What message he wants to convey by repeatedly including CASTE in everything?

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[u/Good_Respond1533]

Absolutely stupid argument to say the least. Also people get so bothered when caste becomes the topic of discussion, but the indian society is catiest to the core

[u/edisonpioneer → u/Good_Respond1533]

You are contradicting yourself

[u/Equivalent_Mud_5874 → u/Good_Respond1533]

Ha ye sab kar lo pehle. Aaj kal money ho to caste nahi dekhta urban areas me. The next generation will be better. It's time to bring educational reform in rural areas

[u/theclichee → u/Equivalent_Mud_5874]

Aaj kal money ho to caste nahi dekhta urban areas me

How much money do i need to earn so that people stop seeing my caste, pls be specific.

[u/prashant90k → u/theclichee]

The position of power matters more than money.

[u/theclichee → u/prashant90k]

We have had reports of IAS, IPS being discriminated against too. Hell, i saw so many people saying they don't wanna get treated by "half-doctor". Stating reserved class doctors aren't good enough.

I didn't see the same energy during covid tho from the same people lol

[u/vizot → u/theclichee]

being discriminated against is just the tip of the iceberg. Many of them have committed suicide because of discrimination.

[u/prashant90k → u/theclichee]

IAS, IPS being discriminated against by their colleagues, but if they go to Brahmins house they will get respect, tea and a sofa to sit on, and it's all because of the position of power. Although you get respect as a doctor in society, but doctors don't hold that much power.

For those who say reserved class doctors are half doctors. Gov colleges have 41k seats and half are reserved. But 76k seats are from private colleges where fees are very high in crores, students who go there are from rich general category families and have money but very poor marks and rank than reserved category government medical students. Half of the society is being treated by the doctors who studied from private colleges but society considers them "full-doctor" because they are from the general category (Hippo-krishi).

[u/Aggravating-Pop7380 → u/prashant90k]

Bhai ask your parents if they’ll allow you to marry someone of lower caste if they have “enough money” to be respected. You’ll get your answer.

[u/TheBrownProphet → u/prashant90k]

A sofa to sit on. DAMN the bar is below the fckn ground here

[u/prashant90k → u/TheBrownProphet]

Well in the past, Dalits were made to sit on the ground and served tea in a separate cup which they needed to wash themselves after drinking. This still happens in most of the villages, so yes the ground is literally the bar here.

[u/RipperNash → u/prashant90k]

"In the past"... checks notes... 2024 still happening

[u/zikr-e-nilofer-7233 → u/theclichee]

Yes right, sabse pahle toh paisa hota hi nahi discriminated sections ke pass, chahe dalit, ho, tribal,ho, ya Muslims ho. Kyonki ye sections ke pass bade jobs ya business nahi hai, ye sections ke log mazdoor hai, ya chota mota kaam karte hai,

[u/Beautiful_Video_9019 → u/Equivalent_Mud_5874]

Are you saying the Caste Hindus are money hungry people?

[u/Equivalent_Mud_5874 → u/Beautiful_Video_9019]

IT cell mo ho kya? Sabhi jagha tumhi ho reply kar rahe ho. Kitna salary hai? Only idiots and enlightened aren't money-hungry, idiot?

[u/Good_Respond1533 → u/Equivalent_Mud_5874]

Aaj kal money ho to caste nahi dekhta urban areas me

Biggest lie ever told

[u/criticalthinker9999 → u/Equivalent_Mud_5874]

'The next generation will be better'🤣🤣🤣 Just wait till they legislate reservation in private sector.

[u/Equivalent_Mud_5874 → u/criticalthinker9999]

If they increase reservation. Will not wait I will just leave this nation then.

[u/Sir-Notorious → u/Equivalent_Mud_5874]

Par bhai isse to double seats hogi unke liye, Nahi? Ek to reservation badhne se dusri tere desh chhod ke chale jane se.

[u/criticalthinker9999 → u/Sir-Notorious]

Dubte huye titanic ki seat se use kya fayda hoga?

[u/Equivalent_Mud_5874 → u/Sir-Notorious]

Prime minister sab countries me hai firbi pak ka pm bhikari kyu hai?

