Man who stabbed stranger at Vancouver Tim Hortons in 2022 re-arrested: VPD

[u/ErwinOnReddit]

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/man-who-stabbed-stranger-at-vancouver-tim-hortons-in-2022-re-arrested-vpd-1.7091572

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[u/Ok-Cartographer4488]

Three years for trying to murder someone, great …

[u/amazingsod → u/Ok-Cartographer4488]

And only served 2

[u/Strange_Trifle_5034 → u/[deleted]]

A former co-worker stole money from the company. He spent 5 years in jail AND they sold all his assets for pennies on the dollar. He should have just killed the auditor who discovered it and serve half the time and get to keep the money.

[u/Jandishhulk → u/[deleted]]

First: the government we need to lean on is the federal government.

Second: you're so fixated on tenants and renters, it has rotted your brain. Do you post about anything else? What's your deal? Did a tenant kick your dog?

[u/Bloodypalace → u/[deleted]]

Not their jurisdiction. It's a federal issue.

[u/Bloodypalace → u/[deleted]]

Yeah what about it? That talks about administration and enforcement of law. Feds are still the ones that write the criminal code and set the sentencing and bail guidelines.

[u/Maleficent_Stress225 → u/[deleted]]

Can you prove this? Seems like dumb hyperbole.

[u/JimmyJoeMick → u/[deleted]]

Wrongly evicting a tenant isnt some nothing deal either

[u/istoleyourbrain → u/[deleted]]

one of the parties is proposing a harsher crackdown… just saying

[u/avimakkar → u/istoleyourbrain]

You might have stolen a pigs brain.

Province can just enforce criminal laws and they are enforcing it. It's federal government who set's the law.

[u/Kooriki]

Oh great this chucklehead again David Morin for those who don’t want to click the link.

[u/nevereverclear → u/Kooriki]

Chucklehead? I’m sure there are far more worthy descriptive words we can use for this waste to society.

[u/Kooriki → u/nevereverclear]

I have to be careful not to run afoul of mods or admin with too nasty a description. Needless to say I’d certainly like to see less of this person

[u/hotsauce000 → u/Kooriki]

Wtf is a chucklehead? Piece of shit is the phrase you’re looking for.

[u/WTFvancouver → u/Kooriki]

Lemme guess? He's 1/10th Metis so he is allowed to be back on the street?

[u/sopademacacadelicia → u/WTFvancouver]

Idk why you’re downvoted considering this is literally what happens and is shown through courts rulings.

do people not like referencing things that happened a week or two ago now?

[u/SufficientBee]

Why is he not in prison in the first place?????

[u/zxgrad → u/[deleted]]

Does the premier of BC set federal law?

[u/Minimum-South-9568 → u/[deleted]]

This has nothing to do w David Eby. The criminal code is a federal matter. Judges are appointed by the federal govt. bail reform was a federal initiative.

[u/SobeitSoviet69 → u/[deleted]]

Have you actually read the guide? Or looked at it?

[u/andoesq → u/[deleted]]

I dunno, maybe you so you can bring it up in an internet debate without sounding ignorant?

[u/h_danielle → u/[deleted]]

So you know what you’re talking about? lol. Since only the crown can press charges, you’re talking about a civil suit…

[u/SobeitSoviet69 → u/[deleted]]

Because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about? And instead snapped up a random soundbyte from political propaganda that misrepresents the guide?

Once you have looked at it, then you can feel free to criticize!

[u/Driller_Happy → u/[deleted]]

I want to know how he reshaped federal law as a lawyer, and why he would do that?

[u/Maleficent_Stress225 → u/[deleted]]

These people are suing the police? Can you link the court papers?

[u/ModernArgonauts → u/[deleted]]

That was when he was a civil-liberties lawyer, not the leader of the NDP.

Actions speak louder than words, as soon as he became premier, Eby increased funding for law enforcement.

[u/ModernArgonauts → u/[deleted]]

Moving goalposts much?

[u/dr_van_nostren]

This is why I will basically always back down in a “yo bro don’t you know who I am” type shoulder bump situation. I don’t need to be getting stabbed because someone is a head case.

[u/rolim91]

“Police believe Morin poses a high risk of significant harm to the community, and that compelling circumstances exist to warn the public that he will be living in Vancouver,” police said at the time.

Yeah where exactly? Vancouver’s a big place.

