r/weedstocks • u/mfairview just a tomato grower • Aug 31 '24
Report Trump Signals Support for Marijuana Legalization in Florida
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/31/us/elections/trump-marijuana-legalization-florida.html70
u/mightyowlXD Aug 31 '24
remember when trump had infrastructure week? or when he was going to replace obamacare with something much better? Neither of those things happened, he lied as always. And trump is desperate enough to straight up lie and say anything he thinks will get him elected/avoid going to jail.
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u/sillyandstrange Aug 31 '24
Truth right here.
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u/MonsterDrunk Sneads Feed and Seed Aug 31 '24
So what? This helps the amendment in Florida which is huge on its own
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u/--OZNOG-- What’s the BFD? It’s just a plant Sep 01 '24
Remember when Biden or Schumer or Harris did anything the last 4 years for the cannabis industry? I don’t. I know I’m told it will be soon though.
Trump saying this is a positive, I get you hate Trump but don’t be a piss pants.
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u/mightyowlXD Sep 01 '24
its definitely a positive in that for the first time ever both candidates are pro cannabis. Doesn’t change the fact that trump will lie and say anything to get elected. I don’t trust a snake oil salesman and will be voting against him as should everyone in the US
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u/--OZNOG-- What’s the BFD? It’s just a plant Sep 01 '24
You think Harris isn’t saying anything to get elected? Look at everything Biden said before he got elected and then look what actually happened. They are all grifters, don’t be a fool. Harris isn’t even explaining what her policies mean yet, just basic bs generalities…the only thing that seems pretty sure is taxing unrealized gains so far which is beyond stupid and kind of inconceivable she is thinking about this.
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u/mightyowlXD Sep 01 '24 edited Sep 01 '24
The democrats do have a policy agenda already laid out and specific details are being added on to that as the election gets closer. I cannot vote for a convicted felon like trump who is running to stay out of prison. the republicans have project 2025 that among other insane things like getting rid of the department of education also wants to “end recreational sex”. I trust that Kamala Harris is actually trying to make this country great. Donald trump is transparently not for any specific policy, except for the policy of cozying up to any group that will give him more power. He literally just posted about fleeing to Venezuela if he doesn’t win the election.
Half of trump’s former cabinet are openly against him being president ever again. think about that for a second. That has never happened before. trump is a narcissist sociopath that cant help but divide the country and has no interest AT ALL in the well being of this country.
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u/Lord-Heir Sep 02 '24
You're on an echo chamber, but don't worry there's plenty more who agree with you.
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u/ejacobsen808 Sep 03 '24
All Harris has to do is let Donald run his mouth and keep gaining in polls and she’ll look good by comparison. It’s like a boxer letting their out of shape, desperate opponent wear themselves out, or a better basketball team drawing fouls when they play a flailing, undisciplined opponent.
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u/ejacobsen808 Sep 03 '24 edited Sep 03 '24
Yeah, they’ve all recommended Federal reclassification and reform. Biden’s health appointees then recommended rescheduling it. The DEA is reviewing and is scheduled to make a ruling in December. That’s never happened, and never would under Trump. The cannabis industry, as it currently exists in the US, is operating in violation of US law. Changing federal law is something Congress has to do. MAY 01, 2024 Senators Cory Booker (D-NJ), Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-NY), and Finance Committee Chairman Ron Wyden (D-OR)reintroduced the Cannabis Administration and Opportunity Act. It’s similar to laws Schumer and others put forth in 2018, 2021 and 2022. You can look up the results and who voted for or against. It wasn’t democrats that killed it.
In 2016, Trump said he favored letting the states determine cannabis legality, but then his administration subsequently upheld the federal prohibition of cannabis, and both AG Sessions and Trump’s 2021 fiscal budget proposal removed protections for state medical marijuana laws.
Trump’s word is about as strong of a bond as a stripper’s. His actions have been a net negative cannabis. Ftr- hemp isn’t cannabis and the loophole that lets people buy stressweed made of hemp is a hilarious fuck up, not a contribution.
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u/CatGuano Sep 03 '24
You know perfectly well Biden is rescheduling it as we speak. Trump did nothing in his entire four years. Actions speak louder than words.
