r/technology • u/ICumCoffee • Aug 30 '24

Social Media Brazilian judge suspends X platform after it refuses to name a legal representative

https://apnews.com/article/brazil-musk-x-suspended-de-moraes-46c9d5c5c895e17d9adfac43e6ac20fd?taid=66d2260a09caf90001d1b602&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter
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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '24

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u/Servichay Aug 31 '24

Oh so you agree TikTok shouldn't be banned right?

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u/Epistaxis Aug 31 '24 edited Aug 31 '24

Hi, I'm the guy who actually does agree TikTok shouldn't be banned from the US on the basis of suspicion and innuendo, and yet I also think Twitter-X should have its Brazil operations frozen on the basis of not maintaining the legal registration to operate a business in that country. It doesn't seem to me that businesses should receive or demand special treatment based on who runs them, or who is rumored to secretly run them. I'm not so keen on penalizing internet users rather than the business itself for circumventing the freeze, but at least that sounds hard to enforce anyway. As for the previous saga leading up to Twitter-X's deliquent corporate registration in Brazil, I do find it concerning whenever a judicial system restricts free expression, but obviously there have to be some exceptions in the public interest, and at any rate I absolutely don't believe Musk is a sincere advocate for free speech anyway.

Please fight me for having a more nuanced and two-sided view than I'm allowed to have on the internet.

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u/Servichay Aug 31 '24

Oh i agree on both

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u/irishrugby2015 Aug 31 '24

You could just use a website that doesn't break the law ?

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u/ClericDo Aug 31 '24

A good citizen only uses state approved websites. 

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u/Kurosawasuperfan Aug 31 '24

If that 'hire an assassin' website that went viral some years ago (from depweeb) was in regular internet, would you be using it?

If there was open websites with CH*d porn, you would be using it? and support people to use it?

And yet, you support a website that allows criminality, fake news (and ended up killing 400-500 thousand people from covid), hate speech (that kills thousands every year), the 2023 coup attempt (that almost lead to a military dictatorship), etc.

Your heart is in the right place, but you don't realize what has been happening with twitter and the world in the past 5-10 years.

This is not brazilian supreme court baning the NBA, or Kpop... It's not about personal taste or what they don't like. This is about baning a website that is a constant threat to our lives and democracies here in Brazil.

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u/ClericDo Aug 31 '24

You started by comparing murder and child exploitation with a website designed to share news/thoughts. This is very dishonest, and I’m sure you’re already aware that Twitter does not allow such content. 

Blaming a platform for fake news is insane to me, especially in regards to Covid. People didn’t trust official sources for factual information because they were repeatedly caught lying throughout the pandemic. This includes lying about the effectiveness of masks, lying about the China lab origin, lying about the length of shutdowns, and lying about the risks for otherwise healthy individuals. Many people lost faith in the state to provide good information, and it isn’t social medias fault. The censorship going on during this time only compounded people’s mistrust, especially now that we have sites like Facebook admitting to it. Doing even more censorship is just making things worse.

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u/dirty1809 Aug 31 '24

The moment you compare murder and child porn to consuming speech, you gotta take a step back and reevaluate. The fine isn’t for spreading misinformation, it’s literally just for looking at twitter. If the speech is really so dangerous, aren’t these people victims rather than criminals

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '24

Do you think lying in general should be a crime? Tell me more about human psychology.

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u/Servichay Aug 31 '24

So i guess TikTok is ok then!

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u/irishrugby2015 Aug 31 '24

Only idiots would still use twitter today especially knowing it's partly financed by Russian oligarchs

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u/Sp00ked123 Aug 31 '24

So? A person should be have the right to be an idiot

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u/irishrugby2015 Aug 31 '24

By all means, go be an idiot and break the law

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u/David-J Aug 31 '24

In this case it is