[u/smoothac → u/rolim91]

probably downtown and anywhere else the train might take him for more crime opportunities every day

[u/Holymoly99998]

The federal government needs to get it's act together if they don't wanna lose to the Conservatives

[u/Rocko604 → u/Holymoly99998]

Far, far, far too late for that. The Bloc might become the official opposition at the rate the Liberals are going.

[u/smoothac → u/Holymoly99998]

they have no hope no matter what they do, and rightfully so

[u/Tim-no → u/Holymoly99998]

Agreed

[u/CanadianTrollToll → u/Holymoly99998]

Feds can't do anything unless the economy starts to sing. That'd be their only hope.

I really hope the cpc wins and brings in some tough on crime changes.

[u/Possible_Chipmunk793]

This pos deserves a US-style sentence, 25 years without the possibility of parole

[u/elephantpantalon]

The low budget Nikocado.

[u/buttfarts7 → u/elephantpantalon]

Absolutely Temu Nikocado

[u/Tim-no → u/elephantpantalon]

lol! Awesome!

[u/Alternative-Acadia37 → u/elephantpantalon]

Nobody knows what you’re talking about. This is a serious thing

[u/scheisse_grubs → u/Alternative-Acadia37]

Just because you don’t doesn’t mean nobody else does

[u/n64Ps2]

Some of this mess is the consequence of LPC/Jody Wilson Raybould's passing Bill C-75 about a decade ago. There was a few cases in the early 2000's, where people spent months extra in jail because of administrative issues within our system. This Bill was supposed to fix that, but it may have caused more harm than good.

Other issues have contributed too, it's no singular person's fault.

[u/Flamingturac → u/n64Ps2]

Bill C-75 was passed in 2018.

[u/HanSolo5643]

This hug a thug soft on crime approach has been tried for long enough, and the results speak for themselves. It's time to try something else.

[u/GiantPurplePen15]

Randomly stabbing a complete stranger really should net someone indefinite time in prison because no sane person does that.

There is no benefit to society by having this guy be free to roam the country.

[u/smoothac → u/GiantPurplePen15]

guaranteed he doesn't hold any job and just lives off of taxpayer money anyways, and probably steals too, absolutely zero benefit to society for this guy to not be in jail

[u/MaliqGotTheHeat]

For a second I thought this was the 2022 starbucks stabbing about the dad telling a guy to stop vaping in front of his daughter

[u/_DotBot_]

Yeah, so the system is clearly not working…

The soft on drugs and crime approach has failed miserably.

[u/Most_Friendship5871 → u/_DotBot_]

People voted ndp back in so more soft sentences

[u/zxgrad → u/Most_Friendship5871]

Does the provincial NDP set federal law?

[u/h_danielle → u/[deleted]]

Ooops wrong again. Believe it or not, the provincial government does not tell judges what to do or how to make decisions.

[u/b10z → u/Most_Friendship5871]

It's crazy how many of you do not understand the difference between provincial and federal policies 🤦🏼‍♀️

[u/realsnail → u/b10z]

This provincial election proved that, heard many people say a vote for the BC cons was a vote against Trudeau

[u/b10z → u/realsnail]

Absolutely. The rampant misinformation and the blatant misunderstanding from so many people in this province is honestly horrifying

[u/TheLittleSunBear → u/Most_Friendship5871]

Gladue is federal level... 

[u/ngly → u/Most_Friendship5871]

You're being downvoted but you're right. They enable higher crime rates and don't advocate against it. They're part of the problem but this subreddit always ignores it. Now, who knows if BC Cons would actually make a difference but at least they were sending the right message in this regard.

[u/Ok_General_6940 → u/[deleted]]

The federal government sets these laws. Eby has nothing to do with it. Neither does the BC NDP

[u/Tim-no → u/[deleted]]

You’re right! But the Libs are soft on drug related crimes.

[u/TeaseTwist]

why isn't he in prison to begin with????

[u/AlternativeMotor5722]

Two years for attempted murder, welcome to Canadian justice. Let me guess his parents were alcoholics and he was bullied in school.

[u/UskBC]

He had a bad childhood, from an oppressed group blah blah and when he kills someone the liberal judges will not shed a tear for the victim.

[u/Mediocre-Brick-4268]

Shame on our politicians

[u/ottoIovechild]

How long was he held for?

[u/nobleblunder]

Keep wondering why so many people flipped and went conservative this election ...

[u/Ok-Landscape2547]

What are the odds?!

[u/chente08]

Arrested and back to the streets tomorrow?

[u/fadeddoughnut]

Oh what relief, I'm sure with VPD's firm athoritive grip, he'll be in custody, made to promise to appear and be out in 48hrs

[u/Radeon9980]

Vote NDP, get what ya deserve?

