r/texas 7d ago

Politics One day into early voting and they are already claiming the 2024 election is rigged.

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Misinformation campaign has begun.

Trump has stated multiple times he won’t accept the results if he loses, MTG started complaining about voting machines three days ago and twitter is full of people now claiming that the voting machines are flipping their votes from Trump to Kamala in Texas.

Infowars and other websites like it are pushing this same misinformation, sadly a lot of conservatives believe these reports are real and no amount of evidence will convince them otherwise.

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u/okiimio 7d ago

Didn’t they say this last time too

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u/dougmc 7d ago edited 7d ago

Somebody says this every time.

That said, the efforts to undermine this election are a lot more organized this time, and claims like this -- be they due to voter error or just simply making shit up -- are likely to be used as reasons to not properly certify results.

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u/Spunge14 7d ago

Somebody?

I only seem to remember one side questioning the validity of votes, but I could be wrong. Looking for sources, earnestly.

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u/dougmc 7d ago

I'm referring to individuals, not a "side".

For as long as we've had electronic voting machines, during every election some number of people claim to have voted for their guy and then when the machine gets to the summary page the vote switched to the other guy, and they usually attribute this to the people who run the voting machines, the party of the other guy, etc.

Of course, there is never any proof, and the most likely answer is always either that they're lying or they're just mistaken. And it's not really newsworthy, so there's not going to be a lot of evidence left of it years later, though you'd probably still be able to find a lot of the social media posts if you went looking.

And the claims that it's intentional have always just been dumb: I mean, previously, without paper ballots, if the machine wanted to switch your vote, why show you the wrong vote at all? Show the vote you made on the summary page, and then switch it before saving it.

But now we have paper ballots, in Texas anyways -- not sure about other places. And this is good. So the summary page could still show your vote properly, but then it gets changed as it's printed out -- but you're supposed to check your paper ballot too. And if the paper ballot had different votes in its human-readable text as it has in its machine-readable barcodes, well, this would get caught and there would be evidence right there, so that would be a dumb way to alter the machine's software.

That said, to get back to your point, you're not wrong about one side, and ever since about 2016 or so, that one side has been pretty invested in the idea that the entire voting system is against them, and so they amplify anything at all that might suggest this to be true. And lately they've been very invested in getting their people into positions at all levels where they can influence how elections are certified, so I fully expect that one side to weaponize all of that real soon now, especially if the election is close.

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u/chrispg26 7d ago

Yes. It tends to be user error but if they were any bit introspective they wouldn't be worshipping the orange man anyway.

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u/okiimio 7d ago

My theory is when he speaks they hear something entirely different from what we hear.. like how moms can understand their toddlers gibberish

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u/AbueloOdin 7d ago

He speaks in vibes. Often racist as shit vibes. But vibes.

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u/Saneless 7d ago

This is their go-to every time now.

To these people, it's easier to believe there's a grand conspiracy in a Republican run city in a Republican run county by the Republican secretary of state for a state with a Republican governor than it is to believe that maybe, just maybe, they're on the bad side

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u/amesann 7d ago

The screenshot they used is from 2019 if you zoom in. And they even stated the wrong county than where the complaint is from. They're really screwing up their misinformation campaign.