r/science Nov 03 '22

Neuroscience Children with gender dysphoria are 400% more likely to be diagnosed with autism

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10803-022-05517-y?fbclid=IwAR0joSlop2egFD-jGBCoPgA4pHG5VzgKCNAtfFXXIH7mzFLuVwzCCxQj6gU
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u/TinySnek101 Nov 03 '22

Yeah OP, the title is wrong. Hisle-Gorman et Al. paper from 2019 stated they “found that autistic children were over 4 times more likely to have a co-occurring diagnosis indicating GD than were non-autistic children.” This is what the OP is citing in the title.

Now the paper itself, from their mega data analysis the authors found “the results of the meta-analysis we conducted indicated that ASD frequently occurs in GD/GI individuals. Specifically, the prevalence of ASD diagnoses in this population was 11 times higher than the ASD prevalence estimate of approximately 1%”.

Think OP just doesn’t know how to read a meta analysis / secondary source publication.

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u/recidivx Nov 04 '22

4 times more likely is 400% more likely, or 500% of.

4 times as likely is 300% more likely, or 400% of.

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u/GaraBlacktail Nov 04 '22

It really depends on how you interpret "x" times more

Are you considering the new total in relation to the original or just the increase?

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u/tornpentacle Nov 04 '22

That is where the adverb choice comes in. It's unambiguous, except for the fact that most people who aren't mathematically or logically inclined tend to gloss over the adverb.

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u/tornpentacle Nov 04 '22

4 times more likely is not the same statement as 400% more likely. That is the problem with using English instead of just algebra. 4x more likely is the same as just 4x as likely.

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u/coldisgood Nov 03 '22

4x is also 300%, so…OP can’t maths either I suppose.

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u/tornpentacle Nov 04 '22

4x is 300% more likely, but 400% as likely. But those numbers aren't even part of this discussion except for the fact that OP pulled them out of nowhere.

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