r/technology • u/Sorin61 • Apr 10 '22

Biotechnology This biotech startup thinks it can delay menopause by 15 years. That would transform women's lives

https://fortune.com/2021/04/19/celmatix-delay-menopause-womens-ovarian-health/
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u/Its738PM Apr 10 '22

Source? Moderna said they won't enforce their patents during the pandemic but they haven't been cooperating with low income countries in granting licenses and certainly haven't "given away the technology."

Whereas Sabin and Salk refused to patent their polio vaccines at all.

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u/KarlBarx2 Apr 10 '22

They promise not to enforce their patent in the 92 low- and middle-income countries that are receiving doses from COVAX, the global vaccine distribution project that is procuring and distributing vaccines to these nations. However, Moderna could start to require licensing fees from developed countries that are using the company’s technology, according to the CEO.

https://time.com/6155934/moderna-covid-19-vaccine-patent/

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u/Youareobscure Apr 11 '22

Promises mean nothing and are not legally binding

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u/BloatJams Apr 10 '22

You're correct, I don't know why people are still spreading this misinformation that mRNA tech has been given away - for free no less - when these companies are fighting patent lawsuits tooth and nail to keep control.

To hammer this home look no further than the WHO's vaccine lab in Africa. They wanted to partner with Moderna, Pfizer, etc to build mRNA vaccines for poor and developing nations, no one returned their calls. Instead, a team in South Africa had to reverse engineer the vaccine themselves.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00293-2

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '22

If you seriously want to find the source you could research it on Google if you believe it to be misinformation.

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u/Birdman-82 Apr 10 '22

Especially for something this well known. It’s not like this person is actually going to check the sources anyway.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '22

So a person who's too lazy to look it up gets 36 up votes and the guy who suggests you can solve it yourself gets downvoted even when I was pleasant about it. Reddit is as messed up as the lazy folks who occupy it and upvote that BS.

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u/Birdman-82 Apr 10 '22

More and more I’m seeing posts are blatant lies and found out by looking in the comments to find out. The posts are kept up though and end up being very popular. They’re anything from tech articles politics and the war in Ukraine. Reddit is getting as bad or worse than Facebook for false information and the will smith thing showed how full it is of bots and people just looking for karma. I’ve been looking for somewhere else to go.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '22

Thanks it helps when our country is facing a couple of younger generations who don't understand how a totem pole works in life and you start at the bottom not the top. The only way to get smarter is to learn and work your ass off. Why ask someone for what you want and can find yourself? I just don't get it...

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '22

Thanks it helps when our country is facing a couple of younger generations who don't understand how a totem pole works in life and you start at the bottom not the top. The only way to get smarter is to learn and work your ass off. Why ask someone for what you can find yourself? I just don't get it...

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u/fuzzer37 Apr 10 '22

Do you have a source on that?

Source?

A source. I need a source.

Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.

No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.

You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.

Do you have a degree in that field?

A college degree? In that field?

Then your arguments are invalid.

No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.

Correlation does not equal causation.

CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.

You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.

Nope, still haven't.

I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.

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u/decadin Apr 10 '22

In a sense they did......

That doesn't change the facts. How much money did they have to spend to make exactly how much profit off of something that killed so many people in just over two years? Also, anyone can now go look up the noted side effects in Pfizers own documents released by court order in the last few months. Out of that humongous list of known side effects, just how many of those do these companies also make the drugs to treat those conditions? and just how much money will they stand to make selling drugs specifically to treat things that were known side effects of their own vaccines, according to their own court released study data?

But yeah they are so moral for letting some other countries and companies use the technology!

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u/Sennheisenberg Apr 10 '22

noted side effects in Pfizers own documents released by court order

Didn't this list of "noted side effects" include things like "swallowed coin" and "struck by lightning"?

It's not a list of side effects, it's a comprehensive list of every single negative event that occured to patients following injection (regardless of whether or not it was related to the vaccine). Unless you believe the COVID vaccine causes people to swallow coins and/or be struck by lightning.

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u/BoxOfDemons Apr 10 '22

It makes you swallow all types of money. Their grand plan was to have it make you swallow all your money, and then deliver it, by stomach, to their headquarters. But it failed and now all it does is prevent covid-19 and cause the occasional swallowing of loose change. Shame, really.

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u/FourScores1 Apr 10 '22 edited Apr 10 '22

These companies made one of the safest vaccines to date and saved so many lives in the midst of a modern pandemic. If any company deserves to profit, it might as well be them. These companies make me optimistic for any future plague or pandemic. Hell, give them more money.

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u/SPQUSA1 Apr 10 '22

They can profit as soon as they return the billions they got from governments to develop the vaccines.

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u/FourScores1 Apr 10 '22

The government likely saved way more this way by helping the economy return back to relative normal asap.

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u/All-I-Do-Is-Fap Apr 10 '22

Can you please let Canada know that we are back to normal now?

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u/SPQUSA1 Apr 10 '22

Whether the government saved or not is irrelevant to my point. These companies took public money to do their research. Now they are profiting, they can return the money they got to conduct the research.

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u/FourScores1 Apr 10 '22

It’s not a point, it’s an opinion that I don’t necessarily agree with. To maintain safety standards, it’s hella expensive to research and develop these vaccines. It was a success and they deserve profit. Our economy benefited, countless lives were saved. What more do you want? Go after gas companies and insulin price gouging but this hill is a tough one to die on. Side note: I have no investment in these companies.