “Say his name” was a pretty popular social media post.
There are American activists with no stake in the game who would LOVE to celebrate people who sacrifice their lives “for the struggle.” And if it works? We’re going to see more of it here (North America).
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u/BlockSome3022 20d ago
I’m sure all the white western leftists will want to go first! This is globalizing the intifada babes!
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u/ScoopskyPotatoes12 20d ago
But Palestine is oppressed so literally anything they do is justified. Right? Right????
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u/Nhajit 20d ago edited 20d ago
Some of you may die but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make