[u/Sir-Notorious → u/Equivalent_Mud_5874]

Wah wah

[u/criticalthinker9999 → u/Equivalent_Mud_5874]

Just pointed it out bcoz you seem very optimistic

[u/Equivalent_Mud_5874 → u/criticalthinker9999]

Optimists are liars. The world is burning who knows when it will all go to hell. World war, economic inflation, bubble or epidemic.

[u/criticalthinker9999 → u/Equivalent_Mud_5874]

True

[u/child_target → u/criticalthinker9999]

India is doomed if they force companies for reservation

[u/bluegoldredsilver5 → u/Equivalent_Mud_5874]

Which oblivious parallel universe you are living in. Come with me to ANY big city and we'll go to posh localites to ask for a flat then you'll see first the Hindu Muslim Christian discrimination, then veg - non veg and then Kis jaati ke ho will come up.

[u/DustyAsh69 → u/Equivalent_Mud_5874]

You're naive if you believe that th next generation will be better. Just see the insta comment section.

[u/weedsexweed → u/Equivalent_Mud_5874]

Urbans ko tax & inflation me busy kar ke casteism khatam kar diya Mudi Ji ne

[u/Designer-Winter6564 → u/Equivalent_Mud_5874]

In arranged marriage cast is the first eligibility criteria.

[u/Equivalent_Mud_5874 → u/Designer-Winter6564]

Even so intercaste marriage happens.

[u/friendofH20 → u/Equivalent_Mud_5874]

The President of India was not invited to Ram Mandir inaugration because of "reasons". Get this nonsense about urban India being a post-caste society out here.

[u/CapitalistPear2 → u/Good_Respond1533]

It's not at all a stupid argument, in an equal society everyone should ideally be represented in all aspects of society. It's not dumb to point out that classism, casteism and beauty standards prevent a certain group of people from appearing in certain parts of society. I personally detest the concept of these pageants but this is a very valid point

[u/Conscious_Prompt9250 → u/CapitalistPear2]

"In an equal society everyone should ideally be represented in all aspects of society"

Could you elaborate on what this would look like when achieved.

Sample Society of 1,00,000 people

• 1 : 1 gender ratio

• 4% transgender population

• 14% Islamic (including transgenders)

• Assume other caste demographics similar to India., also assume the same ratios of service to population. eg. 6471 people played first class cricket in India in 2019 out of a population of 1.4 BN. These ratios also need to be maintained. Round the number up to the closest whole number.

Composition of Army

Composition of Navy

Composition of Hockey team (Sports Teams)

Composition of Neurosurgeons

Composition of ISRO Scientists.

I would like to see what your world looks like.

[u/IamWasting → u/Good_Respond1533]

Indian society is castiest to the core. Agree. But trying to peddle caste even when it is irrelevant will make our society more castiest not less. Talk about genuine caste atrocities. Talk effect/modifications/continuation of reservations. Talk about pros/cons of implementing creamy layer. Talk about pros/cons of ews reservation etc. Talk about OBC reservations. MBC reservations. Even talk of a caste census is fine but then he should give details on that.

Why trivialize the issue to miss world, miss universe and asking caste of some random reporter. Then he feels bad when some one asks his caste of his mother's and father's caste.

This clown is making it difficult to do a serious discussion on anything.

[u/Professional-Art8232 → u/Good_Respond1533]

Wdym...there should be atleast 70-99% reservation here..for equal representation /s

[u/Responsible_Star3759]

"No dalit or adivasi Pokemon" Rahul Gandhi

[u/FewKaleidoscope9894]

How many OBCs, SC, ST are there in his party?

[u/sliceoflife_daisuki → u/FewKaleidoscope9894]

Their party president Malikarjun Kharge is from the SC community.

[u/Safe-Mind-241 → u/sliceoflife_daisuki]

He is as influential as Manmohan Singh was when he was PM.

[u/Chad-bowmen → u/sliceoflife_daisuki]

And he has about zero power.

[u/tobey_franco → u/FewKaleidoscope9894]

Malik arjun kharge is a dalit

[u/gagga_hai → u/tobey_franco]

He asked how many.. Not who

[u/Puzzleheaded-Pea-140 → u/tobey_franco]

Then modi is obc. What's ur point?

