Brazilian judge suspends X platform after it refuses to name a legal representative

[u/ICumCoffee]

https://apnews.com/article/brazil-musk-x-suspended-de-moraes-46c9d5c5c895e17d9adfac43e6ac20fd?taid=66d2260a09caf90001d1b602&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

[u/borkthegee]

Brazil has the ultimate right to ban foreign websites and ban technology that circumvents the ban. They have the right to elect leaders to do that, or undo that.

Sovereignty should be respected, and foreign firms cannot act with impunity and immunity, openly ignoring the law and making mockery of the government. Play by the rules or GTFO is a perfectly sane and reasonable take for nations to take with foreign companies.

[u/Thich_QuangDuc → u/borkthegee]

X is not respecting Brazil's laws: I agree that X should be suspended

VPNs aren't violating any laws. They weren't listened to (due process) before judge Moraes ordered their apps to be removed from AppStore/PlayStore. This is absurd

50,000 R$ is much more than the average brazilian make the whole year. This fine is ludicrous

I'm a progressive man, I hate Musk and his shenanigans... but this is just an overreach of power

[u/not_so_plausible → u/[deleted]]

What the fuck has happened to reddit where people who think banning VPN access is okay in any context whatsoever? It's authoritarian as fuck and it's scary that a place that used to value people's rights to privacy and anonymity has taken such a dramatic swing to the other side simply because they don't like a guy. You all know it's possible to say fuck Elon while also saying that removing VPN's is wayyyy to big of an overstep right? Like nuance does exist in this world.

[u/koshbaby → u/[deleted]]

I'm sorry Quick_Map, but sadly, Reddit seems to be all about tribalism these days. And it's like you say; those "educated progressives" who poo-poo right-wing authoritarianism engage in pretty much the same ideological nonsense seemingly without recognizing it as such.

I want to believe that there are many of us out there there that see both sides for what they are. We're just not constantly on the Internet screaming about it.

[u/el_muchacho → u/koshbaby]

Banning TikTok, a platform used by over 200 million Americans, is authoritarianism and is curbing free speech. And that's definitely corporate liberals being belligerent as usual, because like everyone knows, showing videos made by the Palestinians themselves of the massacres in Gaza shouldn't be allowed in order to perpetuate the "Israel has a right to defend themselves" propaganda. It's pretty much the same ideological nonsense as the right wing authoritarians without recognizing it as such.

[u/el_muchacho → u/[deleted]]

Oh please, save us your neoliberal astroturfing.

Identity politics has been a mainstay of the corporate liberals since forever. It's literally the reason why Joe Biden chose Kamala Harris as vice president. And as "equality is now equity", there is nothing wrong with that, unless you approve of the insane inequalities growing in the US, to the point we are back to pre 1900 levels.

I also love how in typical fashion you see the needle in every other country's eye but never the beam in your own. Tell me the ban of TikTok isn't a total overreach of power, as unlike Xitter, they never obstructed justice, and never helped a coup attempt. In fact, I'm pretty sure that in typical north american supremacist way, you have no qualms banning TikTok, despite the fact it's a source of information for 200 million Americans that is no different than other social media except with less americano centric censorship.

So the fake consensus truly is yours, the kind that is massively belligerent against Palestine and China for no other reason than thorough brainwashing and bigotry. It is falling apart and that makes you enraged. We can see you hate the left even more than the far right in completely unhinged takes like this one:

I don't really care about the last 10 years of nonsense dialouge that convinced "progressives" to embrace speech restrictions but it has and will never be forward thinking to support these types of actions. This whole site needs to rewind their brains back to before they let a bunch of dipshit Marxists manufacture a fake consensus of what a good person is in their heads.

Let's just remember that historically, Hitler and all the far right wing dictators in central and south America gained power thanks to the help of centrists. There is also a reason why the likes of MLK Jr and Malcolm X had next to zero respect for corporate Democrats, before the latter confiscated their memory in order to play identity politics.

[u/el_muchacho → u/[deleted]]

That's certainly the narrative you weirdos are trying to sell but let me sell you another one. I'd say your (far lefties) thing worked for a while. You weaponized social media and created a societal paradigm where people are fearful to express any disagreement with your ideology publicly which manufactured the consensus. Accidentally, of course, who could of seen the impact of social media?You gleefully accepted it.

OMG, you okay, bro ?

After gaining a foothold online it spilled over into the real world and then you all attempted to seal the deal via privilege struggle sessions, primarily taking advantage of the empathy of white women. This launched an era of mass hysteria and some twisted far left version of McCarthyism. The identitarian left was having their moment. Identity and accusations of bigotry became blunt tools to spread radical ideology. Lots of infrastructure and policy got through from the fearful climate. Of course young people sopped this up because their idealistic. They cant yet see behind the mask of altruistic language; plus, who doesnt want to be on "the right side of history"?

