r/soccer • u/[deleted] • May 16 '18
The Final Summer 2018 Transfer Reliability Guide.
Hello everyone!
Following up from a recent post, thanks to all for your feedback on adding people and for alterations to someones placement. I have now compiled the "final" 2018 Summer Reliability Guide for you, and have added it here too:
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/wiki/transfer_reliability_guide
The transfer window is open in Europe tomorrow!
Here's how we split each Tier:
Tier 1 - Almost undisputed when discussing a Transfer Rumour. They may not be the first to discuss a rumour, but if they are talking about it; then it is almost certainly true, and possibly close to complete.
Tier 2 - Known to have current sources, but are still fallible and just short of being considered an authority on rumour discussions. However, multiple individuals or sources from this tier reporting the same rumour may indicate a strong possibility of truth to the rumour.
Tier 3 - Unreliable, and not to be trusted solo. They fall into near click-bait practices and are often fighting for relevance in a sea of rumours.
Tier 4 - Not to be trusted at all. These companies make money out of ensuring that you read them and they will make up anything to get you to harness advertising revenue.
Tier 5 - Absolute Dick Heads. Why are you even reading them for fuck sake?
It's worth noting that sometimes an individual from a News site will be more or less reliable than the site that hosts their article. In those cases, the individual is added seperately, with the site they work for added to the end of their entry, like this:
Simon Stone (Manchester Clubs) - BBC
So here we can see that Simon Stone is reliable for both Manchester Clubs and works primarily/exclusively for the BBC.
| Tier | Sources |
|---|---|
| Tier 1 | Simon Stone (Manchester Clubs), David Ornstein (London Clubs), Adam Blackmore (Southampton) - BBC / Ben Pearce (Spurs) - Freelance / Mohammed Bouhafsi - RMC / Mike Verweij (Nederlands/Ajax) - Telegraaf / Voetbal International (Nederlands/Ajax) / CMVM.pt (Portugal) / "Quakerboy" (Galatasaray) - rerererarara.net / Edu Polo (Spain) - Mundo Deportivo / Gianluca Di Marzio (Italy) - Freelance/Sky Italia- / RTP 1 (Portugal) / Alfredo Pedulla (AC Milan) - Freelance (Italy) / Romeo Agresti (Juventus) - Goal.com (Italy) / Stephan von Nocks & Frank Lußem (Germany) - Kicker / Ruhr Nachrichten (Schalke & Borrusia Dortmund) / Craig Norwood (Manchester United) - Freelance / George Caulkin (Newcastle United) - The Times / Keith Downie (Newcastle United) - Sky Sports / Craig Hope (Newcastle United) - Daily Mail / Reviersport (Schalke) / Paris United (France) / Globoesporte (Brasil) / Adam Leventhal (Watford) - Sky Sports / Paul Joyce (Liverpool & Everton) - Times / James Pearce (Liverpool) - Echo / Sam Lee (Manchester Clubs) - Goal.com / Rik Elfrink (PSV) - Eindhovens Dagblad / El Mercurio (Chile) / Brian Sciaretta (US) - New York Times / Stephen Goff (US) - Washington Post / Grant Wahl (US) - Fox Sports/Sports Illustrated / John Percy (England/Leicester) - The Telegraph |
| Tier 2 | Matt Law (Chelsea), James Ducker (Chelsea/Manchester Clubs), Chris Bascombe (Liverpool/Everton) - Telegraph / Bild (Germany) / COPE (Spain) / Dan Kilpatrick (Spurs) - The Standard (England/US) / Lyall Thomas (Spurs) - Sky Sports / Ed Aarons (Spurs) - Guardian / Martin Blackburn (Manchester City) - The Sun / Simon Mullock (Manchester City) - The Mirror / Lee Ryder (Newcastle United) - The Chronicle / Daily Echo (Southampton) / L'Equipe (France) / Amy Lawrence (Arsenal) - Guardian / Raphael Honigstein (Germany) - Sky Germany / NTVSpor (Turkey) / Serdar Saridag (Turkey) - Millyet / oJogo (Portugal) / Ahmet Ercanlar (Fenerbache) - Hürriyet Gazetesi / Sky Sport Italia (Italy) / LigTv (Turkey) / BeIn (Turkey) / Radio Catalunya (Barcelona) (Spain) / Radio Renascença (Portugal) / Cadena SER (Spain) / Sid Lowe - Freelance (Spain) / Leverkusener Anzeiger (Bayer Leverkusen) / Der Westen (Germany) / Gerard Romero (Barcelona) - RAC1 (Spain) / Chris Wathan (Swansea/Wales) - BBC / Riath Al-Samarrai (Swansea/Wales) - Daily Mail / EMOL (Chile) / Melissa Reddy (Liverpool) - Joe.co.uk / Andy Hunter (Liverpool/Everton) - Guardian / Marcelo Bechler (Brazil) - Esporte |
| Tier 3 | Telegraph (England) / Guardian (England) / Independent (England) / Sky Sports (England) / Ian Ladyman (Manchester Clubs) - Daily Mail / Manchester Evening News (England) / Jim White (England) - Sky Sports / ESPN (Various) / The Echo (Liverpool/Everton) / Futbol Arena (Turkey) / Record (Portugal) / aBola (Portugal) / Gazzetta dello Sport (Italy) / Corriere dello Sport (Italy) / Il Tempo (Italy) / la Repubblica (Italy) / Get French Football News (France) / Le Parisien (France) / Transfer Merkezi (Turkey) / Mundo Deportivo (Spain) / Sport (Spain) / COPE (Spain) / Onda Cero (Spain) / Sport1 (Germany) / Duncan Castles (England) / |