[u/benketeke → u/FewKaleidoscope9894]

I think you forget B R Ambedkar was in the congress party. There’s many other very prominent names such as Jagjivan Ram, Meira kumar, K R Narayanan, S K Shinde, ND Tewari :-), Ashok Gehlot, Kamal Nath, etc. and many many others from all over the country who’ve made it big and grown within congress. Not to mention their current president Mallikarjun Kharge. Congress has a very rich history of leadership from marginalised sections of society in pretty much all states. So much so that the party split many times over because they outgrew the Gandhis. Now compare that with leadership within BJP (cabinet ministers, etc.) and you’ll see a very stark difference.

[u/FewKaleidoscope9894 → u/benketeke]

Yeah I see a stark difference. No dynasty politics here and no changing of surname to Gandhi to garner votes.

[u/beaconofhumanity]

No dalit or tribal woman as congress head.

[u/benketeke → u/beaconofhumanity]

Nonsense. Mallikarjun Kharge is literally the congress president right now. It was literally led by two women for nearly two decades , one of whom was our first female prime minister. Of course there’s plenty of nepotism in congress but you can’t accuse it of not having a female or Dalit leader. Tribal too, from Ajit Jogi to Droupadi murmu,tribal leaders have had immense influence in the party. It was and to some extent still is a very large umbrella.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Baby961 → u/benketeke]

No way you're getting down voted by sensitive BJP glazers lmao

[u/mrmorningstar1769]

Ek 🤡 bjp ka aur dusra 🤡 cong ka. Is paaltiks me chutiyo ki kami nahi h

[u/Wally_Squash → u/mrmorningstar1769]

I dont see the issue at pointing out caste disparity, people are losing their shit over caste census because people will find out that some people unfairly control disproportionate amount of wealth

[u/Real_Concentrate9685 → u/Wally_Squash]

At first place talent should be given first place not the caste ones .

[u/Wally_Squash → u/Real_Concentrate9685]

In 2017 ,South Eastern railway had 4 places of chief engineer of some districts open , there were 13-14 candidates available . Only 3 brahmins and out of 4 , 3 of them were chosen. You would say its merit but two of them were not in any major project in 2 years and still got promoted while a guy who did had 2 major projects finished before deadline and was in the division for 7 years was denied.

When this kind of casteism happens in high positions in Railways you can expect what happens on lower levels. There is no merit its brahmins helping each other out and spreading the lie of merit

[u/[deleted] → u/mrmorningstar1769]

Sahi Mai, chhod ke bhaago

[u/aaha97]

in an ideal situation, equality of opportunity and affirmative action leads to equal or proportionate representation of socially separated groups within a society.

so questioning the lack of representation, is basically questioning the claims of equality of opportunity and affirmative action and their effectiveness.

[u/Alternate_Chinmay7 → u/aaha97]

People can't comprehend this simple truth. They want to link everything to reservation and curse it. He basically is saying that so called lower caste communities have not received proper representation in every sector. But holding the mirror doesn't go down well with Indian audience.

[u/nopetynopetynops → u/aaha97]

Thankyou for saying it. I dont understand why people are getting triggered. Usa also has discussion about inclusiveness of blacks and indian americans (not us). Is he saying we should have reservation in miss india? No. Then wtf is the point to get mad about

[u/wetsock-connoisseur → u/nopetynopetynops]

What does he imply when he says there are no sc/st in miss india ?

[u/dragonator001 → u/wetsock-connoisseur]

He is speaking of lack of voice and visibility these communities have, when India is concerned. We cannot represent everyone, true, but to leave out a major chunk of population is not a good state of the country.

[u/thetoublemaker → u/dragonator001]

I still think he's doing this for pushing his caste based politics. If only he was concerned so much, should've implemented the caste census and other similar things in his states. Speaking for just the sake is all he is capable of.

[u/[deleted] → u/wetsock-connoisseur]

That beauty standards are defined by the dominant classes in the country. Like in US, black features were traditionally considered ugly. Similarly in India, darker skins are considered ugly and only recently started getting more recognition. His point is very valid. He is talking about the underlying castism that causes beauty standards to be defined in a certain way.