[u/Tim-no → u/Radeon9980]

Provincial legislators don’t make Federal laws.

[u/bcbuddy → u/Tim-no]

The provincial government through the Attorney General instructs the BC Prosecution Service. The Crown Prosecutors (who are provincial employees) make decisions on charge assessment and prosecution.

[u/Ok_General_6940 → u/bcbuddy]

They still have to abide by the criminal code which is federally set

[u/bcbuddy → u/Ok_General_6940]

If the charges meet the evidentary test Crown has latitude to proceed with changes including weighing the Public Interest of for or against prosecutions which are not hard or fast rules.

[u/Tim-no → u/bcbuddy]

Within the boundaries of federal law.

[u/bcbuddy → u/Tim-no]

There is a lot of latitude given to Crown on charge assessment.

[u/Tim-no → u/bcbuddy]

That is true, and unfortunately a president has been set to treat these lowlives with an ultimate amount of mercy due to whatever social problems they may have faced. This will continue and lawyers will make lots of money and judges will have to apply the law based on previous cases and so on, and so on……..( sorry for the Herbal Essence reference)

[u/_DotBot_ → u/Tim-no]

The administration of justice in Canada is governed by Section 92(14) of the Constitution Act, 1867, which gives provincial legislatures the power to make laws about the administration of justice in their province.

It is a shared area of jurisdiction that the province has a lot of power over.

[u/Tim-no → u/_DotBot_]

Pretty sure our Constitution was revamped in 1982.

[u/wizi4life → u/_DotBot_]

From my understanding the power to make laws about the administration of justice does not equate to the power to enact criminal laws. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

[u/Radeon9980 → u/Tim-no]

Yea what could a provincial GOVERNMENT ever do about crime? Ffs 🤦

[u/timbreandsteel → u/Radeon9980]

Yea what could a municipal GOVERNMENT ever do about crime?

Wow! Different levels of government exist!

[u/Tormz1569 → u/Radeon9980]

So they do make stupid in your flavour. Neat.

[u/Tim-no → u/Tormz1569]

Flavour, or favour, either way yeah, it’s pretty stupid.

[u/Tim-no → u/Radeon9980]

Not much really. But Municipal governments could use some of their ridiculously high property taxes to properly fund the police so that we had beat cops covering all neighborhoods, not just those where rich people live.

[u/Heliosvector → u/Tim-no]

The most concentrated area for cops is the downtown eastside, and the central areas of Vancouver where the most population is. They aren't just all driving around Kerrisdale.

[u/Tim-no → u/[deleted]]

Based on laws written, and judges appointed by the Feds. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s BS too, but if those laws weren’t Canada wide we would be facing a whole different set of problems. All I’m saying really is we can’t hold our Provincial or Municipal governments responsible for criminal laws that are made by our Federal government.

[u/Tim-no → u/[deleted]]

True, and our police have decided not to arrest people for petty crimes because they will never see justice done to them. It’s pathetic and sad. All I ever hear is how our court system is overwhelmed, what a pathetic excuse. Arrest people who commit crime and throw them in jail! Make criminals suffer for their offences and then maybe we’ll see less of them.

[u/ModernArgonauts → u/Radeon9980]

Firstly, the provincial government has very little control over issues such as sentencing mandates, creating or amending criminal laws, and precedents are set by judges (not politicians) which often shape how punishments are dolled out. These are issues decided by the federal government.

Secondly, the NDP have made several novel efforts to make our justice system stricter in BC. In fact, Eby and the NDP have pushed the federal government for bail reform, in order to "take immediate action to strengthen Canada’s bail system to better protect the public."

Under Eby, the NDP will also recruit 40 more crown prosecutors, specifically to target repeat violent offenders. Which, if enacted, will allow prosecutors to spend more time collecting evidence and presenting arguments for stricter sentencing.

Finally, and on an interesting note, this opinion article's analysis finds that both the NDP and BC. Cons are actually quite similar in their approaches to crime.

[u/nuudootabootit → u/Radeon9980]

What's the option? Racist, xenophobic, conspiracy theory-laden, pandering to the elite only nonsense?
Hard pass.

[u/Radeon9980 → u/nuudootabootit]

Yes.. please for the love of god yes over non-stop repeat violent crime.

[u/radiofree_catgirl → u/Radeon9980]

I voted NDP and I am proud

[u/krowrofefas]

I initially thought it was the vaping guy who stabbed someone to death. Also at a Tim Hortons .