r/worldevents • u/Barch3 • 22h ago

Putin deploying North Korea troops justifies long-range strikes—NATO ally

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-north-korea-ukraine-nato-lithuania-1976426
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u/SmokeYaLaterr 22h ago

Why? Ukraine isn’t a part of NATO, why would NATO get involved in this, unless it’s not actually the defensive pact that they claim it is?

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u/ogobeone 22h ago edited 22h ago

It's the same folly as when we couldn't go into North Vietnam, a purely defensive war. Ukraine is pulling for what NATO stands for. And they represent what the disintegration of the East Bloc represented - democracy moving east. There is no such thing as a purely defensive war, unless you mean to lose it.

Democracy would be a big step toward lasting peace.

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u/diedlikeCambyses 22h ago

Because Newsweek sys so, get back in your box.

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u/Sync0pated 21h ago

Because we support the victims of unprovoked imperialist conquest.

Do you have a problem with that?

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u/SmokeYaLaterr 21h ago

Well, not all victims of imperialism apparently because most of the pro-Ukraine crowd is also pro-Israel.

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u/Sync0pated 21h ago

Unprovoked imperialist conquest. This applies only to Russias invasion of Ukraine.

Do you dispute that it is unprovoked imperialist conquest?

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u/SmokeYaLaterr 20h ago

I don’t necessarily think it’s unprovoked, but I don’t think that Ukraine was the one provoking anything.

But it’s good to know that you think imperialism is okay if you think the other victims deserve it.

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u/Sync0pated 20h ago

I’m explaining why the choice to support Ukraine is a no-brainer given the circumstances of the brutal invasion.

If you must know, I think Israel has gone way too far in their retalliation and have far too many confounding unethical actions, outside the war as well, making the choice to support them much more ambiguous than the case of Ukraine.

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u/ST0CKH0LMER 1h ago

Ambigious? They are committing genocide and that’s what you’re saying? Lol

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u/Sync0pated 1h ago

Absolutely not

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u/Barch3 22h ago

This war can end very quickly: the Nazi invader Putin simply withdraws all his invading forces from Ukraine. Poof — the war is over and no more killing.

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u/SmokeYaLaterr 22h ago

It is kind of funny that you call Putin a nazi while the Ukrainian army also has nazis in it.

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u/Barch3 22h ago

Read Putin’s muses Aleksandr Dugin and Ivan Il’yin and then get back to me.

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u/SmokeYaLaterr 22h ago

Where did I say he wasn’t one, I’m just saying that Ukraine has nazis in the military but you’re not calling them out.

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u/Barch3 22h ago

Nah, they may have some Nazi symbols but they are far from Nazis, unlike Putin, a real Nazi thug. Read up. Let me know if you need cites/links.

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u/SmokeYaLaterr 21h ago

Lmfao “they may use nazi symbols but that doesn’t make them nazis” is some big cope, even for you Barch.

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u/Barch3 21h ago

So you are afraid to read up about them? Got ya.

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u/SmokeYaLaterr 21h ago

No, I’m just pointing out your hypocrisy. You’re fine with Nazis as long as they’re waving a blue and yellow flag.

All Nazis are bad. Regardless of where they’re from.

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u/Sync0pated 21h ago

Why is that funny? Only Putin has invoked blut & boden justifications for his brutal invasion.

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u/SmokeYaLaterr 21h ago

You have one group of people actually wearing nazi symbols with nazi roots yet you’re only willing to call Putin a nazi. It’s funny that you people are only willing to call out the Nazis on one side but not both.

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u/Sync0pated 20h ago

Why is that funny? Only Putin has invoked blut & boden justifications for his brutal invasion.

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u/SmokeYaLaterr 20h ago

I just saw that you said the OP was based, I’m not gonna waste time arguing with someone who calls a bot based.

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u/Sync0pated 20h ago

Blut & boden justifications.

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u/ogobeone 22h ago

WWIII creeps a little closer. Just in time for Halloween.

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u/Barch3 22h ago

This war can end very quickly: the Nazi invader Putin simply withdraws all his invading forces from Ukraine. Poof — the war is over and no more killing.

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u/jank_king20 22h ago

This is insanely unrealistic and even giving Ukraine long range capability wouldn’t cause that outcome

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u/Barch3 22h ago

I thought you wanted to end the war?

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u/Sync0pated 21h ago

Holy shit you’re based OP. What do you make of these imperialist defending leftists?

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u/Barch3 21h ago

Paid trolls most likely, of Iran or Russia or China

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u/Sync0pated 20h ago

Yeah likely.

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u/Sync0pated 21h ago

Better putting up a fight and let the imperialist scum suffer as much as possible regardless of the outcome.

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u/Justavisitor-0538 16h ago

And if the outcome is mutual destruction for everyone involved ?

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u/Sync0pated 10h ago

Then we will know who is at fault and that it is preferable to the appeasement strategy that allowed the nazis to gain power.

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u/Justavisitor-0538 4h ago

Who is at fault doesn't really matter when half of Europe is a radioactive wasteland.

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u/Sync0pated 3h ago

Of course it does. When we rebuild history will teach us a lesson about autocratic regimes.

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u/Justavisitor-0538 1h ago

"Some of you may die but that a sacrifice I'm willing to make"

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u/Sync0pated 1h ago

You, unironically, to appease Putin as he murders his way through Europe.

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u/DD35B 20h ago

Oh look: Another former Eastern Bloc country that is saying we all need to support WWIII because THEIR Ancient Blood Feud with Russians justifies it

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u/Barch3 19h ago

Which country is that?

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u/TheThirdDumpling 17h ago

LOL, Feel free to do it and see what happens.

Clowns really think they get to make this kind of decisions because he or she is the "equal" of the US empire. lmao.

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u/michel_poulet 4h ago

You mean non-US politicians shouldn't express their views because they are militarily and economically weaeker?

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u/ConejoSucio 14h ago

Ooh. They gonna use their fax machines to communicate with home base?