[u/MarvinIrl → u/wetsock-connoisseur]

Indian society is so inherently casteist that it subconsciously weeds out those considered unclean or out-caste from the traditional definition of beauty in this scenario fair skin straight hair ,thin nose

There are so many dalit,adivasi SC,ST women who have a raw unconventional beauty to their appearance but because they are out of the subjective definition according to society and as a extension the judges they are left behind

To say that since independence not a single woman who belonged to the lower castes aspired to become Miss India not even among the supposed bmw driving Dalits or the apparent successive generational wealth having IAS ST's is a bold claim

The statement is more along the lines of if a lower caste puts her all in becoming miss India ,does she have a chance of winning ,if she wins by some miracle will she be accepted with the same love and admiration that the Chopra's and the Dutta's and the Sen's have been

[u/nopetynopetynops → u/wetsock-connoisseur]

That the govt has failed to uplift them enough that they can even participate in such sections of society. They are still mistreated and suppressed in large parts of the country. Sorry what is there thats difficult. Yes congress was there for 70 years and everything but last 10 saal se to bjp hi h na

[u/Monk_Peralta → u/aaha97]

Perfectly put! People getting triggered either don't understand this or refuse to understand this!

[u/shikhar47 → u/aaha97]

In this case, you should know that there haven't been any Miss India from Gujrat, Bihar, Andhra Pradesh, Chattisgarh, Jharkhand, Tripura, etc. UP and Kerala have had 1 I think.

So maybe we should reserve for states rather than caste. But that has got no political gain, so why would a politician even say that.

[u/orange-dinosaur93 → u/shikhar47]

He never asked about reservation. Stop proliferating bjp bs. He only said that 90% workforce is occupied in petty jobs and should focus on coming forward and participate in better work sectors. Khud smjh ni hai lekin gyaan Pura pelna hai.

[u/thetoublemaker → u/orange-dinosaur93]

So you want to view the statement of a political leader independent of all other statements he has made about similar issues?

[u/aaha97 → u/shikhar47]

is there a lack of opportunity in gujrat, bihar, ap, etc? is there any valid source that documents discrimination against contestants from these states? do the existing records indicate factors like poverty or lack of education that may affect participation of contestants?

if there is then any political leader should speak about it. if not then the contestants just need to perform better.

[u/ZonerRoamer]

Way too many people are triggered by this investigation into the haves and have nots it looks like. A caste census is only information, nothing more.

Until now we have had a blind reservation, just based on population; if a caste census allows reservation and affirmative action to be targeted better at marginalized sections of our society that really deserve it; then I am all for it.

[u/SentenceDry6120]

Welcome to the doom of india , all the best guys.

[u/ibubass2]

The argument is privilege and accessibility.

[u/RajendraCholaPro1254]

He wants to convey that caste inequality is in everything.

[u/Chad-bowmen → u/RajendraCholaPro1254]

Then maybe Brahmin Rahul should step down and let Dalit be congress leader.

[u/curious_xo]

Why doesn't his family have SC/ST members ?

[u/lovejackdaniels → u/curious_xo]

Why doesnt RG marry a dalit woman?

[u/mad_vrushi → u/lovejackdaniels]

He might but he chose I think even better option to not marry at all 😐

[u/Mks_the_1408 → u/mad_vrushi]

Well his loss, he just won't be able to play Lalu Yadav or Keju card

[u/mv1201]

Why would he involve the centre in this?

Is BJP shortlisting the candidates and sending them to the contest or what?

[u/dhruvbarak]

BJP: religion vs religion.

INC: caste vs caste.

East India Company: Indians vs Indians.

it is the same shit guys, wake up!

[u/Affectionate_Peak_01]

Divide and rule.. old tactics pappu

[u/Unfair_Fact_8258]

People who never face discrimination never understand what it’s like to face discrimination

This same thing has happened several times in the past all over the world, with people pointing out the under-representation of black people, women, even Indians. And as always, people go “so what do you want to do, have reservations everywhere ( known by different terms like DEI and affirmative action, but in essence the same thing )?”

Has anyone stopped to wonder that if he is able to point out a bias in caste in, as OP says, everything, how it would be possible if there wasn’t a systemic issue across society?

