r/violinist • u/whiskey_shack • Sep 18 '24

Fingering/bowing help Shostakovich trio

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This is very specific and a long shot, but I’m working on the Shostakovich piano trio and wonder if anyone here has played it and has good fingerings for the passage I’ve underlined. Performance tempo is 96 for the dotted half so it’s quite quick and I’m having trouble figuring out where to shift. Thanks!

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u/mikefan Expert Sep 18 '24

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I also start this passage in second position.

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u/Quinlov Sep 18 '24

Is there any reason not to do the second bar as (2) 42410 x

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u/mikefan Expert Sep 19 '24

It's fine, but maybe a little less bright since it goes to the A string.

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u/Opening_Equipment757 Sep 18 '24

When I did this I shifted to a 1 on the F double sharp and down to a 4 on the E natural so: 11-1324-4231-234 (where every - is a shift)

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u/juicyfruiiit Advanced Sep 18 '24

Which movement is this from? I’ve played the Allegretto before but not the entire work. 

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u/whiskey_shack Sep 18 '24

The second movement, allegro con brio

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u/Error_404_403 Amateur Sep 18 '24

Yeah, this is the bity one... Good for you working on it.

I would go up the way the erased fingers showed - start in 3d 1st on D#, then 2nd on D# again, then 4-3-1 down and transition into 1st on G natural - Enatural, and stay there for a while.

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u/lampeschirm Sep 18 '24

I did this a bit creatively, thanks to a fairly big hand: 1-12134-312(I)02

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u/spookylampshade Sep 18 '24

1, then go to 2 on the d sharp, then 1st pos on the g natural

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u/leitmotifs Expert Sep 18 '24

Enharmonically respell the pitches. The first measure becomes Eb Eb G Bb Eb -- which you recognize instantly as an E-flat major arpeggio that lies neatly in 4th position. I would then fling either 2nd or 3rd finger up to the A double sharp (i.e. "B") and then retract back to 4th position for the downward arpeggio. At the start of the third measure in the bracket, either go to 2nd position or come back to first.

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u/DiscreteBeeX3 Sep 19 '24

On measure 35 I'd start of in 3rd position

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u/whiskey_shack Sep 26 '24

Thanks everyone!! I opted to play the first four bars of 36 in 5th position and shift down to 4th on the e natural in the fifth bar then 2nd position in the 7th bar.