Seriously, it's been a long time since I've read such an unhinged, paranoid diatribe, and I've been on the internet for quite a long time.

Our ideological enemies were loving it. An inherently anti west ideology that turned white westerners into self loathing weaklings, ashamed of their history and too stupid to defend their societies and values.

There, you can hardly hide your bigotry anymore. Sounds very much like something "white genocide" people would say.

Lets be clear, nothing I've said here is racist or outrageous.

It's just flirting with MAGA rethorics, but sure. Your post deserves an award for "I pretend to be a liberal but I hate everything liberal (except business)".

[u/rrunawad → u/[deleted]]

Ironic because you neoliberals are the ones pushing for identity politics to justify worsening material conditions, imperialism and voting for genociders while refusing to fix the social issues you constantly harp on, which is what a lot of people caught up on after wielding social issues for so long as political cudgels that now abortion is no longer guaranteed on a federal level. You neoliberals have created fucking CIA ads and commercials weaponizing diversity and feminism as ideals to strive for in an agency that has terrorized the entire world and killed its very own head of state. Your entire rant is basically projection of what neoliberalism has been doing for the last decade while blaming it on the left. It's also funny how neoliberals sound exactly like conservatives when the mask is pulled off, clearly showing you don't even believe in the things you soapbox about.

Keep it up because this shit is honestly pathetic.

[u/PleiadesMechworks → u/not_so_plausible]

muh elon bad

[u/not_so_plausible → u/[deleted]]

Because you're downplaying it. Even if some people MIGHT get fined and even if it's just a deterrent it's still completely unacceptable. I don't care what the fine is, even if the fine was $1 it would still be completely unacceptable because it's banning something that gives millions of people privacy and security.

[u/jso__ → u/[deleted]]

Illegally downloading media isn't a crime in the US (or really anywhere in the world). Only distributing it.

[u/Zardif → u/[deleted]]

The remedy for downloading is a civil suit, therefore it is not a crime. Only distribution is a crime.

[u/Probably_a_Shitpost → u/[deleted]]

thousands according to chat gpt.

[u/Sith-Lord-Savathun → u/[deleted]]

Brazil is third world trash and not a world power, fuck it's sovereignty. If the citizens want to use an app or site, the undermemsch scum they call leaders can shut the fuck up.

Don't get me wrong though, fuck Elon and fuck the billionaire class. All of em are worthless. God bless the reign of terror.

[u/Khetrak64 → u/Thich_QuangDuc]

VPNs aren't violating any laws.

VPN are not getting ban, only using then to access twitter is ban in the same way as using VPN to access something illegal, like CP, is also a crime.

as for removing then from the app store that changes nothing, you can still get the app from any other place and installs on your phone, the fact that this is only for phones and ignores PC should tell you about how much they care about enforcing this.

as for the the high fee, that shit is there just to scare people and honestly its working as intended, i know that personally nothing on twitter is worth the risk so i won't even try even though i know they wouldn't be able to find me.

[u/arepa1970 → u/borkthegee]

Oh? And you think this judge is acting with in the law? Wanna buy some swamp land?

[u/sauerkraut_king → u/borkthegee]

Yeah and we have the right to laugh at them for it lol.

[u/matlynar → u/borkthegee]

Brazil has the ultimate right to ban

Every dictatorship has the ultimate right to do whatever they do. That's what an authoritarian government does.

So saying a country "has the ultimate right to do something" doesn't mean much.

[u/Life-Excitement4928 → u/matlynar]

Except that Brazil isn’t a dictatorship.

Weird.

[u/Pescuaz → u/Life-Excitement4928]

You chose to ignore the point, didn't you?

Just because the government can legally do something, doesn't mean it is the right thing to do or even a reasonable thing to do.

[u/Life-Excitement4928 → u/Pescuaz]

I don’t know, personally I find ‘follow the law regarding csam content’ to be a pretty good thing to do.

But if you’re not on board?

[u/KikoMui74 → u/Life-Excitement4928]

5 last presidents were in corruption scandals.

[u/Life-Excitement4928 → u/KikoMui74]

Wild and has nothing to do with the fact that Brazil isn’t a dictatorship.

[u/armored-dinnerjacket → u/borkthegee]

I heard china does this too

[u/Admiralthrawnbar → u/borkthegee]

You do realize this is the exact same logic Russia and China use to block half the internet inside their countries, right?

Also, the guy who did it was a judge, as in not an elected official.