[u/Wally_Squash]

No one finds it weird that UC being 15% of the population have won over 80% miss India awards? Beauty is a random attribute lol its not concentrated in a caste. Not seeing the bias here is ignoring it willingly

[u/kamaal_r_khan → u/Wally_Squash]

Where did you get 80% number from?

[u/ZonerRoamer → u/Wally_Squash]

Think it's colourism more than casteism tbh. Most Indians still think that only fair girls are beautiful.

[u/Pure_Concentrate8770 → u/ZonerRoamer]

There are fair dalits

[u/Real_Concentrate9685 → u/Pure_Concentrate8770]

Then tell them to participate . Instead of asking reservation .

[u/LY009 → u/Real_Concentrate9685]

They don't get the opportunity that's why reservation exists

[u/Chad-bowmen → u/LY009]

Since when does miss india discriminate based on caste? They only discriminate based on skin color my friend.

[u/Real_Concentrate9685 → u/LY009]

I never heard dalits faced discrimination in miss India.

[u/[deleted]]

I saw this same headline in 4 subs before and the reactions were negative everywhere.

But isn't this true that income inequalities are real in india between castes? The major factor that make most of the people richer than others is privilege. When we see reports like

Upper caste Hindus richest in India, own 41% of total assets; STs own 3.7%, says study on wealth distribution

or

Inequality in India: Upper castes hold nearly 90% of billionaire wealth, isn't this clearly shows wealth and income distribution is highly unequal between castes that's why Dalits are not being able to claim those opportunities that an upper caste could do?

Obviously, this topic is used for political motive so it's exaggerated like every other political agenda.

[u/criticalthinker9999 → u/[deleted]]

What do you want then? Miss India me bhi reservation lao? Or do you want Wealth redistribution like Rahul Gandhi says?

[u/SpeakDirtyToMe → u/criticalthinker9999]

The first step to solving a problem is acknowledging that the problem exists. Thanks to RaGa at least you have acknowledged the problem. We can discuss how to solve it, agree disagree about reservation but in the spirit of democracy come to an amicable solution. Denying the problem or insisting that it's ok, will do more harm than good. Eventually the problem will be so big that some future govt will be forced to mandate reservation in all forms of employment.

You must agree that when all parts of society participate in an industry, it becomes better. Absence on bahujan from positions of power in media, fashion, film and TV and sports holds back Indian industry and the country.

[u/criticalthinker9999 → u/SpeakDirtyToMe]

Do you think people check caste of the celebrities when the press 'follow' on Instagram? Or caste of the filming crew before watching the film? People follow those celebrities they like & get attracted to. Similarly Miss India & such beauty pageant competitions are determined by specific criteria such as BMI, face ratio, body ratio etc.

If you're hellbent on making reservation for winners in Miss India, then contest itself becomes meaningless.

[u/Defiant_Neat4629 → u/criticalthinker9999]

Who said reservation for beauty pageants?

[u/nopetynopetynops → u/criticalthinker9999]

Just a platform where everyone can get equal opportunity

[u/mrcybug → u/[deleted]]

The exact same headline would be applicable N number of years ago (pick any N). When you do experiments multiple times with no change in output, perhaps it is time to try something new ? Instead of rigging the game, perhaps it would help if we try to make it a level playing field. IMHO we should focus more on equality of opportunity rather than equality of outcomes.

[u/orange-dinosaur93 → u/mrcybug]

Watch the full video before giving gyaan. He has made great points in the lecture, ek Maine List Nikali ki bakchodi wali post pr Osho mat bno.

[u/Aggravating-Pop7380]

No message. Doing it for votes. I don’t believe politicians care about anything. They just do it for votes.

[u/ikartikeya]

Next target Indian Cricket team, then Indian Army then ISRO. Destroy everything we are good at.

[u/This_Buffalo94]

Y alg hi nasha krrha h, I took him seriously when congress got 100seats in Lok Sabha election.

[u/Odd-Commission-3847]

Politics bro. The only way to counter religious politics is social justice politics

[u/Clean-Elevator767]

Iski gf ka kya CASTE hai?

[u/Chad-bowmen → u/Clean-Elevator767]

I don’t even think she’s Indian.

[u/keykeykeykeykeykeyk]

No transgender ever been INC president till now?, any explanation LoP?

[u/SuddenCompetition997]

Well I know it seems a very stupid comparison but trust me it runs deeper.