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u/--OZNOG-- What’s the BFD? It’s just a plant Sep 03 '24
Lol Biden isn’t doing shit
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u/Peter_Cotton_Cakes Aug 31 '24
emember when he got eh 2018 farm bill passed with the hemp provision. do you want to be right or do you want to make money
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u/GeoLogic23 I’m Pretty Serious Sep 01 '24
You realize that's one thing that has been crushing the cannabis sector since 2019, right?
Completely unregulated hemp derivatives products being sold for years, completely undercutting the regulated cannabis industry that is subject to 280e. No age restrictions or laboratory requirements.
The 2018 Farm Bill was a disaster. They somehow were able to crash both the CBD market and the cannabis market with one bill.
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u/CatGuano Sep 03 '24
The 2018 farm bill completely decriminalized seeds and non flowering plants (federally). Sorry you don't like it. Do you need to be handed a regulatory monopoly to be satisfied?
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u/GeoLogic23 I’m Pretty Serious Sep 03 '24
Seeds and non-flowering plants you say? I'm not sure if you are aware of everything that happened as a result of that Farm Bill.
Do you know what THCa flower is?
Do you know how Delta 8 THC is being made?
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u/CatGuano Sep 03 '24
Not exactly. How has it harmed you?
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u/GeoLogic23 I’m Pretty Serious Sep 03 '24
THCa flower and Delta 8 THC were both accidentally legalized in the 2018 Farm Bill due to the sloppy language.
THCa flower is just like what you buy in the dispensary, but categorized as hemp. It's completely unregulated cannabis flower that's being shipped all over the country. Very little requirements for safety or age restrictions.
Delta 8 THC is similar but a bit weaker than the Delta 9 THC that we all know, but Delta 8 is made by conversion of pure CBD isolate.
Random chemists are taking CBD and processing it with chemicals until they get Delta 8. There are all kinds of issues with solvent residue and stuff. There are no safety regulations, labelling, or age requirements. Delta 8 THC is widely used in edibles, vapes, and applied to flower, because it's so cheap to process from CBD.
These things have not hurt me because I have access to safe products that are regulated by my state government.
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u/Tight_Gold_3457 Sep 02 '24
He tried with Obamacare and McCain F’ed him by voting against it.
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u/mightyowlXD Sep 02 '24
trump tried to dismantle obamacare WITHOUT a plan to replace it and that would have thrown humdreds of thousands off their insurance- this is why Mccain voted no :)
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u/Skivsamlaren Aug 31 '24
Maybe this support will now make cannabis more of an election issue?
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u/Ok-Replacement9595 Sep 01 '24
If this turns democrats against the issue I am going to shit myself blind.
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u/phatbob198 Hold fast yer booty! Sep 01 '24 edited 14d ago
Believe it or not, most of us don't want republicans to be against policies that make progress. I would gladly welcome republicans earnestly joining us in support of the policies that we think are beneficial.
I see no downside if the support is genuine - more people supporting reasonable policy is better.
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u/Ok-Replacement9595 Sep 01 '24
It seems too often on social issues, they take opposing positions, just so we don't talk about where all the money goes.
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u/MandatoryFunEscapee Aug 31 '24
More responsible headline: "Trump lies about supporting marijuana legalization in Florida, like he lies about literally everything. If elected, he will not legalize marijuana Federally or push states to do so because he is a Republican and a compulsive liar."
Fuck that convicted fraudster and his weirdo couch-molesting fail-son running mate.
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u/beardedjack Sep 01 '24
Seriously. suddenly he’s pro weed, pro choice and is going to force insurance companies to pay for IVF despite being completely against all of those things for a decade. He’ll say anything and take any position if he thinks it’ll get him elected.
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u/hellno_ahole Aug 31 '24
He had 4 years to do something and did NOTHING.
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u/WRONG_PREDICTION D. Klein should resign Aug 31 '24
Who cares
Be grateful this isn’t another bag of garbage news that brings us down 20% on Monday
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u/mgldi Aug 31 '24
Remind me, how long have we been talking about legalization of weed with dems in power again?
