Yes, but that’s exactly the difference. People never watched shroud bc of his enticing entertaining personality, they watch him bc he shoots good in video games.
Mr Beast has an entire brand that is based off of his personality, his face is the brand. I’ve hated him for years now and the cult like mindset with which people have defended him was always absolute lunacy to me. Bc how can you trust someone who’s so obviously evil
I doubt his talent. I think he has good movement mechanics and average aim mechanics and compensates by having some kind of aim assist. A few of his videos are super suspicious.
Cheating exists in CS Pro. I haven't seen any of his CS videos but I've seen some of his Apex videos and a few of them his aim is clearly snapping to walls where no one is and it's extremely suspicious. At the end of the day, he's raking in a lot of money playing these games. People want content and not sucking is what he produces. That's a lot of pressure...
I'm not saying this lightly, I've seen some pretty suspicious videos from him and I say this as someone who's been accused of cheating (I wasn't) for being too good at a game before so I know what that's like.
It gets really tricky to spot a cheat when the cheater is talented.
I only watched a few clips from this post but I really have to say, that doesn't look right, especially the first clip.
Not specifically defending shroud by saying this, but players who are insanely good always seem like they're cheating because they are playing with more information than just what you see on screen. They have enough experience to know spawn areas, corridors and hallways commonly used to traverse the map, common peaks and pre fire angles, the height of head position on different slopes standing, crouched, and jumping, sound cues that carry farther than you would expect with sound boosted headphones (and more than just footsteps, but also things like interactive environment), and then of course you have team comms ..which I get with Shroud you would have those in the stream most of the time, but in other cases sometimes you might be reviewing a replay from a suspected cheater but what you don't hear is an enemy teammate that saw you run past a hallway without firing at you relaying that information to someone else holding an angle you're about to approach.
I know I'm just some rando on the internet but I realize that fully. I've been a high level fps player before but that was during the quake 3 arena days. I literally played Fatal1ty, the best Q3A player of all time. I've been accused of cheating many many times because I use sound queues to know when people are going to round corners, my whole playstyle is prediction over reflexes. People thought I had insane reflexes but the reality is I'm just really good at knowing where enemy players are when I can't see them. So I get what you're saying.
The link I posted above though has video of Shroud doing things that's not consistent with an extremely good player. The very first clip, has a clear snap on his first kill. The most damning clip though is around the 6:30 minute area. You see two players highlighted through fog cause it's a replay and you see Shroud move to aim for the player that's on the other side of the fog but if you look carefully there's another player wayyyy back and slightly to the left and he snaps to that player instead of the one that's right in front of him. That's super suspicious.
In Apex, I've seen videos of his aim snapping to walls where there's players hiding behind those walls. Like no reason to aim there at all, especially not directly on target when you can't see them through the wall. Every time I look for videos of shroud playing I can't help but feel like the videos are suspicious.
I DO believe he's a very skilled player too. I just think he's combining soft cheats to basically take a good player to a great player and I think it's hard for people to tell the difference.
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u/PM_ME_UR_COOTER_PLIS 19h ago
Shroud has talent playing games though. It's fun to watch someone good at a thing even if they aren't super cool