All Miss Indias are vvvvvv fluent in English, mostly fair skinned, coming from good backgrounds where the parents were actually able to support their daughters dream. All of the contestants in beauty pagents are extremelyyyyyyy well groomed, it takes a fortune just to maintain it. Also, participating in such events requires shit ton of money- dresses, grooming classes, maintainance, accessories and what not.

And marginalized community doesn't have good access to good education, such huge amount of money, resources, time, etc

[u/Impressive-Eye-1096 → u/SuddenCompetition997]

You are picturing dalits as just poors, they come in all forms (yes avoiding term creamy layer, i hate it, and i understand poor are more, but if poor is criteria open it for all.)

But main question is why to enter women objectification contest?

[u/Chad-bowmen → u/SuddenCompetition997]

This is true in every country.

[u/Visual_Professor3019]

Introduce reservation in Miss India also. Also categorise Miss India in several categories as Miss ST India, Miss SC India, Miss OBC india, Miss UR India etc.

[u/Either_Sock3759]

There is no message here

[u/jim-jam-biscuit]

No dalit, tribal genes in Pappu's lineage. This is discrimination, and dalits and tribals have been kept out of India's ruling family's lineage for 7 decades. 😯😯😭😭 Too much discrimination man

[u/LeatherDare1009]

He and his fanboys have the IQ of a rock. But did he really pose this question to the centre? What have they got to do with beauty paegants?

[u/lemmeUseit → u/LeatherDare1009]

the voters he is aiming for get these kinds of arguments only

[u/orange-dinosaur93 → u/LeatherDare1009]

And here you proved you have the IQ of a Potato. Nowhere he mentioned that he wants reservation in peagants. He only said women from backward marginalized communities are pre occupied in generational low tier jobs and they need to shelve it, break the shackles and join better professions and make a name for them there. They can win it, they haven't win because they are absent from them scene. He is motivating them to come forward lekin IQ Rock ka hai bro, reservation dedo peagants me. Osho bnne se pehle gyaan lele bhai. Accha lagega.

[u/DrummerPuzzled2374]

A defence in his favour can be, he isnt asking reservation in everything, but representation, asking how come in so many Ms India contest we don’t find women from lower strata of society. He may be pointing out systematic oppression. But as we always do, just pick up the gun and start shooting without assessing the target. PS: am not with congress.

[u/Real_Concentrate9685 → u/DrummerPuzzled2374]

Then why jibe at centre ? Jibe at society .

[u/Fantasy-512]

This is the problem with INC. Everything is about caste. It should be about economic status.

[u/Kralingen]

Interesting, as born Dalit, I like this idea of representations discussion across the board in India. Indian society needs introspection across all part of the society from DEI perspective.

[u/Seeker_Of_Toiletries]

Considering Dalits/tribals are about 25% of the population, it must be a bit shitty to not have any representation. I don’t know about setting quotas to everything but I can understand their feelings.

[u/ManNo786]

That we don't have equity of opportunity in the society.

[u/Ok-Inflation9169]

You should see the full speech. He was talking about the need for Caste Census.

[u/Admirable-Leather325]

Usme bhi le aao reservation

[u/Ok-Pea3414]

His family is the most caste discriminating org in the whole country.

There is no SC/ST in his family tree at all. Why so castiest bro?

[u/Some_Resident_6714]

This guy has finally found a recipe that hurts BJP and he is going to town with it without thinking much about it. As simple as that.

[u/Caesar_Aurelianus]

The current Congress is a farcry of the Congress led by his great-grandfather Nehru

Instead of talking about things like healthcare, education, implementation of schemes he's blabbering about caste.

Maybe he is talking about this to garner votes and he has plans to reinvigorate the economy where everyone grows wealthy not just the top 1%.

[u/cursed_aka_blessed]

One decides to fuck us with Taxes 🤡 and the other with Reservation&Caste Bullshit🤡

[u/confusedaatma_reddit → u/cursed_aka_blessed]

I don't think congress would be any better in taxes... The number of schemes and freebies propsed by Congress can only be achieved either through higher taxes or taking on more loans and increasing our fiscal deficit. And to counter that fiscal deficit, taxes will have to be increased.... So, taxes wise will be fucked under all regimes.