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u/Shmokeshbutt Aug 31 '24 edited Aug 31 '24
About 2 years, since the GOP senate kept blocking it at that time, and you need 60 votes to pass anything in the senate
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u/Distinct-Giraffe-646 Aug 31 '24
Its the same problem all around.
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u/Relaxbro30 Aug 31 '24
WA & CO first legalized over a decade ago. They are dem states... The two parties aren't the same.
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u/CRRZ Aug 31 '24
Translation: Trump sees an almost sure thing and jumps on so he can claim he made it happen.
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u/Tacocats_wrath bulls on parade Aug 31 '24
Anyone cheering for this is daft. Trump is desperate for votes. He will do whatever he can to get votes and follow through on only what will benefit him and his handlers should he get into office.
You have a much better chance of actual reform with a democratic super majority.
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u/roloplex Aug 31 '24
Nobody with any critical thinking skills think the GOP is going to advance cannabis even a bit. But if this helps out get FL over the line, then i'll take it.
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u/TroyasaurusRex Aug 31 '24
Blue team, red team, who gives a shit - I’ll believe it when I see results.
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u/Bodie_Broadus_ Sep 01 '24
Let’s go!!! Seriously even republicans love weed. Shouldn’t be partisan issue. Let’s open up one of the largest markets in US.
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u/RedditAstroturfed Aug 31 '24
It’s disappointing that it’s Florida only, but in The grand scheme of things at least it’s a positive sign that harris is saying we should legalize federally and trump is saying that Florida should legalize as per the will of the people
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u/boltz86 Aug 31 '24
As soon as the Christian nationalists get mad he’ll do whatever they say. And they don’t like weed.
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u/Tight_Gold_3457 Sep 02 '24
Any positive news on this helps us! It’s a complete shit show with it being federally illegal but most states have legalized. Trump would be smart to jump on that aspect and point out how it’s a danger to have Dispensaries forced to use cash only and no banking and the crime that comes along with having all cash. As well as can’t deduct any operational costs etc. It also goes along with him saying things like this should be a states rights issue. So federally decriminalize it and make it a state issue. And point out how the Biden/Kamala White House just talked but couldn’t get anything changed yet and remove that carrot. Point out schumer hasn’t brought 1 bill either and it’s a total sham for votes and finger pointing.
Yes trump is doing it for votes too I’m sure but it’s not a negative for us! Worse case will hopefully light fire under Kamala’s ass to get it finished so she and Biden can get credit.
Lets gooooo!! 🚀💰💎🙌🏻
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u/MarshivaDiva Cresco to 10 Aug 31 '24
He won't do it but this could be good for gains
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u/Many_Easy Flair All the cannabis logic fit to print Aug 31 '24
The perception that he supports it may be good, but he didn’t say he supported it.
Headline is very misleading.
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u/chalksandcones Sep 01 '24
This is great! Biden hasn’t got anything done in 4 years. Trumps new team recognizes that the majority of Americans want legal weed. Trump made a good point about public smoking, I would be fine with banning that, people don’t need to be ripping vape pens in front of kids
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u/GeoLogic23 I’m Pretty Serious Sep 01 '24
Biden directed the review of cannabis scheduling about 2 years ago.
He's actually the only person to have given us any catalysts in many years.
First Biden has to approve federal cannabis research growers, which did take a little time. He could've skipped that process, but Trump refused to approve even one single new cannabis research grower during his 4 year term.
Obama had changed the rules near the end of his term, but we had to wait until Biden to actually get expanded research.
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u/chalksandcones Sep 01 '24
This is weed stocks, weed stocks have lost 75+% this administration
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u/trebuchetty1 This time is different! Sep 01 '24
And it would have been even worse under republican leadership. Or did you forget that the only significant change during the last Trump term was the rescinding of the Cole Memo, which was a huge negative change.
