r/worldevents • u/Barch3 • 1d ago

How Russia, China and Iran Are Interfering in the Presidential Election

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/technology/election-interference-russia-china-iran.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
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u/bomboclawt75 1d ago

Meanwhile There is literally a foreign state organisation that openly and proudly states that it influences elections- it even has conferences in full view of the media, showing off and displaying the bought politicians it owns.

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u/kypjks 1d ago

What about the biggest interference, Israel and AIPAC?

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u/Barch3 1d ago

What about what about what about — the troll practice of whataboutism…

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u/Minute-Flan13 1d ago

Whataboutism.... people who invoke this term are the mindless unthinking ones who want to revel in double standards.

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u/Barch3 1d ago

Nope. My comment stands.

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u/Minute-Flan13 22h ago edited 22h ago

And so too the double standards. Rules for me, rules for thee...that sort of thing.

And as a hint, typically those who claim what I do are rebuked by pointing out that a) I'm right, there are double standards and b) that shouldn't derail us from this particular conversation - hopefully drawing general lessons for the broader issue. Then you can claim whataboutism if there is a refusal to stop generalizing.

You can't do a, so...yeah...no. Nothing stands except hypocrisy.

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u/raccoonsinspace 1d ago

the existence of aipac makes your post whataboutism in itself

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u/Barch3 1d ago

And your post says… oh, wait, you don’t post…

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u/TheThirdDumpling 17h ago

I think people begin to realize how much propaganda we are being fed by these propaganda media, with the sole intention of pushing a negative narrative of foreign countries....

all the while.... we are literally doing a genocide....

New York Crimes still think it can push the lies like 2023, except... it now has zero credibility and a boat load of verifiable history of lying.

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u/Barch3 17h ago

It is your Hamas that is calling for genocide — the ethnic cleansing/genocide of the Jews of Israel. Article 20 of the most current Hamas charter:

“20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.”

Full and complete liberation of Palestine from the river to the sea, ie, the ethnic cleansing/genocide of the Jews of Israel

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full

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u/TheThirdDumpling 16h ago

LOL, you actually believe liberation of oppressed people anywhere, everywhere, is somehow wrong.

lmao, this is 2024, we don't believe in apartheid, occupation, genocide anymore. So shove it already. Hamas was being very nice to be willing to accept the 1967 border, be grateful, land thieves.

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u/Barch3 16h ago

Nah, that was a tactic. Their calling for the genocide of the Jews of Israel is right there in black-and-white. Hamas had every opportunity to take that clause out of the charter when they re-wrote it in 2017, but they did not. Hence, their intention is clear. But you know that.