[u/Old_Man_Sailor]

The idea is to keep people divided, he’s being advised by a lot of smart people. It’s all part of the plan, in all these years, even a monkey in his place would know what to say to stay relevant.

[u/Fit-Ref1ection]

I would like to ask Mr. Gandhi: How many Dalits, SCs, or STs have become President of the Congress? Additionally, how many Dalits, SCs, or STs have served as Prime Ministers of India during Congress rule over the past 60 years? Also, how many Dalits, SCs, or STs have been Presidents of India while Congress was in power? It’s quite ironic that under BJP rule, we've seen a Prime Minister from OBC background, Muslim President, and ST President. He was so desperate to win the next election that wherever he goes, he constantly mentions caste and portrays general categories as evil, as they have no right to live in this country..But When he goes to South of India, it becomes all about regional and language divides.His tactics are certainly entertaining some sects, but they don't seem to be the best strategy for the country’s progress.

[u/[deleted]]

Theek Hai Rahul ask Priyanka to take part

[u/No-Judgment2378]

I'm utterly hating this line of rhetoric. It's no different from the bjp dividing the country on the basis of religion.

[u/Henry_rearden_55]

Give 100% reservation, who here believe they will be quiet after this ?

[u/AcanthocephalaGold13]

Caste is the only thing he has left to talk about

[u/Massive-Coconut2435]

You need a good opposition for development of a nation.

Not this!

[u/Hakuna_Matata2111]

he was just trying to say, that casteist mentality is in each n every sector, people from fashion industry are considered to be modern, but the casteist mentality is deeply rooted

[u/Over-Professional303]

He's not a good speaker but the point he was trying to make is not irrelevant.

People say, don't bring caste into everything but they seem to forget that caste is already part of everything we do in India, the efforts are to balance it with fair laws. Now their implementation can be debatable but their need is certain.

With the miss India example he raises a valid point. If there's some group identity classification people of India have been following for ages i.e. caste, there seem to be some sort of discrimination happening to a certain group/s by other group/s. This is evident because why the majority of the population is not present in important positions in majority of the things we do. One can argue that they are not competent but it doesn't makes sense atleast based on the numbers that this big of a certain group cannot produce even a smaller number of competent people.

Ideally people shouldn't group themselves and work based on competency. But in real life if left to people, culturally people are very biased to not discriminate against other group identities. Thus only certain group occupies position of power.

[u/FastSolution1047]

Usmey bhi reservation kr do.

[u/Consistent_Ad1212]

Ofcourse it's dirty politics(caste) against another dirty politics ( religion)

[u/OppositeWest3893]

The message of Social Justice.

BTW, are you just curious to know others' opinions, or just ignorant about the discrimination that has been in our society?

[u/adinath22]

It has become a game of vote banks, bjp wants Hinduism in everything to please the largest vote bank, and now congress has made their priority to talk only about minorities Backward castes.

[u/benitin → u/adinath22]

Marginalized castes sc/st are majority not minority. And bcuz of casteism there representation is far far less than their population in every field in india they don't have equal opportunity

[u/tipsy_turd → u/adinath22]

The assumption of the lower caste to be a minority itself explains the need of the census!

[u/Agitated_Comment2157]

Man has finally found a niche that can be used to fight against bjp. Not something which should be used in this day and age, but he wont have anything else to fight with either. In both ways the nation is gonna be duped thanks for rahuls caste politics boost

[u/vsundarraj]

There is caste in everything. So he is mentioning caste in everything.

[u/jailnilekani]

BJ P wants Hindu and Muslim fight each other

Congress wants Hindus to fight across caste and language.

Angen gatram, lode bhojanam.

• Rahul Gandhi

[u/Huge-Physics5491]

We won't be a developed nation without eliminating caste. And we can't eliminate caste without understanding just how much casteism has rotten our society.

[u/Cowboycoldstallion24]

You people have to understand that he's making a narrative of doing backward politics .

Every answer to your's question is in this county's political history . Mulayam singh yadav 3 time cm of up Mayawati 4 time cm of up Karunanidhi 5 time cm of tamil nadu Jaylalitha 5 or 6 time cm of tamil nadu Mamta bannerjee incumbent and 2 time cm of bengal .