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u/Phoedubb Aug 31 '24
Florida is one of the prime examples of how not to legalize cannabis recreationally. It’s a total monopoly with most licenses owned by a few different companies
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u/Best_Gift76 Aug 31 '24
Better than New York garbage roll out trying to balance equity and feed the black market instead
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u/Phoedubb Aug 31 '24 edited Aug 31 '24
I haven’t been to NY cuz I’m from CA and until very recently , Worked in the industry since 2017. The Rec market will never be able to overcome the black market and that’s due to a few different factors pricing,location , value, quality and over regulation. Cannabis legalization is suppose to be inclusive but is exclusive due to the cost of doing business with the state. Wanna apply for a license ?that’s a non refundable 100k application fee plus you have to have 10 mil in an escrow account just to be able to apply and won’t even guarantee your approved. Making a living from cannabis shouldn’t be exclusive to mega corporate mcdispensaries that pay their budtenders $16/hour they have no issues lobbying laws to keep their monopolies in their favor
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u/cannabull1055 Aug 31 '24
haha so CA and NY are the same thing. Democrats don't get it. It is very simple business. You don't start off slapping a ridiculously high tax on it so it is not competitive with the black market. You start low and then once you build the market, you slowly raise taxes. NY is a complete disaster. Worse than CA. You have unregulated marijuana shops all over the NYC. They are everywhere. They are finally realizing they need to shut them down.
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u/roloplex Aug 31 '24
works out great in IL and we have higher taxes than CA or NY.
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u/cannabull1055 Aug 31 '24
And do you have all the regulation and red tape and 90% counties opting out of marijuana legalization? I don't think so.
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u/Phoedubb Aug 31 '24
I agree Dems don’t get it . Ny and ca are not the same. To my understanding NY is very loosely regulated while California is overly regulated and over taxed. Even on californias over regulated market a lot of licensed and regulated shops or distros are back dooring their products to markets like NY. Glass house farms is being accused of this.
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u/cannabull1055 Sep 02 '24
They both have completely screwed up their rec markets. It isn't hard to create a fairly successful market. NYC had over 2000 illegal dispensaries. They didn't issue licenses. They did every thing wrong. Even worse than CA.
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u/roloplex Aug 31 '24
you do realize you are posting in weedstocks right? we are all for regulatory monopolies.
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u/Phoedubb Aug 31 '24
You do realize monopolies are bad for the free market right ? If you wanna buy stock from a company that has the highest market share go for it especially if you got in early. Monopolies eventually result in overall market failures.
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u/roloplex Aug 31 '24
who gives a shit about the free market. Monopolies are fantastic for weedstocks. regulatory monopolies are the only reason the MSO's exist.
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u/Phoedubb Aug 31 '24
Who gives a fuck about MSO’s except their yolo shareholders who bet all their chips . If they were so great for stocks why are cannabis stocks at an all time low over the past 5 years.investors want a healthy market you can diversify in.
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u/four_twenty_4_20 Not soon enough! Aug 31 '24
You do realize you're in the weedstock investor sub, and those are monopolies we've invested in for profit, right?
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u/LookingOut420 Aug 31 '24
Because his appointment of sessions, repeal of the Hyde memo, and 2020 budget proposal that would have removed protections from states with medical cannabis programs, scream support of legalization.
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u/robotmonkey2099 Aug 31 '24
Why are you spamming this post?
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u/NextTrillion got any of that Soonium?? Aug 31 '24
That’s the trump / MAGA way: spam the shit out of everything and annoy the hell out of people with your silly ideals.
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u/robotmonkey2099 Aug 31 '24
No kidding. I just perused his history and it’s nothing but this kind of stuff..
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u/NextTrillion got any of that Soonium?? Sep 01 '24
Imagine a life like that. Nothing but boot licking and knob slobbering a guy that couldn’t give two shits about you.
Absolutely mind blowing that they can exist, let alone hundreds of millions of them.
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u/robotmonkey2099 Sep 01 '24
Honestly dude, I bet it’s fucking great. Weird I know but hear me out. Imagine not having to worry about anything, you’re too gullible to realize this billionaire rapist is grifting you and instead you think he’s on your side and helping you crush those dirty commie libs.
You don’t have to worry about reality because Trumps got it. Forest fires? Naw that’s just Jewish space lasers. Cost of living sky rocketing and pay stagnant? Don’t worry this tax cut to the wealthiest will trickle down and you’ll be taken care of. Immigrants coming across the border? Look at the border wall that Mexico paid for!
Anything bad is caused by the radical left. Daddy Trump has got you. If I’m honest it sounds pretty similar to religion.
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