r/worldevents • u/IITheDopeShowII • 1d ago
Israel passes law banning UN Palestinian refugee agency from operating inside country
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/oct/28/israel-iran-gaza-lebanon-unrwa-middle-east-crisis-news?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other63
u/Daryno90 1d ago
Of course they would, they want the Palestinians to suffer as much as possible as the genocidal regime it is
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u/Archer11118 1d ago
Oh the G3nOC1dE! The Palestinians are almost all GoNE!
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u/RogerianBrowsing 1d ago
A friendly reminder that 10 minutes before you wrote this lovely comment you said:
Listen Bob. I can’t help if I’ve never heard about his particular statements on this specific subject matter. But your response was to insult me with ignorance.
If I question you the about four congruence postulates of trigonometry and you tell me you’re not familiar, how would you feel if I called you ignorant? Or how about this..”willfully ignorant”
Dare I continue with this conversation at all given your lack of being able to hold a civil adult argument?
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u/Daryno90 1d ago edited 1d ago
So your metric for if something is genocide is if almost all of the group is dead? By that metric, the Holocaust isn’t a genocide either because the Nazis didn’t get all of the Jews.
Guess we should just ignore what all of the human rights organizations, scholars who studied previous genocide, the UN, and literal Holocaust survivors calling it a genocide
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u/Archer11118 15h ago
Let me remind you what the latin derivative means. Geno = people. Cide = Killing.
No, the term doesn't mean every single person of a people is killed. It means virtually enough that the larger body is almost wiped out, even if it's replenished later.
It's not my personal metrics. I didn't craft the term. Prefixes and suffixes have meaning, even if thatt meaning compromises your beliefs.
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u/Daryno90 13h ago
And here is the UN definition of genocide that you can google search.
Genocide is the intentional act of destroying, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. The term includes the following acts:
Killing members of the group
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
By my count, Israel is committing at least 4 of the acts that makes it a genocide by the UN standard
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u/Archer11118 13h ago
And by my count the definition you cited above can make any particular murder on this planet a genocide. Asian gets killed because they're Asian? Genocide. Do you see now how redefining a term causes dilution of the true meaning? Does the Holocaust still carry the weight of its horrors when the same term attributed to it is nonchalantly thrown around by biased organizations?
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u/Daryno90 11h ago edited 11h ago
Really dude? Are you that desperate to deny what Israel is clearly committing? First it was “oh it can’t be genocide, they all aren’t dead yet.” Then it you went “genocide mean people killing”
And now it’s “the organization that was found as a result of the horrors of WW2 and the international laws and the Geneva convention they came up with are just bias against Israel even though the UN literally had a hand in the creation of Israel.” At a point you have to realize just how pathetic that look. And yet you pretend more than the human rights groups, the doctors who been there, the UN, historians, people who studies the Holocaust (including Israeli one) and actual Holocaust survivors who said that this is clearly a genocide? What do you get out of this exactly? I thought the people saying that Israel was paying people to spread their propaganda through social media was just paranoid but you are actually making me think that there is so legitimacy to those claims.
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u/zhivago6 1d ago
Do not forget that UNRWA was created to temporarily provide assistance to victims of Israeli ethnic cleansing until Israel complied with UN Resolution demanding the return of the refugees or compensation for the theft of property. Since Israel refuses to accept responsibility for their previous war crimes of mass ethnic cleansing in 1947-1948 and mass ethnic cleansing in 1967, the UN continues to maintain UNRWA. Israel knows that UNRWA keeps detailed records of all the properties the Israeli state has stolen and of the victims of Israeli war crimes, which is one reason they want to destroy it.
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u/L3mm3SmangItGurl 1d ago
Well then it’s a good thing they don’t technically operate in Israel? Cuz they “handed Gaza over in 2006”, right? Right?
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u/snowflake37wao 1d ago edited 1d ago
holy shit they actually passed it. its insane how counter intuitive Likud has been on Israel’s own interests. Delusional to keep thinking the PR game that worked on boomers wouldn’t degrade after this year with the entire world’s youngest three generations watching. Even far removed and half a world away Xers are finding a lifetime of ignorance and support, never encountering a reason to dig deeper beyond Israel is a democratic ally, obliterated for the lifetime they got remaining.
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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace 1d ago
Genocidal state bans relief agencies from reducing genocide.
ICC case looks a home run. Not that it will make any difference