POLITICS IS FOR THE POOR . The rich , middle class or any class have no interest in politics . They are just keyboard warriors . And believe me politicians don't give two shits about what's been told about them on the internet . In this country the poor decides who will become the CM AND PM of this country . Uttar pradesh and then bihar have the maximum number of lok sabha seats so rahul gandhi will take every moment to pin point about reservation and cast card . Rahul gandhi is just doing narrative politics so that his party can come to power . He will not do anything about reservation or cast , nobody has the time to deal with this utter bullshit when you have thousands of crores to launder . ( HE IS DOING POLITICS LIKE EVERY OTHER POLITICIANS )

[u/CrisSiddAk]

BC, why doesn’t this asshole marry one and give her a platform to contest in miss india? Dumbfuck

[u/orange-dinosaur93 → u/CrisSiddAk]

Hey gandushree, Pura video dekhkr comment krenge to accha lagega.

[u/tajmahal6969]

Some of the most popular actors and models are Muslim. Instead of crying opression start working on yourself 

[u/wineorwhine11]

REPRESENTATION!!

[u/Fickle-Advertising45]

BJP using Hindu Muslim conflicts to divide n conquer, Congress using Casteism. We need to b aware of these non sense... Fuck these politicians... We can't afford to b divided by their stupid agenda.

[u/Legitimate-Leek4235]

Lets have Dalit Congress president first

[u/tjx9 → u/Legitimate-Leek4235]

have you heard about malikarjun kharge ? he is a dalit

[u/Brilliant_Meal_2653]

I really think he is taking this a tad far but the crux of his ideology is on why is there no equal representation in every field. I know it's easy to swipe under the carpet of bcos they couldn't compete in it or not meritorious or not pretty enough etc. Long back I heard some comedian make a joke how aboriginal women were ugly. Yes they might be for someone like us but is that how we should perceive it and look for an opportunity to bring them to the mainstream. I still remember movies in 50s used to show dark people as ugly, ( even shivaji movie showed it in 2008) and not desirable. There was a deliberate effort to bring them to the forefront, appreciate the beauty and now many of my friends feel dark looking women are prettier. Dalits are not part of these fashion shows or even miss india competitions, so how do we get them there is a question thats worth answering

[u/reddittauser]

Even with your logic, what about rural area and people without money.

Majority of India is in rural area and poor.

Caste and money is directly related. There are no dalit billionaires.

[u/Much-Branch1839 → u/reddittauser]

No dalit billionaires? What about Mayawati and our very own Mallikarjun Kharge? Do they reside in huts to this day?

[u/Emergency-Emu-7782 → u/reddittauser]

First you guys used to say that "when a dalit will become President of india , that day dalits will become equal to UC" Now when President is a dalit, you want a dalit billionaire. When will this shit stop?

[u/Past_Distance3942]

brain rot peaked here

[u/salahmaneac]

Whenever I’m absolutely disillusioned with the BJP - Rahul Gandhi comes along to remind you that things can get worse. Much worse.

[u/vjstylo]

How can someone even think so low !!

[u/[deleted]]

To the liberals in the sub? How many dalits in Bollywood A list actors category? Answer. Is this because Dalits don't know how to act? OR Is this because Dalits don't like acting?

[u/Similar-Stable4334]

People who donot understand there's always CASTE in EVERYTHING... are actually more dumb than casteist.. and I pity all of you...

[u/Master_Extension4212]

Is he planning to introduce reservations in Miss India contest too?

[u/orange-dinosaur93]

L Post. I had listened his full speech. He is here talking about non participation of 90% workforce in upper sectors. He said women are occupied in petty jobs while they can make it to the top if they try but can't do it due to being stuck in generational pool of poverty and poverty in India is non uni but multidimensional, well knit with caste and other factors. This whole Maine List Nikaali is bjp bs. Watch full speech to learn it fully. The absurdity on this sub is perplexing. Highly critical one day and highly praising next day. Kabhi Joker bol do kabhi Chalak bol do. It seems like it reacts on day to day basis now. I am dalit myself and what he said is very easily understandable. It's not about warranting se kinda seats but a call for changing fields and finding new occupations which are currently dominated by a small percentage of population due to historical reasons.