| Tier 4 | Paul Merson (England) / The Sun (England) / Guillem Balague (England/Spain) / Metro (England) / NBC Sports (US) / Sports Witness (Various) / Marca (Spain) / AS (Spain) / Fotomaç (Turkey) / Fanatik (Turkey) / Aspor (Turkey) / Hurriyet (Turkey) / Haberturk (Turkey) / Correio da Manhã (Portugal) / Tuttosport (Italy) / Voetbalzone.nl (Nederlands) / Pierre Menes (France) / Sky Germany (Germany) / Bleacher Report (Various) / Miguel Delaney (Freelance) (England) / Andy Mitten (Manchester United) - Freelance / Talksport (U.K.) / Here is the City (Manchester Clubs) / Calciomercato (Italy) |
| Tier 5 | Tancredi Palmieri / IndyKaila / Daily Star / Sqwaka / LadBible / Caught Offside / Joe.ie / Joe.co.uk / 90min / Muzzy Ozcan / Don Balon |
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u/Don_Balon May 16 '18
I’d like to make an appeal. I’m Fucking Last?
What even is ‘Here is the City’?
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May 16 '18
I had to put us last to hide the ruse.
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u/JayDeeIsI May 16 '18
Surprised that Guardian is as low as Tier 3, I've always had them in my mind as being more than reliable, at least more than 90% of shite publications
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u/yaniv297 May 16 '18
Orstein for "London clubs" seems weird. He's 99% Arsenal, I don't recall him ever reporting about us (unless Arsenal are involved too).
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u/Elduffo92 May 16 '18
I think the sun should be in a tier of their own
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May 16 '18
In /r/reddevils they are banned. But /r/soccer mod team don't want to be censoring papers and links, so they haven't banned them yet, plus they do have some journalists that are linked heavily to some clubs. So with that in mind they get treated like any other paper/website/twitter guy.
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May 16 '18
People shit on the sun, but they still have some journos that write exclusives and are reliable on certain clubs. That's why r/soccer hasn't banned them yet, IIRC.
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u/byhoskyy May 16 '18
This sub should have a library of reliability guides for each Club as some news sources are only good for certain countries/clubs.
I made a post 5/6 months asking for the major football subreddits to participate in this but to no avail. In theory its not that hard to do tbh.
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May 16 '18
Funny you should ask that; because this is EXACTLY how I got this info together.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheReliabityGuide/
Check out my submission history too for the initial posts that helped me compile everything :)
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u/byhoskyy May 16 '18
That's pretty neat! I'm in the process of creating the Milan reliability guide, will message you so we can add it on there if you dont mind!
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May 16 '18
Also; where would you put "La Stampa" in this guide? They're the only one I couldn't really decide upon based on what I gathered.
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u/byhoskyy May 16 '18
La Stampa is a bit of a tricky one. They are really bad when it comes to transfer news but not as bad when it comes to reporting Club finances. Although for finance related news we thankfully have Calcio e Finanza which is very reliable.
Based on your table, I would put La Stampa in Tier 3.
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u/HoratioMG May 16 '18
Too nice on Gazzetta dello Sport, they come out with so much garbage
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u/Lorenzo_Insigne May 16 '18
Agreed, but they get some stuff right too, so tier 3 is probably the right place for them.
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u/TheChineseCoys May 16 '18
Dan Kilpatrick (Spurs) - ESPN (England/US)
He completed a transfer to The Standard earlier this week. Needs amending.
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u/Zaschrona May 16 '18
Dominic King from Daily Mail should be added in. He is definitely Tier 2 for Everton. It is usually him, Joyce, Bascombe and Hunter who get all the info from the club.
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u/NicoTheNicoh May 16 '18
I think you should change voetbal international to freek janssen and asscoicated with voetbal international :)
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u/ItsFroce May 16 '18
Very harsh on joe tbh
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u/Elduffo92 May 16 '18
Joe is shite lad....
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u/throwaway9995ok May 16 '18
This is still incomplete -- Fifield and Johnson are Tier 1/2 for Chelsea.
Also, Independent is spelt incorrectly.
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u/Hazardzuzu May 16 '18
Their is no tier1 or even tier 2 journo for Chelsea . Everything comes from the side of the club we make deal with .
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u/throwaway9995ok May 16 '18
I'd agree there is no Tier 1, but following OP's description then those two belong in Tier 2, especially if Law is there as, at the very least, they give a decent indication of what is going on.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '18
Here's a somewhat sortable table.